birdman1967 Posted December 6, 2022 at 01:25 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 01:25 AM My cousin just received his combo card today and mine is on its way. Upon reviewing his card, there are no expiration dates on the card. How will we know when to start planning for ccw renewal? I find it out that no exp date is on the card, essentially if it's on file somewhere, it can always be valid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squints08 Posted December 6, 2022 at 02:21 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 02:21 AM My father in-law got his combo card in the mail today as well and he’s been deceased since 6/2020. Does Illinois really not have the ability to eliminate deceased persons from this database? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted December 6, 2022 at 02:40 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 02:40 AM On 12/5/2022 at 8:21 PM, Squints08 said: My father in-law got his combo card in the mail today as well and he’s been deceased since 6/2020. Does Illinois really not have the ability to eliminate deceased persons from this database? Not sure if they send out notices to the ISP when someone dies. But was he a democrat? Just asking cause that would explain a lot! /S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted December 6, 2022 at 03:56 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 03:56 AM On 12/5/2022 at 7:25 PM, birdman1967 said: My cousin just received his combo card today and mine is on its way. Upon reviewing his card, there are no expiration dates on the card. How will we know when to start planning for ccw renewal? I find it out that no exp date is on the card, essentially if it's on file somewhere, it can always be valid? Correct, there are no expiration dates on the card. That does not mean that it does not expire. Here is a short document from the ISP discussing this: https://www.ispfsb.com/public/downloadableresource.ashx?id=81 I think that ultimately it means that you have to carry a card that anyone who checks it will need to do a web lookup on it to see if it's valid. I think this topic has been discussed here a lot, but let's stay on topic please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:22 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:22 AM On 12/5/2022 at 8:25 PM, birdman1967 said: My cousin just received his combo card today and mine is on its way. Upon reviewing his card, there are no expiration dates on the card. How will we know when to start planning for ccw renewal? I find it out that no exp date is on the card, essentially if it's on file somewhere, it can always be valid? You have to check online for expiration. The FOID and the CCL expiration can be the same or different. Supposedly ISP should send you a notice 180 days prior to any expiration, but many people don't get them. (Personally, I got 3: email, text, and USPS. USPS arrived after I had already applied for renewal.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:47 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 04:47 AM Suggest writing expiration date on the back of the card with a sharpie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted December 6, 2022 at 06:20 AM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 06:20 AM On 12/5/2022 at 11:47 PM, Molly B. said: Suggest writing expiration date on the back of the card with a sharpie. Maybe on the back on a piece of tape. The date is going to change over time, but the card won't be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted December 6, 2022 at 12:37 PM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 12:37 PM So, if they have to get online and check anyway, why do we need the card? Wouldn't the DL serve the same purpose as ID and then the State could save money by not having to print out cards that all they do is then go online to see if it is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted December 6, 2022 at 01:10 PM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 01:10 PM All this talk of ID cards sounds racist. Isn't that the argument Democrats always make about Voter ID and suppression of the right to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted December 6, 2022 at 08:37 PM Share Posted December 6, 2022 at 08:37 PM On 12/6/2022 at 7:37 AM, bmyers said: So, if they have to get online and check anyway, why do we need the card? Wouldn't the DL serve the same purpose as ID and then the State could save money by not having to print out cards that all they do is then go online to see if it is real. A license is a concept. It's the permission you have from a granting authority to do something (drive a car, play a song in public, etc.). In the case of a driver's license, the card is a "license document" or "proof of license." In the case of a FOID and CCL, it's proof that the keeping and bearing of arms aren't rights (in Illinois). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crufflesmuth Posted December 23, 2022 at 06:46 PM Share Posted December 23, 2022 at 06:46 PM Eventually, Illinois and most of these "license" or "permit" schemes will be struck down. I think the next frontier, for the so-called "anti-violence" movement will be firearm transport, or implementing some form of state-wide registration, where you can only "register" a certain amount of firearms, in the state of your residence - all to allegedly pass muster in the post-Bruen world. That's what Mexico does. You don't need a permit. You don't need a license. You are constitutionally guaranteed a certain number of firearms by their laws. When these license and permit schemes end up getting struck down, we'll see bizarre efforts - possibly even attempts from certain Chicago politicians to enact similar madness. I don't think such propositions would fair, as well, but I do see that being where they'll go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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