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People v Brzuskiewicz


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Just read it. NICE. I love the part where the State cites Cleveland Bd of Education v Loudermill as a case that supports their position, only to have the Judge say "The Loudermill case actually supports the respondent's assertion that the act is unconstitutional." Just warms the cockles of my heart to know the State's research hurt themselves and helped the respondent :) The judge - at least to me, and IANAL - really seemed to slap around the State.

 

Hopefully, they appeal it up the ladder so it becomes a Statewide ruling.

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So, does this mean that the State of Illinois was beaten like the biihtch they iz with this ruling? And since the ruling states that the Act is unconstitutional, and that it can't be severed from the rest of the law, according to the ruling, does that mean that the law is stricken down on Constitutional grounds? How can it not be, if a court rules it as unconstitutional?

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It is stricken down as unconstitutional within that particular court only. If it is appealed to the the second circuit and the trial court is upheld, then it becomes binding on the entire second circuit. If it is then appealed to the Illinois Supreme Court and upheld, then it becomes binding and therefor unenforceable in the entire state. This is a win. I'd rather defend a win on appeal than to argue for a reversal. Expect an appeal.

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Reading the attached PDF, my understanding that the Kane County Circuit Court refused to issue a Protective Order because, in its opinion, the law is unconstitutional. That doesn't strike down the law. I believe the State Supreme Court would be required to do that. It just means the Kane County Circuit Court will not issue a Protective Order in this case.

 

The opinion contained in the PDF would allow the State Supreme Court to issue a ruling saying "Yeah, what they said," which would then strike down the law. In the meantime, the Kane County Court is also saying it will never issue a Protective Order under the existing law, because the law is not only unconstitutional, but it's unconstitutional on its face.

 

So I guess the issue now is whether Illinois will appeal (or perhaps already has appealed) the Kane County decision to the State Supreme Court.

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It is stricken down as unconstitutional within that particular court only. If it is appealed to the the second circuit and the trial court is upheld, then it becomes binding on the entire second circuit. If it is then appealed to the Illinois Supreme Court and upheld, then it becomes binding and therefor unenforceable in the entire state. This is a win. I'd rather defend a win on appeal than to argue for a reversal. Expect an appeal.

 

So, what if the State of Illinois doesn't appeal, in order to keep the damage localized? Is there any way to force the issue, or for someone to use it in other, wider jurisdictions to invalidate the law for everyone? After all, if it's unconstitutional for one jurisdiction in the U.S., by the very definition of "unconstitutional" that would make it universally so.

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If unconstitutional, why State court ?

 

Why not file a Federal Civil Rights Violation case?

The Kane Count Court opinion references the Illinois Constitution as well as the US Constitution, therefore the opinion is that the law is unconstitutional on state constitutional grounds. A federal court wouldn't rule on that, at least not directly.

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The name of this case is People vs... it's a criminal case, as stated in the opinion. He didn't file the case, he got arrested... Then raised a defense based on the constitutional grounds and won.

 

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Reading the attached PDF, my understanding that the Kane County Circuit Court refused to issue a Protective Order because, in its opinion, the law is unconstitutional. That doesn't strike down the law. I believe the State Supreme Court would be required to do that. It just means the Kane County Circuit Court will not issue a Protective Order in this case.

 

The opinion contained in the PDF would allow the State Supreme Court to issue a ruling saying "Yeah, what they said," which would then strike down the law. In the meantime, the Kane County Court is also saying it will never issue a Protective Order under the existing law, because the law is not only unconstitutional, but it's unconstitutional on its face.

 

So I guess the issue now is whether Illinois will appeal (or perhaps already has appealed) the Kane County decision to the State Supreme Court.

 

As I stated in the post above this one, the appeal would have to go to the Illinois second circuit court of appeals first, then either side could appeal to the Illinois supreme court.

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It's only binding within the circuit, guiding/persuasivein all others. If appealed, it will be binding within the jurisdiction of the appellate court (district)but guiding for all others. Supreme Court, binding entire state.
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