domin8 Posted May 8, 2015 at 05:00 AM Posted May 8, 2015 at 05:00 AM (edited) Don't get too confident. South Carolina might be going Constitutional Carry. That'll allow Illinois residents to carry. Also keep an eye on Texas. I'm hoping the final tally will be 50. Edited May 8, 2015 at 05:02 AM by domin8
kurt555gs Posted July 8, 2015 at 09:45 PM Posted July 8, 2015 at 09:45 PM My CCW app stills shows Maine as red and it should be green. All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Molly B. Posted July 8, 2015 at 10:03 PM Author Posted July 8, 2015 at 10:03 PM It is official! Maine goes Constitutional Carry! Residents of IL can now carry in Maine. https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150708/maine-governor-lepage-signs-nra-backed-bill-for-permitless-carry
Molly B. Posted July 8, 2015 at 10:09 PM Author Posted July 8, 2015 at 10:09 PM I haven't added Puerto Rico because I'm concerned the ruling will be appealed. We'll keep an eye on it.
kwc Posted July 8, 2015 at 10:11 PM Posted July 8, 2015 at 10:11 PM My CCW app stills shows Maine as red and it should be green. All Your Base Are Belong To Us The bill goes into effect 90 days after the legislative session ends, so it shouldn't be "green" yet.
oohrah Posted August 3, 2015 at 02:05 PM Posted August 3, 2015 at 02:05 PM Texas. While no reciprocity yet (and probably not very soon), anyone who can legally possess a firearm, and is not in the act of committing a crime, can legally carry concealed in their vehicle. It must remain concealed, but there is no duty to inform. The only problem could be gun free school zones and post office property. You can also legally carry concealed from your residence directly to your vehicle and back again. It is called the Motorist Protection Act.
BobPistol Posted August 9, 2015 at 07:02 AM Posted August 9, 2015 at 07:02 AM 25 states done. 25 more to go (and DC and the territories....)
Xwing Posted August 10, 2015 at 04:30 PM Posted August 10, 2015 at 04:30 PM My CCW app stills shows Maine as red and it should be green. All Your Base Are Belong To UsThe bill goes into effect 90 days after the legislative session ends, so it shouldn't be "green" yet. This. Maine is not yet Constitutional Carry, and they do not recognize the Illinois license. They will be Constitutional Carry in ~2 months. But until then, cannot carry there w/o a ME license (or AK, DE, LA, MI, ND, PA, SD or WY resident license)
Molly B. Posted August 12, 2015 at 12:27 AM Author Posted August 12, 2015 at 12:27 AM Minnesota added to the list today! Makes 26 states counting Illinois!
Jen-in-Normal Posted August 12, 2015 at 12:59 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 12:59 AM Another state recognizes Illinois. I'm still amazed that any state recognizes our CCL. Sent from my SM-T320 using Tapatalk
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:27 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:27 AM (edited) Another state recognizes Illinois. I'm still amazed that any state recognizes our CCL. Sent from my SM-T320 using TapatalkMe too. If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal. How does Minnesota recognizing IL licenses help ANY Minnesota resident? Especially those with a Minnesota CCL? Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for US. I just think IL politicians suck- and not just about this. Edited August 12, 2015 at 01:29 AM by DomG
clenz Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:31 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:31 AM More guns in the good guy's hands is good for Minnesota residents.
defaultdotxbe Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:35 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:35 AM More guns in the good guy's hands is good for Minnesota residents. Plus politicians not being vindictive [redacted] is good for everyone Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
kwc Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:40 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:40 AM If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal. I would!!! The RKBA applies to everyone. Why should I punish the citizens of a state due to the stupidity of their elected officials? This isn't a political game. We are talking about people's lives... our very right to exist.
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:06 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:06 AM (edited) If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal. I would!!! The RKBA applies to everyone. Why should I punish the citizens of a state due to the stupidity of their elected officials? This isn't a political game. We are talking about people's lives... our very right to exist. Because if I was legislator duly elected by the people of Minnesota, I would want the rights of my constituents to be respected by the political scum that are Illinois politicians. It wouldn't be to punish IL people, it would be to get IL people to put pressure on their politicians to respect the rights of my people. Don't the lives of Miinesota citizens...their right to exist matter when they visit Illinois? Fair is fair. Edited August 12, 2015 at 02:09 AM by DomG
Glock23 Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:16 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:16 AM If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal. I would!!! The RKBA applies to everyone. Why should I punish the citizens of a state due to the stupidity of their elected officials? This isn't a political game. We are talking about people's lives... our very right to exist. Because if I was legislator duly elected by the people of Minnesota, I would want the rights of my constituents to be respected by the political scum that are Illinois politicians. It wouldn't be to punish IL people, it would be to get IL people to put pressure on their politicians to respect the rights of my people. Don't the lives of Miinesota citizens...their right to exist matter when they visit Illinois? Fair is fair. It wasn't pressure from the citizens that got us a carry law... it was the federal courts. Thinking that we the people could pressure anyone to grant priveleges to people from another state is dreaming.
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:29 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:29 AM If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal.I would!!! The RKBA applies to everyone. Why should I punish the citizens of a state due to the stupidity of their elected officials? This isn't a political game. We are talking about people's lives... our very right to exist. Because if I was legislator duly elected by the people of Minnesota, I would want the rights of my constituents to be respected by the political scum that are Illinois politicians. It wouldn't be to punish IL people, it would be to get IL people to put pressure on their politicians to respect the rights of my people. Don't the lives of Miinesota citizens...their right to exist matter when they visit Illinois? Fair is fair.It wasn't pressure from the citizens that got us a carry law... it was the federal courts. Thinking that we the people could pressure anyone to grant priveleges to people from another state is dreaming.Yet we expect other states to grant us that right that Illinois denies to their citizens. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm pushing for national recognition, just like any other license. Also, I hate Illinois politicians, if that wasn't obvious.
kwc Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:56 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 02:56 AM Back to our regularly scheduled programming... Up next, Maine in about 2 months!
Glock23 Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:04 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:04 AM If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal. I would!!! The RKBA applies to everyone. Why should I punish the citizens of a state due to the stupidity of their elected officials? This isn't a political game. We are talking about people's lives... our very right to exist. Because if I was legislator duly elected by the people of Minnesota, I would want the rights of my constituents to be respected by the political scum that are Illinois politicians. It wouldn't be to punish IL people, it would be to get IL people to put pressure on their politicians to respect the rights of my people. Don't the lives of Miinesota citizens...their right to exist matter when they visit Illinois? Fair is fair. It wasn't pressure from the citizens that got us a carry law... it was the federal courts. Thinking that we the people could pressure anyone to grant priveleges to people from another state is dreaming. Yet we expect other states to grant us that right that Illinois denies to their citizens. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm pushing for national recognition, just like any other license. Also, I hate Illinois politicians, if that wasn't obvious. I don't expect other states to grant us rights.. I just don't think they should actively oppose us because our legislators oppose their citizens.
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:13 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:13 AM If I was a state legislator in another state I wouldn't allow any state license to be recognized unless they were reciprocal.I would!!! The RKBA applies to everyone. Why should I punish the citizens of a state due to the stupidity of their elected officials? This isn't a political game. We are talking about people's lives... our very right to exist. Because if I was legislator duly elected by the people of Minnesota, I would want the rights of my constituents to be respected by the political scum that are Illinois politicians. It wouldn't be to punish IL people, it would be to get IL people to put pressure on their politicians to respect the rights of my people. Don't the lives of Miinesota citizens...their right to exist matter when they visit Illinois? Fair is fair.It wasn't pressure from the citizens that got us a carry law... it was the federal courts.Thinking that we the people could pressure anyone to grant priveleges to people from another state is dreaming.Yet we expect other states to grant us that right that Illinois denies to their citizens. Don't misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm pushing for national recognition, just like any other license. Also, I hate Illinois politicians, if that wasn't obvious.I don't expect other states to grant us rights.. I just don't think they should actively oppose us because our legislators oppose their citizens. If the situation were reversed (and if IL pols actually cared about us), I would expect them to stick up for us. Quid pro quo. It's a common courtesy in all things, even politics. You respect us, we'll respect you.
defaultdotxbe Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:15 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:15 AM Quid pro quo shouldn't be required when rights are considered. If that's the approach that you take they are no longer rights, they are little more than a courtesy extended to cronies Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:19 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:19 AM Quid pro quo shouldn't be required when rights are considered. If that's the approach that you take they are no longer rights, they are little more than a courtesy extended to cronies Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Youre right. It shouldn't be required. Recognizing other state licenses should be all that is needed. Or better yet- the second amendment.
defaultdotxbe Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:20 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:20 AM In either case the answer to a denial of rights is not more denial of rights Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:28 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:28 AM Denial of re-election to criminal IL pols IS the answer.
defaultdotxbe Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:48 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 03:48 AM Would be nice if someone ran against them up here in Cook county Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk
Gamma Posted August 12, 2015 at 08:41 AM Posted August 12, 2015 at 08:41 AM Yet we expect other states to grant us that right that Illinois denies to their citizens.States do not grant rights, they are natural / come from God (depending on your beliefs). The Constitution requires states to respect them. Denying rights to individuals because of the actions of some government body is vindictive and asinine.
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:29 PM Posted August 12, 2015 at 01:29 PM Yet we expect other states to grant us that right that Illinois denies to their citizens.States do not grant rights, they are natural / come from God (depending on your beliefs). The Constitution requires states to respect them. Denying rights to individuals because of the actions of some government body is vindictive and asinine. CCW isn't truly a right (regardless of the 2A) as long as the SCOTUS recognizes unconstitutional state laws that require licensing. You don't need a license for a right. Until CCW is recognized as a right under the 2A, ALL licenses from every state should be recognized by ALL states. I'm not trying to deny anyone's rights. My point is that everyone's rights should be recognized. And if I were a legislator in another state, I'd be fighting for my constituents rights, first and foremost and against states that deny the rights of my citizens.
Gamma Posted August 12, 2015 at 05:39 PM Posted August 12, 2015 at 05:39 PM And if I were a legislator in another state, I'd be fighting for my constituents rights, first and foremost and against states that deny the rights of my citizens.I don't think you understand the concept of "rights", if you think your constituents should have some privilege that others do not.
DomG Posted August 12, 2015 at 08:26 PM Posted August 12, 2015 at 08:26 PM And if I were a legislator in another state, I'd be fighting for my constituents rights, first and foremost and against states that deny the rights of my citizens.I don't think you understand the concept of "rights", if you think your constituents should have some privilege that others do not. Huh? I said I'd want my constituents to have the SAME rights when they visit Illinois that Illinois citizens have when they visit my state. No more, no less. It's an unknown concept to Illinoisans, but some legislators in other states actually treat their constituents as citizens and not subjects and they fight for their people.
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