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I fully agree with what you’re saying, but have to ask. Why would they check your FOID to buy powder? Not required by state law that I know of.

IIRC, the elimination of the expiration date from the card was portrayed as the FOID never expiring unless the holder became a “prohibited person”. Obviously that is not the case. It still expires, but now it will be harder to determine when that date is and to make sure that it is “renewed” upon gun purchases as promised. I too passed along the idea of the “digital card” information showing the expiration date. That will eliminate the agency’s responsibility to print new cards, but give us proof of validity when making purchases face to face and a screen shot to send to online ammo sellers. I thought that digital license info was acceptable to Illinois Conservation police in the case of hunting/fishing license but can’t find verifying statutes. Maybe one of you can verify/disprove that. I do know in MO, there is an app for that and digital hunting license are common. As I’ve said privately, digital access with an expiration date might make this **** sandwich just palatable enough to endure until we can get the whole concept of FOID declared unconstitutional, which should be the goal of every 2A friendly organization with activity in Illinois.

#4 - Looks like there will be an additional number for security. My guess is that this number will come into play when “checking validity”.

It is still 30 days for new FOIDs, They have 60 days for renewals and FOID remains active during that time. Please read this!!!! Molly has posted this info twice, I've posted the renewal info once. Read the law and understand it!!!! Thank You! (430 ILCS 65/5) (from Ch. 38, par. 83-5) Sec. 5. Application and renewal. (a) The Department of State Police shall either approve or deny all applications within 30 days from the date they are received, except as provided in subsection ( b. of this Section, and every applicant found qualified under Section 8 of this Act by the Department shall be entitled to a Firearm Owner's Identification Card upon the payment of a $10 fee. Any applicant who is an active duty member of the Armed Forces of the United States, a member of the Illinois National Guard, or a member of the Reserve Forces of the United States is exempt from the application fee. $6 of each fee derived from the issuance of Firearm Owner's Identification Cards, or renewals thereof, shall be deposited in the Wildlife and Fish Fund in the State Treasury; $1 of the fee shall be deposited in the State Police Services Fund and $3 of the fee shall be deposited in the State Police Firearm Services Fund. ( b. Renewal applications shall be approved or denied within 60 business days, provided the applicant submitted his or her renewal application prior to the expiration of his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card. If a renewal application has been submitted prior to the expiration date of the applicant's Firearm Owner's Identification Card, the Firearm Owner's Identification Card shall remain valid while the Department processes the application, unless the person is subject to or becomes subject to revocation under this Act. The cost for a renewal application shall be $10 which shall be deposited into the State Police Firearm Services Fund. (Source: P.A. 100-906, eff. 1-1-19.)

Yes, if you apply for renewal of your FOID prior to it's expiration date, and you are not subject to revocation. So, it remains valid, your FCCL is also valid. The law: ( b. Renewal applications shall be approved or denied within 60 business days, provided the applicant submitted his or her renewal application prior to the expiration of his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card. If a renewal application has been submitted prior to the expiration date of the applicant's Firearm Owner's Identification Card, the Firearm Owner's Identification Card shall remain valid while the Department processes the application, unless the person is subject to or becomes subject to revocation under this Act. The cost for a renewal application shall be $10 which shall be deposited into the State Police Firearm Services Fund. (Source: P.A. 100-906, eff. 1-1-19.)

From the FAQ (but still does not address notary answer when application done online) . Minor Applicants Can I apply for a FOID Card if I am not 21 years of age? Yes, a minor can apply for a FOID card with a parent or legal guardian sponsor. The parent or legal guardian must be eligible for a FOID card. The parent or legal guardian must also sign an affidavit and attach it to the application. (At this time, if you were born after January 1, 2000, you must submit your application through the alternative call-in method via the Customer Service Call Center at 217-782-7980.) And there's the answer to the question. Minors must apply via the alternative call-in method described above.

Read his opening post. The answer is yes, multiple.

Just as a point of reference, I helped a co-worker apply for a FOID. Applied on 5/9, went active 5/26, two and a half weeks. Waiting now on the actual card in the mail. The Holiday will have some impact I'm sure. AB

Okay, I'll bite. That section was repealed in March 2014. K, thanks. I need to update the version of 98-63 that I have in dropbox and access from my phone.

When the FCCL was first implemented, the FCCL number was your FOID number preceded by the last two numbers of the year the FCCL was issued. I.E. my FOID was 12345678 so my FCCL# became 1412345678, (FCCL issued in 2014). The FOID card was NOT replaced. Then, at some point, the ISP decided they needed to produce and issue twice as many cards, so they began issuing new FOID cards when FCCL cards were issued. Both cards have the exact same number, still based on the pre-existing FOID # (if you had one). As to d_tierne1's comments and suggestions, I agree. In fact, making the FOID the carry card with a special holographic sticker or some such designation was suggested at least as early as 2008. If you look at the current FCCL law, Section 92 calls for a task force to be implemented by the Governor to determine the feasibility of having one card for both licenses. We're still waiting for that report from the task force. AFAIK, we're still waiting on the task force members to be named. If someone can correct me, please do, I'll stand corrected and applaud!! Of all the things that need to be improved about our FCCL law, a couple of low hanging fruit seem to be the above issue, moving to one card for both; and the issue of waiting periods for holders of the FCCL. Many folks (yours truly included) have stood, fully armed with multiple magazines on body, filled out the paperwork on a new firearm, and had to walk out and return 24 or 72 hours later to pick up said firearm. Explain the logic behind that!! But, I can carry everyday, so that's a step up from 2013!!! AB

The worst part is, it's not a new problem and one that we thought was fixed. But now it pops up again. Not sure if the changes in policy are not getting passed along to all the staff or if something has changed again. Molly is on it so we'll have some answers soon. If the FFL is willing, she/he might run the NICS check using your new FOID or FCCL number to see if it goes through. If the FFL is willing, do a screen shot of the approved FOID and FCCL from the ISP website and take it to the FFL. Maybe they can run I that way. Just a thought. You still wouldn't have the physical card and technically can't posses or carry without the cards. But would be interesting to see if the BG check goes through. AB

This was a situation that came up after the ISP decided to issue new FOID's along with the FCCL to make the numbers the same. Seems redundant to me, but it's their call. However, it was my understanding that the situation had been resolved. I've passed your thread along to Molly, we'll see what transpires. Thanks for reporting it. AB

Helped a friend apply. Application completed on 3/14, active status on 4/11.

As for the picture, take a digital picture with whatever device you have handy. I've used phone, iPad and digital camera. Get that image to the device that you're using to make application and simply upload it when prompted in the application app. The actual card will have your wife's picture from her DL or State ID. The picture you send in is used strictly for matching her ID to the existing database. AB

Somebody missed a decimal point. He typed 179,202 FOIDS. That should be 1,792,220 FOIDS state wide. 76,414 FCCL's make it 4.26% of gun owners have FCCLs. About .59% of the general population. About 13.9% of Illinoisians have a FOID card. I wonder what the "eligible" population is? I.E. not prohibited from owning a firearm by Federal law?? How many felons do we have in the state??

Good job and good idea to always have a back up FOID in the house. As I understand it, the "previous names" allows the ISP to do the background check for that last name too. So yes, include your wife's maiden name. Slow and easy wins the day when working with a spouse or close friend that tends towards Anti-ism. If you can ever get her to a range with a .22 and a 100 rounds of ammo, many times that will turn the tide. Sell it as a safety lesson. AB

Post Offices are prohibited by rule #23, federal building. They will have the federal version of the GFZ sign posted somewhere inside. There are ongoing attempts to get this changed at the federal level, and some will argue that the federal law actually allows licensed carry inside. The actual law contains wording to the effect of an exception for those on "official business", or "lawful business" or something similar. I looked it up. Says "lawful purposes". Still considered illegal to carry there. T

trh53 - please see your private messages. Thanks, Tim

Ming and Drylok.... Yes and yes.

Note that these applications are sent in by paper and are typed into the system. Updates are probably manual too. So if you move, it's conceivable that they fail to update the county, for instance. See also the earlier posts about the 2007 numbers. What makes our 10 percent interesting is that we could pick the Democratic governor in the primary. I think Madigan sees that Look at a map. Galesburg nearly sits on the county line. Those 92 probably do live in Warren county but have a Galesburg mailing address. You'll find instances of that throughout the database.

It's 2007 data, sorted by zip codes. Sometimes is misleading as to actual physical location. The county numbers should be pretty close for our needs. You could do a new FOIA request and put together a new spreadsheet with up to date data. Then we'd know for sure. Ol' Coach that did this passed on a couple of years ago. That man was passionate about RTC in IL. Tim

Hey guys, on the FB page, looks like the cells need to be shifted down one row at Gabel to sync the names and addresses. Just those three rows down to Halbrook. Everything below Halbrook is good. Thanks for this, and just in the nick of time!! Tim

Committee meetings have always been open to the public. When attending those meetings, one could, if he so chose, fill out a "witness slip", indicating your position on the issue, and whether you wished to speak personally, file a written statement or just show support/opposition by your presence. During the last session, these slips were put on line in the House so that even folks that could not personally attend could show their position on the issue. The format on the on line slip follows the same format as the physical slip that you fill out at the hearing itself. I suppose that's to allow for quicker, more accurate recording of 'yeas and nayes". The practice has expended to the Senate for this session. So yes, it's a non binding way to show your position on the issue without actually having to attend the hearing. Tim

Grey, PM sent, hope that helps.

Try the IDNR range at Sparta . Looks to be just down Rt 4, maybe miles from Lebanon. I've only shot sporting clays there at a fund raiser so I"m not sure of the "open to the public" access or hours. Nice facility that I could see, I plan to go back this August to the Grand American. Good luck.