We have been notified that the IL Att. General Lisa Madigan has filed for a 30 day extension to petition for cert to the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Moore/Shepard vs Madigan.
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IL AG Lisa Madigan files for 30 day extension to file cert
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, Apr 29 2013 12:23 PM
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:23 PM
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:26 PM
Will the Posner panel be the ones to approve/deny this request? Already more than gracious and gave them 180 days, what is the point of another 30. Go figure, more wasted tax dollars
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:27 PM
We have been notified that the IL Att. General Lisa Madigan has filed for a 30 day extension to petition for cert to the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Moore/Shepard vs Madigan.
Will post the document as it becomes available.
I'm shocked!
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:29 PM
We have been notified that the IL Att. General Lisa Madigan has filed for a 30 day extension to petition for cert to the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Moore/Shepard vs Madigan.
Will post the document as it becomes available.
I'm shocked!
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:32 PM
Will the Posner panel be the ones to approve/deny this request? Already more than gracious and gave them 180 days, what is the point of another 30. Go figure, more wasted tax dollars
I believe this is coming from SCOTUS not CA7.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:33 PM
Yeah, 6 Months isnt enough I guess! Nice. While our legal system has many things going for it, the fact that the wheels turn slowly (so very slowly) often makes me sick. Why?
because it favors those with power and cash (this type of case, or others). Often the powerful can outspend you, delay you, etc hoping to win by default. That allows for things like this "oh, please, 6 months wasnt enough, the legislature hasn't done anything, give me more time to appeal..."
makes me sick.
because it favors those with power and cash (this type of case, or others). Often the powerful can outspend you, delay you, etc hoping to win by default. That allows for things like this "oh, please, 6 months wasnt enough, the legislature hasn't done anything, give me more time to appeal..."
makes me sick.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:41 PM
With out seeing the document would this affect the 180 day clock? From what Molly posted this is more time to file for Cert not an extension for extending the 180 day clock. Hopefully she will be told to go pound sand. It's not like she hasen't had plenty of time allready. At least here is hope. Jim.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:41 PM
Since it should have no effect on the 7th's order, go ahead and give them more time to do nothing.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:49 PM
30 days, then another 30 and so on....
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:54 PM
I think she wants extra time to see what plays out in the Illinois House and or Senate. Her daddy wants Chicago and Cook County to have their own say over concealed carry, and they were hoping to pass that bill by playing their little games with our legislators. Their games are not going as planned and their time is running out. She filed the extension just to keep SCOTUS in her game plan shall May Issue fail. If May Issue for Chicago/Cook County is not passed to their liking then she will be forced to file the appeal to SCOTUS to be proven wrong by another Court and to continue wasting Illinois tax payers money. Remember folks, this woman also thinks she would be good as our governor.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:56 PM
This is the proof that they plan on taking this down to the wire.
Time to hold the line people. Our side should refuse a budget vote until our CCW bill is passes.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:56 PM
Will the Posner panel be the ones to approve/deny this request? Already more than gracious and gave them 180 days, what is the point of another 30. Go figure, more wasted tax dollars
IANAL, but this is a request for an extension to the deadline to file for cert, which I believe expires on May 27, NOT a request for an extension to the 180 day grace period for the injunction placed by the 7th, which expires June 9.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:57 PM
It is my understanding that this isn't uncommon and usually granted. The wheels of justice do grind slowly, indeed.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 12:59 PM
They should refuse to allow an extension past June 8th.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:03 PM
Lisa is not trying to argue "May Issue" over the CA7 ruling. If she does file for cert, she will have to argue the TOTAL BAN over carrying. May Issue for Chicago would be a completely different lawsuit. I don't see Lisa winning cert against the SCOTUS.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:06 PM
I wasn't saying that she was arguing May Issue. I was saying that she wants May Issue for Chicago and Cook County. If they got that bill passed, then I think the SCOTUS appeal would fade into the dark.Lisa is not trying to argue "May Issue" over the CA7 ruling. If she does file for cert, she will have to argue the TOTAL BAN over carrying. May Issue for Chicago would be a completely different lawsuit. I don't see Lisa winning cert against the SCOTUS.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:13 PM
My prediction is that no bill is passed and Lisa mad again will appeal the week of 6/3.. My .2
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:14 PM
So basically, she knows now that "may issue" has no chance of winning, and as soon as she sees that their imminent loss is on the immediate horizon, she's going to file for cert.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:30 PM
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:30 PM
En Banc was denied Friday Feb. 22nd., 2013. I believe May 23rd., 2013 is her last day to file for Cert. (90 days after denial of En Banc)
She wants SCOTUS to give her 30 more days!!??
These people are goofy.
And with SCOTUS denying to hear NY "may" issue why would they bother with this??
She wants SCOTUS to give her 30 more days!!??
These people are goofy.
And with SCOTUS denying to hear NY "may" issue why would they bother with this??
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:32 PM
CAUSE IT'S A BETTER CASE. IMOEn Banc was denied Friday Feb. 22nd., 2013. I believe May 23rd., 2013 is her last day to file for Cert. (90 days after denial of En Banc)
She wants SCOTUS to give her 30 more days!!??
These people are goofy.
And with SCOTUS denying to hear NY "may" issue why would they bother with this??
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:37 PM
Filing for an extension and then deciding not to file is really jerking SCOTUS around - and I don't think Lisa Madigan would do that.
IMO, the most important thing about this is that Lisa Madigan is indeed going to file for cert.
I think the reason she want an extension is so that it doesn't actually go to SCTUS right away. If she had filed a few weeks ago, SCOTUS would have made a decision on this - like they did in Kachalski. She doesn't want that to happen. A denial of cert right away is going to push the legislators who are on the fence and IMO a denial of cert might help push them to just voting and getting the question of concealed carry over with.
IMO, the most important thing about this is that Lisa Madigan is indeed going to file for cert.
I think the reason she want an extension is so that it doesn't actually go to SCTUS right away. If she had filed a few weeks ago, SCOTUS would have made a decision on this - like they did in Kachalski. She doesn't want that to happen. A denial of cert right away is going to push the legislators who are on the fence and IMO a denial of cert might help push them to just voting and getting the question of concealed carry over with.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:38 PM
Im going to have to buy more asprin..Off to the store I go.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:40 PM
I'm not afraid that SCOTUS would overturn the 7ths ruling.
We have a solid win in SCOTUS. I just assumed they weren't interested in any gun cases this year?
And beside that, what a waste of time and resources in all that debate just to run off and cert.
We have a solid win in SCOTUS. I just assumed they weren't interested in any gun cases this year?
And beside that, what a waste of time and resources in all that debate just to run off and cert.
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Registration is only a step.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:40 PM
My prediction is that no bill is passed and Lisa mad again will appeal the week of 6/3.. My .2
20 cents eh? Feeling generous today I see.
I think most of us had an idea something like this was coming.
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Im going to have to buy more asprin..Off to the store I go.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:44 PM
Is this the appeal that could possibly overturn may issue in other states? You know, the one everyone ws saying Bloomberg would **** if Lisa appealed.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:51 PM
Is this the appeal that could possibly overturn may issue in other states? You know, the one everyone ws saying Bloomberg would **** if Lisa appealed.
Wondering the same. If it were to go to SCOTUS, chances are, the case wouldn't be brought up for a couple years? Ultimately after a 2014 Governor of Illinois election.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 01:52 PM
Is this the appeal that could possibly overturn may issue in other states? You know, the one everyone ws saying Bloomberg would **** if Lisa appealed.
Wondering the same. If it were to go to SCOTUS, chances are, the case wouldn't be brought up for a couple years? Ultimately after a 2014 Governor of Illinois election.
I'm guessing it would be heard next Spring with a decision by Summer 2014.
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