mauserme Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:21 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:21 AM Update: Amend 47 to HB1155 (Registry of transfers): Lost 50/59/1 Amend 48 to HB1155 (Firearm specific training): Lost 50/62/0 Amend 49 to HB1155 (Single firearm): Lost 52/61/0 Amend 50 to HB1155 (No carry in restaurants) : Adopted 67/44/0 Amend 51 to HB1155 ($1M Insurance): Lost 34/74/3 Amend 52 to HB1155 (Presumes local LEO objects): Adopted 84/29/1 Amend 53 to HB1155 (Delays implementation): Lost 48/62/1 HB11151 moved to third reading The House stands adjourned. ------------------------------------------------------ In the House Friday and Monday, 9 more amendments were filed on HB1155, 2 more on HB1156 and one additional amendment was filed on HB1157. As indicated below we oppose all but one of these amendments. All three bills are on Weekly Order of Business today. Please call your representative to voice your position on these new amendments, or simply reiterate "No Bad Bills - No Bad Amendments" HB1155Amend 45 - OpposeAmend 46 - OpposeAmend 47 - OpposeAmend 48 - OpposeAmend 49 - OpposeAmend 50 - OpposeAmend 51 - OpposeAmend 52 - OpposeAmend 53 - Oppose HB1156Amend 12 - OpposeAmend 13 - Support HB1157Amend 10 - Oppose In floor action Friday, HA1 to HB1651 Wildlife Tech was adopted and the bill was moved to third reading. This would allow the taking of fur bearing animlas with slugs. In committee today are 2 interesting offerings from the Chicago contingent: proposed bans on lion meat and on canned hunting. So far, it appears only the sponsor has not had to google the term "canned hunting". Tomorrow brings another round of Judiciary hearings on firearm bills. Please remember to file witness slips as outlined here if you have not already done so. In response to Buzzard's suggestion, I'll edit updates into this post as the day progresses so check back for recaps.
mauserme Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:21 AM Author Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:21 AM The House is scheduled for 12:00 Noon and the Senate for 11:00 AM. House Calendar 12:00 Noon House Audio/Video Link How a Bill Becomes a LawLivestream Link to current and archived events. HB807 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the unlawful possession of firearms and firearm ammunition HB808 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the defacing of identification marks on a firearm HB809 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning firearms. HB817 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the short title HB997 Concealed Carry-Firearms Support (see individual amendments) House Sponsor: Phelps, Sullivan, Beiser, Costello, Verschoore, Cloonen, Unes, Smiddy, Bradley, Scherer, Hammond, Tracy, Harms, Halbrook, Cabello, Jackson, Bost, Reis, Rosenthal, Osmond, Chapa LaVia, Cavaletto, Brown, Demmer, Sosnowski, Kay, Leitch, Sommer, Sacia, Pritchard, Roth, Morrison, Hays, Meier, Davidsmeyer, Mitchell, Sandack, Poe, Brauer, Moffitt, Ives, Wheeler, McSweeney, Senger, Reboletti, Tryon, Brady, Harris Status: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Creates the Family and Personal Protection Act. Provides that the Department of State Police shall issue a license to a person to: (1) carry a loaded or unloaded handgun on or about his or her person, concealed or otherwise; (2) keep or carry a loaded or unloaded handgun on or about his or her person when in a vehicle; and (3) keep a loaded or unloaded handgun openly or concealed in a vehicle. Prohibits the carrying of the handgun in certain locations. Provides that the license shall be issued by the Department of State Police within 30 days of receipt of a completed application and shall be valid throughout the State for a period of 5 years from the date of issuance. Provides for renewal of licenses. Establishes qualifications for licensees, certified firearms instructors, and instructor trainers. Provides for home rule preemption. Provides that the provisions of the Act are severable. Amends the Freedom of Information Act. Prohibits from inspection and copying information about applications for licenses to carry a handgun and about license holders contained in the database created by the Family and Personal Protection Act, except as authorized by that Act. Amends the State Finance Act and the Criminal Code of 2012 to make conforming changes. Effective immediately. House Amendment 1 - Currie - Establishes "gun free" zones (state government) - Oppose House Amendment 2 - Zalewski[/color - Esablishes "gun free" zones (restaurants) - Oppose House Amendment 3 - Jakobsson - Establishes "gun free" zones (colleges) - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Zalewski - Increased Penalties - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Currie - "influence of any illegal drugs or hallucinogenic drugs or alcohol.". - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Zalewski - Requires firearms to be broken down while transporting in a vehicle - Oppose House Amendment 7 - Currie - 40 hour training requirement at ISP run facility - Oppose House Amendment 8 - Lang - Allows counties and municipalites to enact greater restrictions - Oppose HB1155 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral (see individual amendments) House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the unlawful use of weapons. House Amendment 1 - Phelps - Names the Act - Support House Amendment 2 - Zalewski - Establishes "gun free" zones (schools) - Oppose House Amendment 3 - Burke[/color - Esablishes "gun free" zones (day care) - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Currie - Establishes "gun free" zones (state government) - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Lang - Establishes "gun free" zones (gaming) - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Jakobsson - Establishes "gun free" zones (health care) - Oppose House Amendment 7 - Lang - Establishes "gun free" zones (libraries) - Oppose House Amendment 8 - Feigenholtz - Establishes "gun free" zones (arenas) - Oppose House Amendment 9 - Cassidy - Establishes "gun free" zones (amusement parks) - Oppose House Amendment 14 - Mell - Establishes "gun free" zones (public transportation) - Oppose House Amendment 27 - Phelps - HB997 language - Support House Amendment 38 - Davis. Will - Registration - Oppose House Amendment 40 - Zalewski - Locked Storage - Oppose House Amendment 42 - Acevedo - Lost or Stolen - Oppose House Amendment 45 - Drury - Attempts to moot the 7CA decision in Moore with indefinite implemention dates - Oppose House Amendment 46 - Drury - Doubles the cost of the FOID card - Oppose House Amendment 47 - Mitchell, Christian - Establishes a registry of transfers with the ISP - Oppose House Amendment 48 - Ford - Firearm specific training - Oppose House Amendment 49 - Arroyo - Limits carry to a single firearm - Oppose House Amendment 50 - Williams - Prohibits carry in restaurants - Oppose House Amendment 51 - Dunkin - Requires $1,000,000 insurance - Oppose House Amendment 52 - Martwick - Presumes local law enforcement objects to a carry application when no objection is raised - Oppose House Amendment 53 - Drury - Attempts to moot the 7CA decision in Moore with indefinite implemention dates - Oppose HB1156 Criminal Law-Tech Oppose (see individual amendments) House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning exemptions from the statutes concerning unlawful use of weapons and aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. House Amendment 1 - Acevedo - Creates the Illinois Assaut Weapons Act - Oppose House Amendment 2 - Acevedo - Bans common firearms - Oppose House Amendment 3 - Sims - Bans common firearms - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Currie - Bans common firearms - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Zalewski - Magazine ban - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Cassidy - Locked storage required - Oppose House Amendment 11 - Durkin - Magazine Ban - Oppose House Amendment 12 - Zalewski - Magazine ban/registration - Oppose House Amendment 13 - Phelps - Preemption regarding fees and taxes - Support HB1157 Criminal Law-Tech Oppose House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning exemptions from the statutes concerning unlawful use of weapons and aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. House Amendment 1 - Davis, Will - Creates the Illninois Firearm Safety Act - Oppose House Amendment 2 - Davis, Will - Registration - Oppose House Amendment 3- Sims - Mental Health Evaluation - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Zalewski - Locked Storage - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Feigenholtz - Mental Health/Relatives and Acquaintances - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Acevedo - Lost or Stolen - Oppose House Amendment 7 - Currie - Mental Health/Increased Fees - Oppose House Amendment 8 - Cassidy - Health Care Reporting Required - Oppose House Amendment 10 - Mitchell, Christian - Creates a registry of transfers - Oppose HB2265 Crim Cd-Firearm Offenses Oppose House Sponsor: Zalewski, Sims, Acevedo, Drury, Welch, Cabello, DeLuca, Cassidy, KifowitStatus: Second Reading House Amendment 1 Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Reinserts the provisions of the Bill. Changes penalties for aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. Provides that it is an affirmative defense to the offense of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon for not holding a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card that the defendant has, prior to the commission of the offense, submitted a Firearm Owner's Identification Card renewal application to the Department of State Police and the defendant is otherwise eligible for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card. Balanced Budget Note (Office of Management and Budget) HB 2265 has a direct fiscal impact to the Illinois Department of Corrections. The total impact of HB 2265 would result in an increase of 3,860 inmates, with additional operating costs of $701,712,300 and construction costs of $263,130,300 over a ten year period. House Committee(s) House Agriculture & Conservation Committee - 3:00 PM HA1 to HB2574 Veteran-Hunting Competency Req HB3118 Wildlife-Canned Hunting Ban Next Days Scheduled House: 3/20/2013Senate: 3/20/2013 House Calendar 3-19-2013.pdf
mauserme Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:21 AM Author Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:21 AM Several shell bills are scheduled in committee today. I am not listing them at this time but will continue to monitor them There is no firearm related activity scheduled for floor debate in the Senate today Senate Committee(s) Senate Agriculture and Conservation Committee - 1:00 PM SB1942 Wildlife Cd-Crossbow Age Senate Calendar 3-19-2013.pdf Senate Supplemental Calendar 1 3-19-2013.pdf
blazzinbird Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:56 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 05:56 AM Thank you More shell bills huh.. I guess they are trying to prolong this till June.
skinnyb82 Posted March 19, 2013 at 06:39 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 06:39 AM HAs 45 and 53 are the same thing and HA52 is a crock of ****. Presumes that local law enforcement does object if it doesn't object? Oh, yes, and that's not designed to keep Chicago residents from getting a permit if McCarthy happens to fail to object to one application and it makes it to the ISP. I knew they'd find a way. They tried this crap with the CFP, it was kicked to the curb. They barred all non-violent misdemeanors from obtaining a CFP, oops, nope, unconstitutional just like that one and gang? Seriously? Gangbangers don't apply for an LTC. Madigan Theater, brought to you by Michael Madigan. Enjoy the show.
C0untZer0 Posted March 19, 2013 at 06:45 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 06:45 AM Here is a list of all of the representatives who have introduced anti-2a bills or amendments in the last 2 weeks, and I believe that all of the representatives who appear in today's thread as having intorduced anti-gun legislation are included in this e-mail list: AcevedoLuis ArroyoKelly BurkeCassidyCurrieWilliam DavisScott DruryKenneth DunkinFeigenholtzLa Shawn FordJakobssonLangRobert MartwickMellChristian MitchellSimsAnn WilliamsZalewski repacevedo@sbcglobal.net, RepDistrict3@gmail.com, kellyb@ilga.gov, repcassidy@gmail.com, bfc15@aol.com, repwilldavis@sbcglobal.net, repdrury@gmail.com, sara@staterepsara.com, kendunkin@msn.com, feigenholtz@ilga.gov, lkf@ilga.gov, naomi@naomijakobsson.com, langli@ilga.gov, mmadigan@hds.ilga.gov, repmartwick@gmail.com, deb@debmell.org, christianmitchell26th@gmail.com, MitchellDistrict26@att.net, Repsims34@gmail.com, repzalewski@gmail.com, ann@repannwilliams.com, michaelz@ilga.gov
ADANK Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM Thanks for keeping it all so organized for everybody, much appreciated!
Beezil Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:30 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:30 AM "canned hunting".....couldn't help but notice the passage "regardless of the cage/enclosures size......" So that can mean fence along a 640-acre property line on any illinois hunt club. So....it's a ban on any gun or sportsman's club that does ANY FORM of hunting.
mailterry Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM Mauserme.... Your information here every morning is invaluable . i can look here and plan my day . Thanks for the time you spend on this
Uncle Harley Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM Posted March 19, 2013 at 11:57 AM "canned hunting".....couldn't help but notice the passage "regardless of the cage/enclosures size......" So that can mean fence along a 640-acre property line on any illinois hunt club. So....it's a ban on any gun or sportsman's club that does ANY FORM of hunting. if that fence is used to keep animals in as apposed to people out then yes, this will also kill put and take bird hunts, and also the captive deer markets. Frankly this bill sucks, the deer business in IL alone is a muliti billion business.
Capt_Destro Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:03 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:03 PM "canned hunting".....couldn't help but notice the passage "regardless of the cage/enclosures size......" So that can mean fence along a 640-acre property line on any illinois hunt club. So....it's a ban on any gun or sportsman's club that does ANY FORM of hunting. if that fence is used to keep animals in as apposed to people out then yes, this will also kill put and take bird hunts, and also the captive deer markets. Frankly this bill sucks, the deer business in IL alone is a muliti billion business. Uncle it seems like they are crappy when it comes to our money. Taking into account the hunting industry and firearms manufacturing industry in Illinois. The Chicago machine seems more idiotic than Colorado at this point.
RoadyRunner Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:09 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:09 PM I like HA13 on HB1156 (Phelps) mainly because due to home rule preemption it raises the final needed vote for passage of 1156 to 3/5. Makes it *far* less likely they will get enough votes to pass it - if it is adopted that is. He should file this amendment on all of Madigans shell bills.
Capt_Destro Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM Best of luck gentleman, off to work.
Drylok Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM Kenneth DunkinI thought he was with us. I remember a post from Vandermyde saying to call and thank Dunkin and also Durkin for their support on atleast one of our issues. ?????
Hatchet Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM Since a plurality is all that is needed to pass an amendment, why don't we tack on an amend to each bill that the antis just can't stand but we can get the majority vote to kill their bills? Kinda like what they did with 997.
Beezil Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM Since a plurality is all that is needed to pass an amendment, why don't we tack on an amend to each bill that the antis just can't stand but we can get the majority vote to kill their bills? Kinda like what they did with 997. because doing so is a waste of time and resources. if a bill is bad, then a bill ougtha die an honorable death.....death by vote.
Geneseo1911 Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM Has anyone read Am 12 to 1156? It is a gut & replace amendment! It replaces everything after the enacting clause. I think this is the real magazine ban. Madigan got us nice & complacent with his mess of amendments and now they'll sneak the real one through.
StreuB1 Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM The more and more they push us. The more we come together as a cohesive group. The more coordinated our efforts become. The more we look less as a group of fanatics and more like an organized group of individuals. The more of a force to be reckoned with we become. Keep pushing us......it will only make us stronger, your fight harder and strengthen our personal resolve.
C0untZer0 Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM I've gotten a Facebook notification for the Mag Ban from Citizens Defense League of Chicago but not from ISRA or IllinoisCarry.com on Facebook. Do we have our Facebook effort going full steam ahead on this? BTW - I did get an urgent e-mail update from ISRA, but I'm specifically wondering about Facebook. EDIT: I did see the posts on ISRA and IllinoisCarry.com and I shared them on Facebook. But for some reason, the stories / posts are not showing up on my Facebook page automatically - I was receiving everything from ISRA/IC but now I'm not so I'll have to checkit out.
StreuB1 Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:07 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:07 PM I got nothing from ISRA Facebook or IllinoisCarry Facebook No email from ISRA either I did though get ASC to send an eBlast out to the Action Shooting Sports people and the ASC did an eBlast of the ISRA message. Thats the only way I got it other than here.
StreuB1 Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:11 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:11 PM Damn, had to reselect "Get Notifications" on their pages!!! What the hey!!!
C0untZer0 Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:18 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:18 PM Ya EVERY day I get their links / posts on my Facebook page and all of a sudden today - I get NOTHING !!!
TyGuy Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:43 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:43 PM I just created (feel free to destroy it mods) a discussion thread for today's activities to try and keep this one free from cluter. I really enjoy the live discussion while listening to the feed, but many have complained that the summary information is too difficult to find. Perhaps we can leave this thread alone for Mauser? http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=35770
abolt243 Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:45 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:45 PM Here is a list of all of the representatives who have introduced anti-2a bills or amendments in the last 2 weeks, and I believe that all of the representatives who appear in today's thread as having intorduced anti-gun legislation are included in this e-mail list: AcevedoLuis ArroyoKelly BurkeCassidyCurrieWilliam DavisScott DruryKenneth DunkinFeigenholtzLa Shawn FordJakobssonLangRobert MartwickMellChristian MitchellSimsAnn WilliamsZalewski repacevedo@sbcglobal.net, RepDistrict3@gmail.com, kellyb@ilga.gov, repcassidy@gmail.com, bfc15@aol.com, repwilldavis@sbcglobal.net, repdrury@gmail.com, sara@staterepsara.com, kendunkin@msn.com, feigenholtz@ilga.gov, lkf@ilga.gov, naomi@naomijakobsson.com, langli@ilga.gov, mmadigan@hds.ilga.gov, repmartwick@gmail.com, deb@debmell.org, christianmitchell26th@gmail.com, MitchellDistrict26@att.net, Repsims34@gmail.com, repzalewski@gmail.com, ann@repannwilliams.com, michaelz@ilga.gov A list of the most rabid anti-gunners and the lap dogs of Madigan (both of them). Drylok, as to your comments re: Dunkin, call me, I'd be glad to give you my take on him privately. To everyone else, watch his actions, and make up your own mind. Notice, there are 18 names in this list. That leaves 100 other members. We need 71 to pass our bill and veto Quinn. So, we've lost the 18 above, I wouldn't even bother emailing, calling or talking to them unless they're your rep. Nothing we can say will change their mind, but you can express your indignation at their refusal to even acknowledge your position as their constituent. So, we have 100 folks that we can work on, 48-58 of those are ultra solid, so then we're down to 42-52 that we need to convince and we only need 13-23 of those on our side. Break it down to numbers, put names with the numbers and work on those folks. Stay tough. Part of their strategy is to wear us down. They have staff to work on this stuff for them while they sleep and dine on our dime. They're hoping that most of us will do what some here have already done, said to heck with it and thrown in the towel, hoping for June 10 carry. Don't do it, stay tough, stay engaged, we will beat them at their own game. Pep talk for the morning. ABolt, Uncle Abolt, Tim, whatever else you want to call me.
cls74 Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:49 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:49 PM I had an update on my wall from Illinois carry. Urgent- Expect another huge push for magazine ban Quick question before the proceedings start, a preemption amendment will still only need a plurality to be adopted but will make the bill need te supermajority to pass? Or does the preemptive amendment need more votes to pass as well?
abolt243 Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:50 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:50 PM Amendments only take a plurality.
TyGuy Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:53 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:53 PM Wear us down? Every bill they file just makes me more passionate! *see ya'll over in the discussion thread, Seacrest out.
Professor Wheezy Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:57 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 01:57 PM AND Let the GAMES BEGIN!!
Professor Wheezy Posted March 19, 2013 at 02:02 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 02:02 PM "canned hunting".....couldn't help but notice the passage "regardless of the cage/enclosures size......" So that can mean fence along a 640-acre property line on any illinois hunt club. So....it's a ban on any gun or sportsman's club that does ANY FORM of hunting. if that fence is used to keep animals in as apposed to people out then yes, this will also kill put and take bird hunts, and also the captive deer markets. Frankly this bill sucks, the deer business in IL alone is a muliti billion business. Actually them instroducing this is EXACTLY what we needed. NOW we have PROOF to the "hunting gun crowd" that THEY NEED to be in thuis fight too. Its not just us 2nd Amendment Types or Black Gun Types. or CCW types. They want to destroy ALL aspects of gun ownership and gun culture PERIOD. So the next time a hunter says this does not concern them.... or the next time someone implies the 2nd amendment is about hunting just say "they want to end that too and here is PROOF."
Trent Posted March 19, 2013 at 02:11 PM Posted March 19, 2013 at 02:11 PM Please keep chatter here today in TyGuy's thread. Some of us won' be able to follow the live feed today, and if we keep THIS thread reserved for official updates/statuses it will REALLY help us. I have to work 12 hours today and won't have time tonight to go through 900+ posts to find out what the heck happened!!! http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=35770
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