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#1 mauserme

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 06:27 AM

The House is scheduled for 12:00 Noon today. The Senate , previously scheduled for session today, is not in.

On the House Calender:

HB0143 - Crim CD Military Reenactor

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House Sponsor: Reitz
Status: Second Reading

Synopsis As Introduced


Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Exempts, from provisions prohibiting the sale, manufacture, purchase, possession, or carrying of specified weapons, an active member of a bona fide, nationally recognized military re-enacting group possessing a vintage rifle or modern reproduction thereof with a barrel or barrels less than 16 inches in length for the purpose of using the rifle during historical re-enactments if: (1) the modification is required and necessary to accurately portray the weapon for historical re-enactment purposes; the re-enactor is in possession of a valid and current re-enacting group membership credential; and the overall length of the weapon as modified is not less than 26 inches; or (2) the person has been issued a Curios and Relics license from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Effective immediately.




The House Agriculture & Conservation Committee has the following bills on their calender today. They are scheduled to meet at 2:00 PM.

HB0003 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0004 - Firearm Owners Preempt Loc Gov

HB0005 - Wildlife Code Case Definition

HB0006 Wildlife Code Muskrat Hunting

HB0008 - Firearm Owners ID Premption

HB0112 - Firearms Concealed Carry

HB0142 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0148 - Firearms Concealed Carry

HB0264 - Firearm Owners Preemt Loc Gov

HB0265 - Crim Cd Firearm Transport

HB1163 - Wildlife Powder Cartridges

HB1403 - Concealed Carry Permits


Although there are quite a few of our bills on the committee schedule today it is worth remembering that not all bills will necessarily be heard at their first opportunity. This will likely be a day for patience as groundwork is laid for the future.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 06:36 AM

Patience my favorite. I love being patient, the longer I have to be patient for something, especially when it's an individual, fundamental, incorporated right, the happier I am. I get this unflawed character trait from my father and grandfather before him. Posted Image
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#3 mauserme

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 06:47 AM

I'm just saying its better to wait if a bill is not yet ready. I would rather have success in a few weeks or months than a quick defeat.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 11:16 AM

Preemption bills to move in ag committee today

The fireworks begin
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 11:50 AM

Preemption bills to move in ag committee today


Which ones?

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#6 mauserme

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:06 PM

The House is convening.

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#7 mauserme

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:45 PM

HB0143 moved to third reading.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 12:47 PM

Preemption bills to move in ag committee today

The fireworks begin


My guess is fireworks = HB148.

Let's roll...
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:14 PM

The House has adjourned.


HB0143 is still showing staus as Second Reading. I'll check again later.

EDIT: Third reading it is. Another step forward.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:27 PM

Preemption bills to move in ag committee today

The fireworks begin


My guess is fireworks = HB148.

Let's roll...

5 more sponsors added today...
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:29 PM

That means 5 more people are jumping on the winning bandwagon!! :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:40 PM

That means 5 more people are jumping on the winning bandwagon!! :thumbsup:


Why did Michael Unes remove himself as cosponsor? Was it because he is sponsoring a different LTC bill?
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:46 PM

That means 5 more people are jumping on the winning bandwagon!! :thumbsup:


Why did Michael Unes remove himself as cosponsor? Was it because he is sponsoring a different LTC bill?


2/15/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes
2/17/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes
2/17/2011 House Removed Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes

he a Chief Co-sponsor now not just a Co-sponsor

1/21/2011 House Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
2/17/2011 House Remove Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
2/17/2011 House Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz

Reitz went the other way form a chief to just a co


we now have
Phelps as filer
4 Chief Co-Sponsors
20 Co-Sponsors
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 01:52 PM

My state rep Mike Bost was added as a sponsor the middle of this month. I called his office thanking him. It looks like Randy Ramey Jr. of West Chicago is the only sponsor near Chicago. I believe I counted 25 sponsors, have we had this many on any other RTC bill?

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 02:20 PM

The times, they are a changing. Who woulda thunk it that RTC was 'the bandwagon' to be on. I would love, love, love to be able to get an IL carry permit this year, especially with the Thune amendment looking to become law. Otherwise, it's going to be a l-o-n-g couple of years.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 03:34 PM

The House has adjourned.


HB0143 is still showing staus as Second Reading. I'll check again later.


What do these guys do with the other 4 or 5 hours of the work day? Are they lazy or are there other things they are actually working on?
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 03:46 PM

The House has adjourned.


HB0143 is still showing staus as Second Reading. I'll check again later.


What do these guys do with the other 4 or 5 hours of the work day? Are they lazy or are there other things they are actually working on?


While I won't say they are the hardest working folks in the world, but in their defense, they do attend committee meetings, meet with and correspond with constituents, return calls, etc. during the rest of the day. What they do on the floor is but a very small part of their job. Oh, they also meet with the NRA and ISRA lobbyists to discuss RTC and statewide pre-emption!!
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 03:54 PM

The following bills have been passed in committee, all on a vote of 13/1/0:

HB0003 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0004 - Firearm Owners Preempt Loc Gov

HB0005 - Wildlife Code Case Definition

HB0008 - Firearm Owners ID Premption

HB0264 - Firearm Owners Preemt Loc Gov

HB0265 - Crim Cd Firearm Transport


Patience on the rest.


Edited 2/24/2011 to add that HB0142 - Firearms Municipal Regulation was also moved to second reading on 2/22/2011

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:05 PM

The following bills have been passed in committee, all on a vote of 13/1/0:

HB0003 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0004 - Firearm Owners Preempt Loc Gov

HB0005 - Wildlife Code Case Definition

HB0008 - Firearm Owners ID Premption

HB0264 - Firearm Owners Preemt Loc Gov

HB0265 - Crim Cd Firearm Transport


Patience on the rest.

Who was the NO vote?
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:13 PM

WILL HB008 MAKE THE COOK COUNTY AWB NULL AND VOID?
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:22 PM

Who was the NO vote?
boog


I don't know but I see Todd jumping in and out of this thread. Here's an open invitation for any inout you want to add Mr. V.



WILL HB008 MAKE THE COOK COUNTY AWB NULL AND VOID?


By my reading there are several bills, some still in committee, that might impact local ordinance.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:24 PM

WILL HB008 MAKE THE COOK COUNTY AWB NULL AND VOID?



Sounds like it should ... that would be a good thing... :thumbsup:

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:37 PM

The following bills have been passed in committee, all on a vote of 13/1/0:

HB0003 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0004 - Firearm Owners Preempt Loc Gov

HB0005 - Wildlife Code Case Definition

HB0008 - Firearm Owners ID Premption

HB0264 - Firearm Owners Preemt Loc Gov

HB0265 - Crim Cd Firearm Transport


Patience on the rest.

Who was the NO vote?
boog



Kelly Burke D
Mary E. Flowers D
Frank J. Mautino D
Jack McGuire D

they are the only ones on the committee that arnt listed as supporters of RTC, i would believe it is one of them...
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 04:57 PM

The following bills have been passed in committee, all on a vote of 13/1/0:

HB0003 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0004 - Firearm Owners Preempt Loc Gov

HB0005 - Wildlife Code Case Definition

HB0008 - Firearm Owners ID Premption

HB0264 - Firearm Owners Preemt Loc Gov

HB0265 - Crim Cd Firearm Transport


Patience on the rest.

Who was the NO vote?
boog



Kelly Burke D
Mary E. Flowers D
Frank J. Mautino D
Jack McGuire D

they are the only ones on the committee that arnt listed as supporters of RTC, i would believe it is one of them...


I just dropped a note to my contact at the clerk's office. He has always been good about getting me the committee votes. We'll see what come up. I'll be surprised if Mary Flowers voted FOR it. Actually is surprising that we got only one NO vote. That is encouraging.

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:08 PM

That means 5 more people are jumping on the winning bandwagon!! :thumbsup:


Why did Michael Unes remove himself as cosponsor? Was it because he is sponsoring a different LTC bill?


I believe it's because Unes is NOW a Chief Co-sponsor. It may be Unes and Reitz wanted to trade.House

Remove Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
Added Co-Sponsor Rep. Dan Reitz
Added Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes
Removed Co-Sponsor Rep. Michael Unes

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:11 PM

While I won't say they are the hardest working folks in the world, but in their defense, they do attend committee meetings, meet with and correspond with constituents, return calls, etc. during the rest of the day. What they do on the floor is but a very small part of their job. Oh, they also meet with the NRA and ISRA lobbyists to discuss RTC and statewide pre-emption!!


Thanks, I was genuinely curious. It has always seemed that they were there briefly and then out of session, I assumed they had other duties of course but was unsure as to what a normal day looked like for them.
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:12 PM

Right now we have 7 Dems and 18 Repubs sponsoring

I'm just sayin........

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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:12 PM

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The following bills have been passed in committee, all on a vote of 13/1/0:

HB0003 - Firearms Municipal Regulation

HB0004 - Firearm Owners Preempt Loc Gov

HB0005 - Wildlife Code Case Definition

HB0008 - Firearm Owners ID Premption

HB0264 - Firearm Owners Preemt Loc Gov

HB0265 - Crim Cd Firearm Transport


Patience on the rest.
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Who was the NO vote?
boog
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Kelly Burke D
Mary E. Flowers D
Frank J. Mautino D
Jack McGuire D

they are the only ones on the committee that arnt listed as supporters of RTC, i would believe it is one of them...
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I just dropped a note to my contact at the clerk's office. He has always been good about getting me the committee votes. We'll see what come up. I'll be surprised if Mary Flowers voted FOR it. Actually is surprising that we got only one NO vote. That is encouraging.

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i honestly think it was Flowers for the no...
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:14 PM

Right now we have 7 Dems and 18 Repubs sponsoring

I'm just sayin........

all the dems where first to on the list...
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Posted 22 February 2011 - 05:29 PM

Right now we have 7 Dems and 18 Repubs sponsoring

I'm just sayin........

all the dems where first to on the list...


Yeah.......so?