Jake Logan Posted January 14, 2023 at 01:46 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 01:46 AM (edited) (iv) Possession of a weapon only for hunting use expressly permitted under the Wildlife Code, or while traveling to or from a location authorized for this hunting use under the Wildlife Code if the weapon is broken down in a nonfunctioning state, is not immediately accessible, or is unloaded and enclosed in a firearm case, carrying box, shipping box, or other similar portable container designed for the safe transportation of firearms. By October 1, 2023, the Illinois State Police, in consultation with the Department of Natural Resources, shall adopt rules concerning the list of applicable weapons approved under this subparagraph. Under this travelling with an "assault weapon" exception, when I go hunting out of state, why do I have to abide by the Illinois Wildlife Code as far as transporting a rifle? If the rifle is legal for hunting in the state to which I am travelling, what does the Illinois Wildlife Code have to do with it? Nothing. But the way this is written, I can't travel to the Illinois state line with my legal to use (in another state) rifle for hunting. Edited January 14, 2023 at 01:55 AM by Jake Logan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techgeek Posted January 14, 2023 at 01:58 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 01:58 AM On 1/13/2023 at 7:46 PM, Jake Logan said: (iv) Possession of a weapon only for hunting use expressly permitted under the Wildlife Code, or while traveling to or from a location authorized for this hunting use under the Wildlife Code if the weapon is broken down in a nonfunctioning state, is not immediately accessible, or is unloaded and enclosed in a firearm case, carrying box, shipping box, or other similar portable container designed for the safe transportation of firearms. Under this travelling with an "assault weapon" exception, when I go hunting out of state, why do I have to abide by the Illinois Wildlife Code as far as transporting a rifle? If the rifle is legal for hunting in the state to which I am travelling, what does the Illinois Wildlife Code have to do with it? Nothing. But the way this is written, I can't travel to the Illinois state line with my legal to use (in another state) rifle for hunting. IL jurisdiction encompasses anyone and anywhere they can threaten into compliance with their bidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 14, 2023 at 01:58 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 01:58 AM Another thing to sue about. Illinois has no jurisdiction and can't tell you what to do with your property in a free state. Can't wait to leave the most corrupt state in the union which has now turned into a police state, not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmikex Posted January 14, 2023 at 03:26 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 03:26 AM Honestly it’s the same reason someone with legal marijuana in IL can get arrested in indiana on their way to Michigan where pot is legal also. I don’t even drink but the gun AND drug laws should be taken off the books in my opinion. It’s been a rough week for gun owners in IL and the US with the BS pistol brace interpretation. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted January 14, 2023 at 03:28 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 03:28 AM On 1/13/2023 at 8:46 PM, Jake Logan said: ... the weapon is broken down in a nonfunctioning state, is not immediately accessible, or is unloaded and enclosed in a firearm case, carrying box, shipping box, or other similar portable container designed for the safe transportation of firearms. ... Under this travelling with an "assault weapon" exception, when I go hunting out of state, why do I have to abide by the Illinois Wildlife Code as far as transporting a rifle? ... Those are the conditions for transporting any firearm not covered by CCL. Listing them in the wildlife code is redundant, but not wrong. 720 ILCS 5/24-1(a) said: ... (4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed on or about his person except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions: (i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or (ii) are not immediately accessible; or (iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case, firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card; or (iv) are carried or possessed in accordance with the Firearm Concealed Carry Act by a person who has been issued a currently valid license under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act; or ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted January 14, 2023 at 04:33 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 04:33 AM What they are doing is trying to get this unconstitutional and illegal stuff entwine in as many different laws/regulations/ rules as possible so it will be that much harder to untwine it all when it gets ruled unconstitutional and thrown out. That is why they are pushing to get the foid card and CCL card stuck together because they know the foid is going down and want it to be as hard as possible to do. It is nothing but screw you as hard and as much as possible for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Logan Posted January 14, 2023 at 04:44 AM Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 04:44 AM On 1/13/2023 at 9:26 PM, xmikex said: Honestly it’s the same reason someone with legal marijuana in IL can get arrested in indiana on their way to Michigan where pot is legal also. I don’t even drink but the gun AND drug laws should be taken off the books in my opinion. It’s been a rough week for gun owners in IL and the US with the BS pistol brace interpretation. Ugh. Actually, it is worse than that. It is like saying you can have marijuana in Illinois if you already own it, and it is even less restrictive to have in the states you will be driving to, but you can't transport it through Illinois to get to those less restrictive states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Logan Posted January 14, 2023 at 04:45 AM Author Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 04:45 AM On 1/13/2023 at 9:28 PM, Euler said: Those are the conditions for transporting any firearm not covered by CCL. Listing them in the wildlife code is redundant, but not wrong. I am not bringing attention to the method of transportation. That is not my concern. I am bringing attention to not being able to transport a rifle in any fashion for hunting use (while in Illinois) if Illinois defines it as an "assault rifle", unless it is authorized to do so under the Illinois Wildlife Code, which has nothing to do with the legality of use for hunting with the rifle in another state, where it is allowed. How do I hunt in another state if Illinois prevents me from transporting my hunting rifle to the other state? Many rifles were not "authorized for hunting use under the Wildlife Code" before the gun ban bill passed and are still not (think of bottle necked cartridges and deer hunting), yet they could still be transported to other states for hunting. (iv) Possession of a weapon only for hunting use expressly permitted under the Wildlife Code, or while traveling to or from a location authorized for this hunting use under the Wildlife Code if the weapon is broken down in a nonfunctioning state, is not immediately accessible, or is unloaded and enclosed in a firearm case, carrying box, shipping box, or other similar portable container designed for the safe transportation of firearms. By October 1, 2023, the Illinois State Police, in consultation with the Department of Natural Resources, shall adopt rules concerning the list of applicable weapons approved under this subparagraph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 14, 2023 at 05:22 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 05:22 AM (edited) On 1/13/2023 at 10:45 PM, Jake Logan said: (iv) Possession of a weapon only for hunting use expressly permitted under the Wildlife Code, or while traveling to or from a location authorized for this hunting use under the Wildlife Code if the weapon is broken down in a nonfunctioning state, is not immediately accessible, or is unloaded and enclosed in a firearm case, carrying box, shipping box, or other similar portable container designed for the safe transportation of firearms. By October 1, 2023, the Illinois State Police, in consultation with the Department of Natural Resources, shall adopt rules concerning the list of applicable weapons approved under this subparagraph. Quote yet they could still be transported to other states for hunting. I think it's more poorly written then even you imagine, based on the black and white text as I read it, unless that out of state place you are going hunting is authorized under Illinois Wildlife Code that "or" clause is not applicable either. Basically as I read it, unless the wildlife code says you can hunt at that out of state location, you won't be able to transport those firearms to/from. Edited January 14, 2023 at 05:25 AM by Flynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealcala31 Posted January 14, 2023 at 05:42 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 05:42 AM Remember in Freedom Steel Todd V said this law is coming after everybody; conceal carry, hunters, everybody... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 14, 2023 at 05:51 AM Share Posted January 14, 2023 at 05:51 AM On 1/13/2023 at 11:42 PM, ealcala31 said: Remember in Freedom Steel Todd V said this law is coming after everybody; conceal carry, hunters, everybody... Exactly and they're not done, this is just the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted January 16, 2023 at 03:56 PM Share Posted January 16, 2023 at 03:56 PM On 1/13/2023 at 11:42 PM, ealcala31 said: Remember in Freedom Steel Todd V said this law is coming after everybody; conceal carry, hunters, everybody... Because the elites are still upset - not just about having to recognize our right to an effective means of self defense allowed in 49 other states to varying degrees, but because they couldn't hide their dirty laundry behind the robes of a political crony. Well, that and the fact that their only "justifications" were "we can", "it's not nonsensical" and "it might make people safer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted January 16, 2023 at 05:45 PM Share Posted January 16, 2023 at 05:45 PM On 1/13/2023 at 7:58 PM, 357 said: Another thing to sue about. Illinois has no jurisdiction and can't tell you what to do with your property in a free state. Can't wait to leave the most corrupt state in the union which has now turned into a police state, not surprised. While I agree, Illinois has been getting away with it for some time. Paying county sales tax on a vehicle bought in a different county (with lower taxes), and paying taxes on internet purchases if the vendor lies outside Illinois border, just two examples. Illinois will do what ever it wants and scare anyone into compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted January 16, 2023 at 05:52 PM Share Posted January 16, 2023 at 05:52 PM On 1/16/2023 at 11:45 AM, AlphaKoncepts aka CGS said: While I agree, Illinois has been getting away with it for some time. Paying county sales tax on a vehicle bought in a different county (with lower taxes), and paying taxes on internet purchases if the vendor lies outside Illinois border, just two examples. Illinois will do what ever it wants and scare anyone into compliance. There's a difference between property purchased outside the state and then brought into the state.. and property that is never within the state of Illinois. Bringing here gives them some justification to regulate/tax it. If it's not in the state, it is not within their legal purview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddly Posted January 16, 2023 at 06:07 PM Share Posted January 16, 2023 at 06:07 PM On 1/16/2023 at 11:45 AM, AlphaKoncepts aka CGS said: While I agree, Illinois has been getting away with it for some time. …paying taxes on internet purchases if the vendor lies outside Illinois border…. That was from a SCOTUS decision and pretty much every state with a sales tax jumped on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted January 16, 2023 at 09:57 PM Share Posted January 16, 2023 at 09:57 PM On 1/16/2023 at 12:07 PM, Fuddly said: That was from a SCOTUS decision and pretty much every state with a sales tax jumped on it. Proof gun owners place way too much faith in the courts. They don't always get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted January 16, 2023 at 10:02 PM Share Posted January 16, 2023 at 10:02 PM I wouldn't say we place our faith in the courts, to many activist judges on the bench for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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