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What is current law regarding loaning a firearm to someone to shoot at a range, private shooting location, or in a match? This isnt a "take home" loan, but hand it to them at the site of the range or shooting match for temporary immediate use on premises.

 

One factor, does it change anything that the loaner (gun owner) is a non-resident just visiting, and does the loanee have to have a FOID card to shoot someone elses gun at a range, private shooting location or match?

 

I searched and couldnt find anything relevant to this question.

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If I'm reading correctly you and a out of state (Illinois) resident friend are going shooting?

If he or she is out of state they need NO FOID card.

If you want them to shoot your firearm then they can no issues at all.

private location, indoor range match doesn't matter.

 

Now, some places will not sell them ammo as they are not Illinois residents. Solve this issue by knowing before hand what and if any ammo is needed and YOU purchase it with money that comes from your pockets, if its an issue. YMMV

Many resident peeps here in Illinois have out of state friends and many share firearms when out shooting.

Enjoy your time out and enjoy being with a friend. Stay Safe!

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Each range has their own policy about requiring FOID cards to shoot. ISP says a FOID IS NOT required to shoot on an ISP recognized range. We require one person on a lane to have a valid FOID if they transported a firearm to the range. As far as loaning an firearm to a friend while under your supervision, I would have no problem with that and I have not seen anything in the statute that would prevent that as long as the other person was not restricted from having a FOID card, no felonies or other disqualifiers.

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Yes, the firearm owner (me) is not an Illinois resident. The local friend/borrower is an Illinois resident. I didnt know if that was a problem legally if they did not have a FOID card.

 

Ive been in gun shops over the years, some will hand you anything to look at *, some shops say if you arent a resident and have a FOID they cant even hand it to you to look at. Cant even touch it according to some.

 

 

*And ive bought at least one from an Illinois dealer in the past, just paid for it and they shipped it to my home state dealer.

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Legally, nobody needs a FOID to shoot at a range, but many ranges require a FOID, anyway. Ranges are prohibited from letting felons shoot on their property, which may be the basis of asking for a FOID, not that any range employee actually knows why the range has the policy. I have never had any range check my FOID for validity.

 

As an out-of-state resident, you don't need a FOID to transport your firearm to the range. Federal law covers that. NY and NJ would have you arrested as soon as you walked across the parking lot at the range, but fortunately IL isn't as bad as NY and NJ yet.

 

There's a notorious shop in Plainfield (SW of Chicago) that won't even let you in the door if you don't have a FOID.

 

So, despite there being no legal prohibition, your biggest challenge will be finding a range that will let you shoot without a FOID.

 

As for loaning a gun, as long as you're with the person the whole time, that's also fine. Some people may want to argue how far apart you can get and still be "with" the person, but I don't think we need to have that argument in this case.

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I can't understand the attitude of Mega Sports, they required a FOID card to enter, and a few years ago I went there ( it use to be my regular range) and the guy wanted to go through my range bag. When I asked 'why', he said he wanted to see if I had any lead ammo. I said "give me my money back and goodbye forever".

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Yeah it’s a shame the largest and busiest firearms store in central to northern Illinois treats its customer base like that.

After 23 plus years you’d think they’d be out of business soon instead of growing.

It’s always lonely and tough at the top and jealousy runs in all business industries.

 

F ‘em but I’ll buy another 28 from them before I shop elsewhere. Been treated like **** other places and looked at like a homeless person when asking about high end stuff. My abilities to pay or know what I wanted was never questioned. I’ve been told at other stores that I’m wasting my money on high end firearms before. Imagine not wanting to sell a $4500.00 handgun!

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As for loaning a gun, as long as you're with the person the whole time, that's also fine. Some people may want to argue how far apart you can get and still be "with" the person, but I don't think we need to have that argument in this case.

 

 

Me: **Takes date to the range**

Her: Can I shoot now?

Me: Yes...**wraps arms around her**

Her: Hey! This is only our first date!!!

Me: Sorry honey... Illinois law douncha know....

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As for loaning a gun, as long as you're with the person the whole time, that's also fine. Some people may want to argue how far apart you can get and still be "with" the person, but I don't think we need to have that argument in this case.

 

 

 

 

Me: **Takes date to the range**

Her: Can I shoot now?

Me: Yes...**wraps arms around her**

Her: Hey! This is only our first date!!!

Me: Sorry honey... Illinois law douncha know....

carefull of the Buttstock….
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As for loaning a gun, as long as you're with the person the whole time, that's also fine. Some people may want to argue how far apart you can get and still be "with" the person, but I don't think we need to have that argument in this case.

 

 

 

 

Me: **Takes date to the range**

Her: Can I shoot now?

Me: Yes...**wraps arms around her**

Her: Hey! This is only our first date!!!

Me: Sorry honey... Illinois law douncha know....

carefull of the Buttstock….

 

 

Indeed. Don't let your barrel enter the breach.

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