GarandFan Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:55 AM Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:55 AM Check this out ... http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110916/EDIT07/309169998/1021/EDIT Published: September 16, 2011 3:00 a.m.Furthermore … Congress seeks to undermine state’s gun limits Indiana’s gun laws governing permits to carry concealed handguns are among the most lenient in the nation, but do offer some reasonable protections that most Hoosiers want. A bill under consideration in Congress, H.R. 822, would supersede Indiana laws and require every state to honor other states’ gun-carrying permits. Indiana law prohibits granting a concealed carry permit to applicants who have been convicted of resisting law enforcement, have a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse or have been convicted of violating state gun laws in the five years prior to the application. State law also gives local law enforcement limited discretion to approve or deny carry permits. The proposal would require Indiana to honor the permits of people from other states who may not meet those minimal standards. Congress wisely rejected a similar proposal in 2009. And Mayors Against Illegal Guns – a bipartisan coalition of 600 mayors, including Fort Wayne’s Tom Henry and Angola’s Richard Hickman – is urging lawmakers to reject this legislation as well.
GarandFan Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:56 AM Author Posted September 16, 2011 at 11:56 AM I had to send them a brief note: Journal-Gazette Editors: In your Editorial (16 Sept 11; Congress seeks to undermine state's gun limits), you sound the alarm that HR822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act", would require Indiana to honor all other states' gun-carrying permits. I find your alarm to be wholly disingenuous, because Indiana currently honors all other states' gun-carrying permits. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. "GarandFan"
lieut89 Posted September 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM Posted September 16, 2011 at 12:23 PM That is too funny!
Xwing Posted September 16, 2011 at 01:35 PM Posted September 16, 2011 at 01:35 PM I had to send them a brief note: Journal-Gazette Editors: In your Editorial (16 Sept 11; Congress seeks to undermine state's gun limits), you sound the alarm that HR822, the "National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act", would require Indiana to honor all other states' gun-carrying permits. I find your alarm to be wholly disingenuous, because Indiana currently honors all other states' gun-carrying permits. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. "GarandFan" That was the first thought out of my mind as well. HR822 would have no effect on Indiana, since it already honors all permits. Did this reporter not even do the smallest bit of basic research before spouting off?
sctman800 Posted September 16, 2011 at 01:56 PM Posted September 16, 2011 at 01:56 PM Indiana also honors permits issued by foreign countries. Jim.
ilphil Posted September 16, 2011 at 04:59 PM Posted September 16, 2011 at 04:59 PM As the wise man said..."you can't fix stupid"
papa Posted September 16, 2011 at 05:07 PM Posted September 16, 2011 at 05:07 PM A true anti-gunner shouting "the sky is falling" . Tell a lie convincingly enough and people will be doing this>>>
GarandFan Posted September 16, 2011 at 05:11 PM Author Posted September 16, 2011 at 05:11 PM No response yet ...
mrmagloo Posted September 16, 2011 at 07:59 PM Posted September 16, 2011 at 07:59 PM No response yet ...Don't hold your breath.
Uncle Harley Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:00 AM Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:00 AM No response yet ...Don't hold your breath. I called the tip line and got right through. The guy was nice and we had a very civil conversation. He said he would relay the message to his editor and suggested that I contact them with a letter to the editor as well. here is the contact info from the website. 600 W. Main St. P.O. Box 88 Fort Wayne, IN 46801-0088 To contact us Online: journalgazette.net Main newsroom e-mail: jgnews@jg.net Main newsroom phone number: 260-461-8773 24/7 news tip line: 260-466-NEWS (6397) Main newsroom fax number: 260-461-8648 To reach a specific department or person in the newsroom or get information on how to submit a news, feature, sports item or a letter to the editor, please click on this link, In the Newsroom. EDIT: Just found this To complain about coverageIf you want to report inaccuracies, or to complain about coverage, or lack of it, you may contact the editor, Craig Klugman, at 260-461-8853, or the managing editor, Sherry Skufca, at 260-461-8201.
Lou Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:10 AM Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:10 AM If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. 100% correct. I sure do hope these folks put their thinking caps on.
oneshot Posted September 17, 2011 at 08:21 AM Posted September 17, 2011 at 08:21 AM Indiana law prohibits granting a concealed carry permit to applicants who have been convicted of resisting law enforcement, have a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse or have been convicted of violating state gun laws in the five years prior to the application. State law also gives local law enforcement limited discretion to approve or deny carry permits. In listing these restrictions, they infer that some state out there issues permits to people with these offenses, as journalists I would hope that they would cite one or two examples. We're seeing journalism becoming less and less about facts and more and more about persuasion. Not a good thing.
Gooch Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:36 PM I'm surprised the didn't mention all the "children" that would die if this bill passes. Gooch
abolt243 Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM Posted September 17, 2011 at 12:55 PM I'm surprised the didn't mention all the "children" that would die if this bill passes. Gooch Lesson to be learned here: IN has had some form of CCW since 1935. Most of us here in IL would love to have IN's CCW law. They do recognize ANY carry license issued by any state or any COUNTRY in the world. They are still fighting the media and the antis are still active in trying to take away their rights. And many of the authorities don't know what the laws of the state really are concerning vehicle carry, open carry, and local pre-emption. After 75+ years, the anti gun mentality is still alive and strong in some parts of IN. Some think that when we get CCW here in IL we'll be able to relax because the fight will be over. Ladies and Gents, the fight is NEVER over!! AB
Uncle Harley Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:28 PM Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:28 PM I'm surprised the didn't mention all the "children" that would die if this bill passes. Gooch Lesson to be learned here: IN has had some form of CCW since 1935. Most of us here in IL would love to have IN's CCW law. They do recognize ANY carry license issued by any state or any COUNTRY in the world. They are still fighting the media and the antis are still active in trying to take away their rights. And many of the authorities don't know what the laws of the state really are concerning vehicle carry, open carry, and local pre-emption. After 75+ years, the anti gun mentality is still alive and strong in some parts of IN. Some think that when we get CCW here in IL we'll be able to relax because the fight will be over. Ladies and Gents, the fight is NEVER over!! AB YIP! and in my humble opinion, I believe we will have to make an effort to keep up the fight even harder because many of us will get laxed once we get it, and things get bad when one is asleep at the wheel.
mikew Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:36 PM Posted September 17, 2011 at 01:36 PM Were they tipping their hat to their former mayor, Paul Helmke, formerly of the Brady Campaign? Maybe he's now on the editorial board, or whispers in someone's ear. Either way, Garand Fan's comment is king.
Drylok Posted September 17, 2011 at 03:30 PM Posted September 17, 2011 at 03:30 PM Indiana law prohibits granting a concealed carry permit to applicants who have been convicted of resisting law enforcement, have a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse or have been convicted of violating state gun laws in the five years prior to the application Don't all the states have those same prohibits anyway? I mean, talk about histeria
bob Posted September 17, 2011 at 04:35 PM Posted September 17, 2011 at 04:35 PM Indiana law prohibits granting a concealed carry permit to applicants who have been convicted of resisting law enforcement, have a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse or have been convicted of violating state gun laws in the five years prior to the application Don't all the states have those same prohibits anyway? I mean, talk about histeria There are two things newspapers will print errors about and almost never print a correction for. One is about politically motivated things like guns. The other is in the pseudo advertising stuff where their advertisers get "news" coverage for free. I once pointed out a gross arithmetic error in a story about a solar energy supplier to the register star. No response from the reporter at all so after a few days I emailed the editor and publisher. I got a response back several weeks later something along the lines of they considered it was now too late to print a correction anyway and their advertiser who provided the information denied the error. A double whammy - solar energy being mostly political and it being about money.
Uncle Harley Posted September 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM Posted September 20, 2011 at 11:58 AM found this in my e-mail today Thank you for bringing this error to our attention. We are publishing a correction Tuesday. Tracy Warner Editorial Page Editor The Journal Gazette
Uncle Harley Posted September 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM Posted September 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20110920/NEWS01/309209999/1021/EDIT
abolt243 Posted September 20, 2011 at 12:12 PM Posted September 20, 2011 at 12:12 PM http://www.journalga...09999/1021/EDIT In other words, "Our righteous indignation was misplaced and totally uncalled for!! Please forgive our ignorance and the incompetence of our editorial staff." The Ft. Wayne Journal Gazette
GarandFan Posted September 20, 2011 at 01:16 PM Author Posted September 20, 2011 at 01:16 PM I didn't get one of those "thanks for bringing this to our attention" emails. At the least, it's good to know they published a correction.
Uncle Harley Posted September 20, 2011 at 01:40 PM Posted September 20, 2011 at 01:40 PM I didn't get one of those "thanks for bringing this to our attention" emails. At the least, it's good to know they published a correction. I pretty much wrote the same thing you did, only I cited the Indiana code as my sorrce and pasted the code into the e-mail, mabey that is why they wrote me back and made the correction, I proved them wrong in black and white, not the grey area of my opinion.
Xwing Posted September 20, 2011 at 03:42 PM Posted September 20, 2011 at 03:42 PM http://www.journalga...09999/1021/EDIT Nice. They admitted that they hadn't done the very basic research before crying hysterically in the original article.
SFC Stu Posted September 20, 2011 at 05:02 PM Posted September 20, 2011 at 05:02 PM http://www.journalga...09999/1021/EDIT Nice. They admitted that they hadn't done the very basic research before crying hysterically in the original article. Every time we see something real stupid like this, we need to bring it to the editors attention!
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