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So after a 3 week delay getting my license after it originally went active; I got to have my first experience carrying yesterday. Went to the Horseshoe in Hammond, IN. Took a Smith and Wesson Model 60 and kept it in the inner breast pocket of my pea coat until I parked in the casino parking garage. On the way there, stopped at a local convenience store for a lottery ticket (store wasn't posted). Looked down a couple times and from my view didn't appear to print. Once I parked, took it out of my pocket and stored it in a storage compartment below the Stereo and climate control buttons. Once I got back in, put it back in my coat pocket and drove home, but not before stopping for gas.

 

No blood was spilled in the streets. It didn't jump out of my pocket and start randomly shooting people, nor did it tell me to do anything evil. But I will say, I did like the feeling of security I had knowing it was there.

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I went active Monday 3/10/14 in the AM and lic was in mail box PM of Wednesday 3/12. Have been carring every day since, watching and learning how to move through my day without

coming in conflict with GFZ's. So far 98% of the places I frequent are good to carry. My hospital has NO GUNS ON THEIR PROPERTY signs on the doors to the main building but not

at the entrance to the parking lots and not on the outer doctor buildings. Left gun in glove box but not exactly sure if I need to leave it in trunk or at home next time.

Deep in the learning curve at the moment.

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First carry was while walking dog around neighborhood. I have been carrying around the house because I could and to experiment and get used to it. Not having to disarm for the first time in many years when I went out the door and down the street with my dog was quite a thrill! Easy way to start out. No GFZs on public sidewalks and streets where I live. No parks or schools nearby. Little by little I have been expanding my carry arenas. I have yet to run into a no guns sign where I live in west central Illinois. However, I do have a good grasp of mandatory GFZs so avoid them or just know I can't carry in them if I go to one. Taking it easy starting out in this new adventure!

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So after a 3 week delay getting my license after it originally went active; I got to have my first experience carrying yesterday. Went to the Horseshoe in Hammond, IN. Took a Smith and Wesson Model 60 and kept it in the inner breast pocket of my pea coat until I parked in the casino parking garage. On the way there, stopped at a local convenience store for a lottery ticket (store wasn't posted). Looked down a couple times and from my view didn't appear to print. Once I parked, took it out of my pocket and stored it in a storage compartment below the Stereo and climate control buttons. Once I got back in, put it back in my coat pocket and drove home, but not before stopping for gas.

 

No blood was spilled in the streets. It didn't jump out of my pocket and start randomly shooting people, nor did it tell me to do anything evil. But I will say, I did like the feeling of security I had knowing it was there.

What? You didn't go to Jewel??? :P

 

I just avoid Chicago when possible. However, UIC won't let me do my courses online. :P

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So after a 3 week delay getting my license after it originally went active; I got to have my first experience carrying yesterday. Went to the Horseshoe in Hammond, IN. Took a Smith and Wesson Model 60 and kept it in the inner breast pocket of my pea coat until I parked in the casino parking garage. On the way there, stopped at a local convenience store for a lottery ticket (store wasn't posted). Looked down a couple times and from my view didn't appear to print. Once I parked, took it out of my pocket and stored it in a storage compartment below the Stereo and climate control buttons. Once I got back in, put it back in my coat pocket and drove home, but not before stopping for gas.

 

No blood was spilled in the streets. It didn't jump out of my pocket and start randomly shooting people, nor did it tell me to do anything evil. But I will say, I did like the feeling of security I had knowing it was there.

 

I mainly wanted the CCW for trips to places where there aren't a lot of people and especially LE around. So far, I have only been able to keep it on private property. That feeling of security having the gun on your hip is very reassuring.

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So after a 3 week delay getting my license after it originally went active; I got to have my first experience carrying yesterday. Went to the Horseshoe in Hammond, IN. Took a Smith and Wesson Model 60 and kept it in the inner breast pocket of my pea coat until I parked in the casino parking garage. On the way there, stopped at a local convenience store for a lottery ticket (store wasn't posted). Looked down a couple times and from my view didn't appear to print. Once I parked, took it out of my pocket and stored it in a storage compartment below the Stereo and climate control buttons. Once I got back in, put it back in my coat pocket and drove home, but not before stopping for gas.

 

No blood was spilled in the streets. It didn't jump out of my pocket and start randomly shooting people, nor did it tell me to do anything evil. But I will say, I did like the feeling of security I had knowing it was there.

What? You didn't go to Jewel??? :P

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I went active Monday 3/10/14 in the AM and lic was in mail box PM of Wednesday 3/12. Have been carring every day since, watching and learning how to move through my day without

coming in conflict with GFZ's. So far 98% of the places I frequent are good to carry. My hospital has NO GUNS ON THEIR PROPERTY signs on the doors to the main building but not

at the entrance to the parking lots and not on the outer doctor buildings. Left gun in glove box but not exactly sure if I need to leave it in trunk or at home next time.

Deep in the learning curve at the moment.

Well, this (hopefully) was covered in your CCL Class. However, there is a TON of legal info crammed into a short amount of time, so a refresher is not a bad idea:

 

 

 

(B) Notwithstanding subsections (a), (a-5), and (a-10) of this Section except under paragraph (22) or (23) of subsection (a), any licensee prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm into the parking area of a prohibited location specified in subsection (a), (a-5), or (a-10) of this Section shall be permitted to carry a concealed firearm on or about his or her person within a vehicle into the parking area and may store a firearm or ammunition concealed in a case within a locked vehicle or locked container out of plain view within the vehicle in the parking area. A licensee may carry a concealed firearm in the immediate area surrounding his or her vehicle within a prohibited parking lot area only for the limited purpose of storing or retrieving a firearm within the vehicle's trunk, provided the licensee ensures the concealed firearm is unloaded prior to exiting the vehicle. For purposes of this subsection, "case" includes a glove compartment or console that completely encloses the concealed firearm or ammunition, the trunk of the vehicle, or a firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container.

My humble opinion is that you dealt with the hospital prohibited zone in an appropriate manner. Remember, if you do choose to store your firearm in the trunk, it must be unloaded before you exit the vehicle AND you must make every attempt at keeping it concealed as you move from your vehicle door to the trunk.

 

Carry on!

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First carry was while walking dog around neighborhood. I have been carrying around the house because I could and to experiment and get used to it. Not having to disarm for the first time in many years when I went out the door and down the street with my dog was quite a thrill! Easy way to start out. No GFZs on public sidewalks and streets where I live. No parks or schools nearby. Little by little I have been expanding my carry arenas. I have yet to run into a no guns sign where I live in west central Illinois. However, I do have a good grasp of mandatory GFZs so avoid them or just know I can't carry in them if I go to one. Taking it easy starting out in this new adventure!

Yeah, walking the dog is a good first time move. Not a million people around that you "know have identified you as a man with a gun". You can pull the back of your shirt or coat down to "make sure" you're still concealed without drawing any attention.

 

True story from my first dog walk while CC'ing. I was walking about 2 blocks from my house, along the sidewalk...almost home from our 1 1/2 mile walk, when out of nowhere this very agressive dog comes charging up to, but JUST short of the sidewalk, barking ferociously at me and my dog. It took a few seconds to realize that the jackass owner had one of those buried wire fences and the dog could come up to the sidewalk without getting shocked.

 

A couple of thoughts about this setup:

 

1 - It startled the crap out of me, not knowing the dog was going to stop.

 

2 - Had I not been walking my dog (which is a pit bull who just looked at the dog with that "please bite me so we can get started" look), I may have been inclined to draw on this dog. It had CLEARLY evil intentions for me. Luckily, I just took a step back behind my own dog, knowing the other dog would never get close to me.

 

3 - I don't have a fear of dogs, and did not over react to the situation, but man....I'm picturing some old lady, or someone who IS fearful of dogs walking down this sidewalk. That "fence" setup is TOTALLY inapporpriate. It basically prevents people from using the public sidewalk in front of said jackass's house.

 

4 - I thought long and hard about calling the cops on this owner. Luckily, nothing happened (to HIS dog - wasn't too worried about myself of my dog), but I didn't. I'm sure someone will or has, though. After going by the house again later in my car, I did notice ONE sign almost hidden from sight about the electronic fence, but trust me it wasn't clearly visible to someone just walking down the sidewalk.

 

 

Warner

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First morning carrying....

 

Drove wife to work - nothing to report.

Stopped at Wal-Mart for the obligatory Wally-Walk, which included some groceries - no .22 ammo - nothing else to report.

Stopped at my usual gas station (not posted) - nothing to report.

 

I wouldn't say that I felt overly self-conscious about carrying a loaded handgun under my jacket. Never felt like anyone was watching me closely and never felt the urge to check for proper concealment.

 

I did feel a little more liberated and that I had accepted responsibility for my own security.

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Since the crazies have been plastering businesses with GFZ signs, I've been doing drive-bys...I drive by and see if I see a sign on the entrance. If I can't see anything from 10 feet, I'm good to go. If I do see one, I'll drive on and find another business to spend my money.

That's pretty much what I do. I'm still aggravated about the local gas station posting for no good reason. I make a point of not going in there anymore.

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First carry was while walking dog around neighborhood. I have been carrying around the house because I could and to experiment and get used to it. Not having to disarm for the first time in many years when I went out the door and down the street with my dog was quite a thrill! Easy way to start out. No GFZs on public sidewalks and streets where I live. No parks or schools nearby. Little by little I have been expanding my carry arenas. I have yet to run into a no guns sign where I live in west central Illinois. However, I do have a good grasp of mandatory GFZs so avoid them or just know I can't carry in them if I go to one. Taking it easy starting out in this new adventure!

Yeah, walking the dog is a good first time move. Not a million people around that you "know have identified you as a man with a gun". You can pull the back of your shirt or coat down to "make sure" you're still concealed without drawing any attention.

 

True story from my first dog walk while CC'ing. I was walking about 2 blocks from my house, along the sidewalk...almost home from our 1 1/2 mile walk, when out of nowhere this very agressive dog comes charging up to, but JUST short of the sidewalk, barking ferociously at me and my dog. It took a few seconds to realize that the jackass owner had one of those buried wire fences and the dog could come up to the sidewalk without getting shocked.

 

A couple of thoughts about this setup:

 

1 - It startled the crap out of me, not knowing the dog was going to stop.

 

2 - Had I not been walking my dog (which is a pit bull who just looked at the dog with that "please bite me so we can get started" look), I may have been inclined to draw on this dog. It had CLEARLY evil intentions for me. Luckily, I just took a step back behind my own dog, knowing the other dog would never get close to me.

 

3 - I don't have a fear of dogs, and did not over react to the situation, but man....I'm picturing some old lady, or someone who IS fearful of dogs walking down this sidewalk. That "fence" setup is TOTALLY inapporpriate. It basically prevents people from using the public sidewalk in front of said jackass's house.

 

4 - I thought long and hard about calling the cops on this owner. Luckily, nothing happened (to HIS dog - wasn't too worried about myself of my dog), but I didn't. I'm sure someone will or has, though. After going by the house again later in my car, I did notice ONE sign almost hidden from sight about the electronic fence, but trust me it wasn't clearly visible to someone just walking down the sidewalk.

 

 

Warner

 

It's two blocks from your house and you've never been by there (or had this kind of contact) before? Huh. Scary, yes. What would you have the cops charge him with?

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It's two blocks from your house and you've never been by there (or had this kind of contact) before? Huh. Scary, yes. What would you have the cops charge him with?

 

Rather than re-hash the whole discussion, I would refer you to this thread which I started yesterday after posting here when i realized the whole "dog" issue might be a distraction from the intent of this thread:

 

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47333

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First carry was while walking dog around neighborhood. I have been carrying around the house because I could and to experiment and get used to it. Not having to disarm for the first time in many years when I went out the door and down the street with my dog was quite a thrill! Easy way to start out. No GFZs on public sidewalks and streets where I live. No parks or schools nearby. Little by little I have been expanding my carry arenas. I have yet to run into a no guns sign where I live in west central Illinois. However, I do have a good grasp of mandatory GFZs so avoid them or just know I can't carry in them if I go to one. Taking it easy starting out in this new adventure!

Yeah, walking the dog is a good first time move. Not a million people around that you "know have identified you as a man with a gun". You can pull the back of your shirt or coat down to "make sure" you're still concealed without drawing any attention.

 

True story from my first dog walk while CC'ing. I was walking about 2 blocks from my house, along the sidewalk...almost home from our 1 1/2 mile walk, when out of nowhere this very agressive dog comes charging up to, but JUST short of the sidewalk, barking ferociously at me and my dog. It took a few seconds to realize that the jackass owner had one of those buried wire fences and the dog could come up to the sidewalk without getting shocked.

 

A couple of thoughts about this setup:

 

1 - It startled the crap out of me, not knowing the dog was going to stop.

 

2 - Had I not been walking my dog (which is a pit bull who just looked at the dog with that "please bite me so we can get started" look), I may have been inclined to draw on this dog. It had CLEARLY evil intentions for me. Luckily, I just took a step back behind my own dog, knowing the other dog would never get close to me.

 

3 - I don't have a fear of dogs, and did not over react to the situation, but man....I'm picturing some old lady, or someone who IS fearful of dogs walking down this sidewalk. That "fence" setup is TOTALLY inapporpriate. It basically prevents people from using the public sidewalk in front of said jackass's house.

 

4 - I thought long and hard about calling the cops on this owner. Luckily, nothing happened (to HIS dog - wasn't too worried about myself of my dog), but I didn't. I'm sure someone will or has, though. After going by the house again later in my car, I did notice ONE sign almost hidden from sight about the electronic fence, but trust me it wasn't clearly visible to someone just walking down the sidewalk.

 

 

Warner

 

It's two blocks from your house and you've never been by there (or had this kind of contact) before? Huh. Scary, yes. What would you have the cops charge him with?

 

But to answer your question, I live in Elgin and under Elgin's animal ordinance, a dog can be declared dangerous and its owner fined $1,000, even if it doesn't bite a person or another animal. There's already a case behind that ordinance where an Elgin woman was fined $2,200 when her two dogs ran up to someone barking viciously at the person who was walking down the sidewalk.

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Went to lunch the other day with a friend. First time out with new permit! Ruger LCP deep in pocket carry. No GFZ sign visible at or near front doors.

 

Got seated about 3/4 of the way into the restaurant. About halfway through lunch, glanced around and noticed a GFZ sign on the glass window of an emergency exit about ten feet away from our table. So, they had posted, but about 40 feet or so from the main door, and not where anyone coming in to the place would ever notice it until they'd already been seated.

 

My conscience is clear. I'm not naming the place, because I don't want to tip them off and have yet another place become a true GFZ.

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Went to lunch the other day with a friend. First time out with new permit! Ruger LCP deep in pocket carry. No GFZ sign visible at or near front doors.

 

Got seated about 3/4 of the way into the restaurant. About halfway through lunch, glanced around and noticed a GFZ sign on the glass window of an emergency exit about ten feet away from our table. So, they had posted, but about 40 feet or so from the main door, and not where anyone coming in to the place would ever notice it until they'd already been seated.

 

My conscience is clear. I'm not naming the place, because I don't want to tip them off and have yet another place become a true GFZ.

 

How about asking them to remove the sign?

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Went to lunch the other day with a friend. First time out with new permit! Ruger LCP deep in pocket carry. No GFZ sign visible at or near front doors.

 

Got seated about 3/4 of the way into the restaurant. About halfway through lunch, glanced around and noticed a GFZ sign on the glass window of an emergency exit about ten feet away from our table. So, they had posted, but about 40 feet or so from the main door, and not where anyone coming in to the place would ever notice it until they'd already been seated.

 

My conscience is clear. I'm not naming the place, because I don't want to tip them off and have yet another place become a true GFZ.

If a location is posted in a manner hard to detect it might be a good idea to post the location here so that members don't run afoul.

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Went to lunch the other day with a friend. First time out with new permit! Ruger LCP deep in pocket carry. No GFZ sign visible at or near front doors.

 

Got seated about 3/4 of the way into the restaurant. About halfway through lunch, glanced around and noticed a GFZ sign on the glass window of an emergency exit about ten feet away from our table. So, they had posted, but about 40 feet or so from the main door, and not where anyone coming in to the place would ever notice it until they'd already been seated.

 

My conscience is clear. I'm not naming the place, because I don't want to tip them off and have yet another place become a true GFZ.

 

Stuff like this is going to happen all the time and sooner or later someone is going to wind up in cuffs because of incorrect and inconspicuous signage. This a real problem and key reason for the misdemeanor penalty to be removed from the law.

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