gmk Posted September 21, 2017 at 04:57 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 04:57 PM Am moving. Do I need to turn in or send in my Ill. FOID and CCW cards after I establish residency in another state? If so where and to whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted September 21, 2017 at 05:36 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 05:36 PM Once you are 'established' in another state, (change of address forms sent out, new driver's licence, etc.) you xerox copy your foid and CCL for your own records, (for just in case reference). Then, deliver your FOID, with a letter explaining that you have moved and need to cancel the FOID directly to the State Police in Springfield. Your CCL is delivered directly to your (Present) local Chief Law Enforcement Agency with that same letter. Get the receipt for the CCL. The local police agency will deliver the CCL to Springfield. IF the move is long distance, you would of course want to do all this before the move. IF you are moving just across the state line, then a 20 minute drive back to IL after the move wouldn't be that hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ming Posted September 21, 2017 at 05:37 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 05:37 PM Do you think they will come after you if you don't? This would be near the bottom of my list of worries if I were moving. Not that I'm recommending that you break any laws however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6010 Posted September 21, 2017 at 05:40 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 05:40 PM If you never plan on coming back to IL its doesn't matter. Just leave and say good riddance to FOID cards. They will figure it out and cancel it all on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 21, 2017 at 08:00 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 08:00 PM There are some who have reported receiving a letter from the ISP telling them they must return them or a warrant may be issued. Dont know if they returned them or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted September 21, 2017 at 08:18 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 08:18 PM Can someone please cite the statute that states it is a crime to become a resident of another state without returning these documents to the state of Illinois? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:20 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:20 PM I don't believe that you have to turn in your FOID card if you move and become ineligible to possess one. But under 430 ILCS 66/70 (g) you are required to turn in your FCCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:30 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:30 PM If the state wants it let them come to your house and get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:30 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:30 PM I don't believe that you have to turn in your FOID card if you move and become ineligible to possess one. But under 430 ILCS 66/70 (g) you are required to turn in your FCCL.I wonder if they were really considering "revoked" in the sense of someone moving out of state when they wrote this...(like an LE in MO or ID is going to jump right on sending that back to ISP) http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=043000660K70 (g) A licensee whose license is revoked, suspended, or denied shall, within 48 hours of receiving notice of the revocation, suspension, or denial, surrender his or her concealed carry license to the local law enforcement agency where the person resides. The local law enforcement agency shall provide the licensee a receipt and transmit the concealed carry license to the Department of State Police. If the licensee whose concealed carry license has been revoked, suspended, or denied fails to comply with the requirements of this subsection, the law enforcement agency where the person resides may petition the circuit court to issue a warrant to search for and seize the concealed carry license in the possession and under the custody or control of the licensee whose concealed carry license has been revoked, suspended, or denied. The observation of a concealed carry license in the possession of a person whose license has been revoked, suspended, or denied constitutes a sufficient basis for the arrest of that person for violation of this subsection. A violation of this subsection is a Class A misdemeanor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmk Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:39 PM Author Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:39 PM Well, I am already in my new state and is it a distance, so returning the FOID to the State Police is going to have to be by mail, Can I hand them both over to my local Agency and they forward they to the ILSP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:50 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 09:50 PM Well, I am already in my new state and is it a distance, so returning the FOID to the State Police is going to have to be by mail, Can I hand them both over to my local Agency and they forward they to the ILSP?Could just wait for a letter from the ISP once your DL change is processed and see what they tell you to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackersmacker Posted September 21, 2017 at 10:19 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 10:19 PM What if the cards get lost in a boating accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 21, 2017 at 10:22 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 10:22 PM Well, I am already in my new state and is it a distance, so returning the FOID to the State Police is going to have to be by mail, Can I hand them both over to my local Agency and they forward they to the ILSP?As suggested I would wait for the ISP to contact you about the revocation of your cards. Would you please let us know if they want both cards back or just the FCCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted September 21, 2017 at 10:38 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 10:38 PM What if the cards get lost in a boating accident.Then they will no doubt make you pay the $85 + convenience fees to apply for replacements, then deny request as you are no longer eligible and then file a warrant because they were not returned... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted September 21, 2017 at 11:03 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 11:03 PM Why is it so hard to just grab an envelope and place a stamp or two on it and mail it to the ISP?The whole hassle of making comments about f'em, come and get it, warrants and such makes the community in Illinois at large look bad. We're the good guys right? Just turn it in and be done, it's not like it serves any purpose to complain for all the years that illinois has had the FOID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted September 21, 2017 at 11:28 PM Share Posted September 21, 2017 at 11:28 PM Why is it so hard to just grab an envelope and place a stamp or two on it and mail it to the ISP?The whole hassle of making comments about f'em, come and get it, warrants and such makes the community in Illinois at large look bad. We're the good guys right?Just turn it in and be done, it's not like it serves any purpose to complain for all the years that illinois has had the FOID.To answer your question about just mailing the cards. Please read Post #9. Once you get revoked they require you to turn your FCCL into local law enforcement within a specified time frame. Plus you get a receipt to prove that your card was turned in within that time frame. What happens if he just mails his FCCL and it gets lost in the mail. How does he prove that he mailed it in and within the allotted time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teufel Hunden Posted September 22, 2017 at 01:29 AM Share Posted September 22, 2017 at 01:29 AM Why is it so hard to just grab an envelope and place a stamp or two on it and mail it to the ISP?The whole hassle of making comments about f'em, come and get it, warrants and such makes the community in Illinois at large look bad. We're the good guys right? Just turn it in and be done, it's not like it serves any purpose to complain for all the years that illinois has had the FOID.The statute states that you have 48 hours to return the FCCL upon notification of revocation. What if they haven't received any such notice? Also, you don't find it a little odd that essentially the state of Illinois is taking the position that they are going to be imposing their laws on someone that is not 1) a resident of the state of Illinois 2) within the jurisdiction of the state of Illinois. I can see that if someone has lived in Illinois for some time, paid ridiculous taxes and been made to feel like they are one of the king's subjects, they might be reluctant to just give up the freedom they have gained in their new state of residence. Also, Isn't this kind of like the state of New York telling you that you are subject to their AWB even though you aren't a resident of NY or in the state of NY? Are you going to comply if they tell you that you can't have a firearm that they consider forbidden? "Because I said so." was a valid reason when I was a child. It is no longer a valid reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awan Posted September 22, 2017 at 01:44 AM Share Posted September 22, 2017 at 01:44 AM After moving out of state, I received a letter from the ISP threatening to issue a warrant for my arrest, if I didn't return my FOID and CCL. They revoked my FOID because I was no longer an Illinois resident, thus my CCL was also invalid. See the following: http://illinoiscarry...90#entry1038810 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumpnpump Posted September 22, 2017 at 12:32 PM Share Posted September 22, 2017 at 12:32 PM I just moved out of state in March. When Michigan issued me a driver's license, they had to void my Illinois DL and notifying Illinois authorities. I saved my foid and ccl cards in the remote event that litigation in Illinois ever provided for a situation that I might be able to use CCL at some time in the future. I know legislation will never happen to allow me to do so. I take those cards out and look at them occasionally and realize what a good move leaving Illinois was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted September 22, 2017 at 05:08 PM Share Posted September 22, 2017 at 05:08 PM Can a moderator make this thread a sticky since this question comes up every few months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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