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Do you have friends in any of the other pro-2A states between Illinois and California that would be willing to "hold" your firearms? Play it safe and avoid Colorado and Nevada. It might be smart to avoid New Mexico, too. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

California doesn't allow cars with out of state plates to be driven on their roads, or people licensed to drive by another state to drive in California? I don't think that can be true. The Drivers License Compact says it isn't true. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Dual residency is something you might be interested in. Biggest downside is paying state income tax to both states. Just a thought. https://www.blog.rapidtax.com/can-resident-two-states-time/ Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Still waiting on Culp v Madigan to play out. Hopefully our Culp lives a good long life. Another Culp I know of, who's ironically also an O-6 in the military, recently suffered a stroke and is being relieved of his command. Another irony is that both Culps worked in similar professions in the military. Both Culps also deny knowing the other. Culp, if you're reading this, stay healthy. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

https://youtu.be/xK77bfAedeM My bad for posting l not posting the link to the video in my last comment Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Regarding that lawsuit, word is things aren't going well. I find what this guy says to not pass the sniff test. Hopefully Skinny will chime in and debunk it like he did the NYSRPA lawsuit. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

The FOID Act has only affected law abiding citizens. During the 3 years I lived in Illinois i was never able to purchase ammo or a long gun because I didn't have a FOID. As a nonresident military spouse I couldn't get a FOID. I've offered to help Illinois Carry in this matter, but got shut down. There's no interest in an amicus from somebody like me. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

This is missing People v Holmes. Thr final ruling was issued by the Illinois Supreme Court in 2011. It was a lawsuit regarding nonresident FOID and transport of firearms Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

They're so red on that map that it should be blood red to reflect the result of decades of gun grabber management Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

*cough* AHEM *cough* *cough* Nonresident military spouse that lived in Illinois *cough* *cough* couldn't purchase ammo at Walmart/LGS for guns in home, couldn't purchase a long gun in Illinois, couldn't rent guns at shooting range, all due to inability to obtain FOID Card. *cough* *cough* brought many guns to Illinois that were kept in home, but it was ok under the FOID Card Act. *cough* *cough* Amicus??? *cough* Search forum archives dated 7/2012-7/2015 for post history regarding this. Iirc, I tried discussing this topic about 5 years ago. Military spouses who maintain residency in their home state can't obtain FOID Cards. Active duty military, regardless of state residency, have the option to obtain a FOID Card (not a requirement). Should the service member be deployed those guns are staying in the home while the service member is away. To be fair, I haven't read any of the court filings. Just throwing this stuff out there. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

As a nonresident military spouse stationed in Illinois I tried to make this point from 2012-2015, but it either fell on deaf ears or I was told to sit down and shut up. Nonresidents can't obtain FOIDs, thus can't purchase ammo, unless they are the active duty service member. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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I suspect their concern isn't about current requirements, but prior, including prior to joining the Air Force. I get where you're coming from. I'm just trying to get into Illinois head. Being able to see the argument before it's made is my favorite part of debate.

Imo, it won't really matter after Culp v Madigan. That case has a huge head start on this one.

Question: Is this person a resident of Illinois?

Reckless driving in Illinois is a Class A Misdemeanor. If somebody gets injured it becomes aggravated reckless driving, which is a class 4 felony. Illinois statute: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500050K11-503 Illinois does not appear to define reckless driving as a speed above the posted limit, like Utah and Virginia do. It seems to leave this to officer discretion. If the OP was only cited for speeding, I don't see an impact on their FOID Card. Keep in mind that a FOID Card can be denied or revoked for a felony conviction, pursuant to 430 ILCS 65/4 (2)(ii). In regards to a speeding tickets, misdemeanors for a driving violation are exempt under 430 ILCS 65/4 (2)(i). Speeding will not impact your FOID.

In some states 20+ over the limit qualifies for reckless driving, which is a felony. Utah is 40+. Virginia is 20+ or >80mph, whichever is lower. And, since 48 of the 50 states share drivers info, a reckless in 1 state could, theoretically, cost you your FOID in this state.

Don't get too confident. South Carolina might be going Constitutional Carry. That'll allow Illinois residents to carry. Also keep an eye on Texas. I'm hoping the final tally will be 50.

He can't really conceal a long gun.

What about contacting, and applying pressure to, the Secretary of State?

I have a neighbor that just came to me asking for the Utah Concealed Carry course so that he could purchase a firearm while in Illinois. He's a New York resident, but plans on retiring from the Navy in 2016 and settling in North Carolina. I set him straight that a concealed carry permit does not allow you to purchase a firearm. After further discussion I found out he got the idea to go this route after getting frustrated with the Drivers license office located at the intersection of Waukegan Road and Lake Cook Road. They told him he needed to surrender his NY drivers license, provide a copy of his orders, obtain an Illinois ID Card, etc, etc. When I told him this wasn't accurate, discussed the basics of the SSRA, nonresident FOID, active duty service members to be treated as civilians, LES, etc, he got upset about the drivers license office trying to screw him. At about this time his wife was getting into the car to head out for dinner, so he had to go. We agreed to meet up this weekend and I will help him apply for a FOID Card. Anyways, the question now becomes, what can be done to fix this problem of misinformation being provided by the DMV?

There are many situations in which military attorneys may choose to not bring federal charges against somebody. For example, when another jurisdiction is bringing the same or similar charges against that person. For example, there was a drunk driver that ran from Highland Park Police several months ago. Long story short, the civilian ran the barrier at Naval Station Great Lakes and ended up hitting at least 1 NSGL PD vehicle before being stopped. To the best of my knowledge, JAG did not bring up charges against the guy because Highland Park, Lake Forest, Lake Bluff, and/or North Chicago were going to be throwing several charges his way. Same thing with the 2 kids that broke into vehicles parked in a military housing community built on Navy owned land. The service members living there caught the kids, and the town, and victimized service members decided to bring charges against the kids, and the military attorneys stayed out of the matter. The military attorneys will bring charges when another jurisdiction won't intervene.

Give the intern that researched the statutes a cookie. They really excelled by pulling rulings that covered a time span of 155 years. Also, way to go in getting the FOID Card Act exemptions included in there. Those are just my comments from reading the table of contents. I haven't read the the amicus yet.

I'll try, but it's not something I can just pick up right now. If you give me through the weekend I'll have something for you. If somebody else can get it done faster, please do.

Sorry, but I had work the morning if this protest. That's the only reason I wasn't there. As for this new idea, is be all in if the gun shop was going to recognize there are no laws in Illinois preventing or restricting a nonresident that can lawfully own or possess a firearm from purchasing handgun ammo. As it stands, all of my purchases are made out of state.