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[Molly B.]

The time for renewing IL Concealed Carry Licenses will be here before we know it.  The course requirements are listed in the statute and on the ISP web page. New information may become available from the ISP and IllinoisCarry will make every effort to update this post at that time.

 

3-HOUR RENEWAL CURRICULUM
Renewal Firearm Curriculum must be at least 3 hours and include:
1.    All  applicable  State  and  Federal  laws  relating  to  the  ownership,  storage,  carry,  and  transportation  of  a  
firearm; 2 hours Classroom Recommended

     a. The Act relating to the ownership, storage, carry and transportation of a firearm
           1) with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/10(h) which includes instruction on the appropriate and lawful
            interaction with law enforcement while transporting or carrying a concealed firearm.
           2) with emphasis on 430 ILCS 66/65 which includes instruction on prohibited areas and the parking
          lot exception.
    b.  The FOID Act 430 ILCS 65/1 et. seq.
    c.  Relevant portions of the ILCS including but not limited to
1) 720 ILCS 5/7-1. Use of force in defense of a person**
2) 720 ILCS 5/7-2. Use of force in defense of dwelling**
3) 720 ILCS 5/7-3. Use of force in defense of other property**
4) 720 ILCS 24/1 et. seq. Unlawful Use of Weapons**
** Must define dwelling, aggressor, forcible felony and unlawful use of weapons pursuant to the ILCS.

2.   Weapon Handling; 1 hour Range Recommended
    a.  Handgun fundamentals

    b.  Handgun concealment

    c.  Live fire qualification instruction
    d.      Live fire qualification with a concealable firearm consisting of minimum of 30 rounds which must
include 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards; 10 rounds from a distance of 7 yards; and 10 rounds
from a distance of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette target approved by the Illinois State Police. (See
www.isp.state.il.us/firearms/ccw/ccw-faq.cfm)
 

[Hipshot Percussion]

Any other info like - 

1. How much in advance can we take our refresher course and does the certificate expire at any particular time?
2. How far in advance should we send in for our renewel?
3. Will our renewal date for the license run consecutively with the old one? Or will it start with the renewal? (Like, if I send it in 60 days before my expiration, will the new license use the new date if earlier? or the old date, so we don't lose any time.
4. Will it be a background check and done? Or will it be the complete process again - Fed, ISP and local ability to object?  This could be a real problem for Cook County people, in terms of giving the County a second shot at them.

[Molly B.]

Today, CCL instructors received the new certificate templates for the 3-hr renewal course and the regular 8/16 hrs. CCL course, along with instructor responsibilities packet, suggested roster, and suggested verification of prior training form.

 

If you are an instructor and did not receive the packet and templates, you should email the ISP instructor department and request the documents:

 

Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us

[semper1911]

Thank you, have not got it yet, will email them.

[Molly B.]

 

Any other info like - 

1. How much in advance can we take our refresher course and does the certificate expire at any particular time?
2. How far in advance should we send in for our renewel?
3. Will our renewal date for the license run consecutively with the old one? Or will it start with the renewal? (Like, if I send it in 60 days before my expiration, will the new license use the new date if earlier? or the old date, so we don't lose any time.
4. Will it be a background check and done? Or will it be the complete process again - Fed, ISP and local ability to object?  This could be a real problem for Cook County people, in terms of giving the County a second shot at them.

 

 

1. There is no rule on expiration of training. A new certificate was just issued to instructors so it should not expire any time soon either.

2. The renewal option on your CCL dashboard site will dictate this. IWe don't know yet when it will become active.

3. No idea - what do they do for the FOID? Does it renew from expiration date or renewal date?

4. I would bet it will be the full background check with window open to file objections, in case incidents have happened since the original application.  Yes, it could be a problem for Cook County residents.  We have discussed this with the ISP and Review Board counsel.

[STR8*SHOT]

CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx Jerry

[THE KING]

OMG, I expected this to take til the end of the year. VERY NICE.

 

I have one question. After July 1, 2018 they will no longer accept the old version of the 16 hour certificate. What happens if a student that has taken the class and has an old version of the certificate but doesn't apply until after July 1, 2018.

 

Will the ISP accept the old certificate or are we going to have to issue a new certificate with the original class date on it.

[John Q Public]

yYou get a background check everyday when you have a FOID and or CCL they run a background check every day.

Edited by John Q Public, 01 May 2018 - 03:00 PM.

[InterestedBystander]

yYou get a background check everyday when you have a FOID and or CCL they run a background check every day.

CCL also runs quarterly Federal checks.

[Molly B.]

CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx Jerry

 

CLIC curriculum is approved for the 3-hr. renewal course.

[Hipshot Percussion]

 

 

Any other info like - 

1. How much in advance can we take our refresher course and does the certificate expire at any particular time?
2. How far in advance should we send in for our renewel?
3. Will our renewal date for the license run consecutively with the old one? Or will it start with the renewal? (Like, if I send it in 60 days before my expiration, will the new license use the new date if earlier? or the old date, so we don't lose any time.
4. Will it be a background check and done? Or will it be the complete process again - Fed, ISP and local ability to object?  This could be a real problem for Cook County people, in terms of giving the County a second shot at them.

 

 

1. There is no rule on expiration of training. A new certificate was just issued to instructors so it should not expire any time soon either.

2. The renewal option on your CCL dashboard site will dictate this. IWe don't know yet when it will become active.

3. No idea - what do they do for the FOID? Does it renew from expiration date or renewal date?

4. I would bet it will be the full background check with window open to file objections, in case incidents have happened since the original application.  Yes, it could be a problem for Cook County residents.  We have discussed this with the ISP and Review Board counsel.

 

Thanks, Molly.

[howie]

Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold.  I'm beginning to see a pattern here.  E-mail sent.  Thanks Molly.  If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on.  I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor.  Anyone else having similar issues?

[THE KING]

Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold.  I'm beginning to see a pattern here.  E-mail sent.  Thanks Molly.  If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on.  I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor.  Anyone else having similar issues?

Check your Spam folder. I have had some emails go to Spam when they shouldn't have.

[howie]

 

Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold.  I'm beginning to see a pattern here.  E-mail sent.  Thanks Molly.  If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on.  I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor.  Anyone else having similar issues?

Check your Spam folder. I have had some emails go to Spam when they shouldn't have.

 

Nothing there, either.

[THE KING]

Once again, ISP has left me out in the cold.  I'm beginning to see a pattern here.  E-mail sent.  Thanks Molly.  If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't have a clue what's going on.  I've received one E-mail from ISP since I became an instructor.  Anyone else having similar issues?

Check your Spam folder. I have had some emails go to Spam when they shouldn't have.

Nothing there, either.

Well I tried.

[RacerDave6]

I didn't get it either.

[STR8*SHOT]

CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx Jerry

Plz let me rephrase. Will Illinois Carry have a CLIC power point presentation for the re-cert?

[Molly B.]

 

CLIC PROGRAM available for the three hour re-certification? Hope so. Plz Advz Thnx Jerry

Plz let me rephrase. Will Illinois Carry have a CLIC power point presentation for the re-cert?

 

 

At this point, it looks like it will be the same. . .

[Buff1968]

RE: Renewal dates. My FOID card renewal date is from the issued date not from the expires date on the old card. So I got shorted approx. 3 months on my renewal. Also, what is a good email address to get a response from ISP on FOID renewal? My new card was issued 4/23 and I have not received it yet.

[Molly B.]

RE: Renewal dates. My FOID card renewal date is from the issued date not from the expires date on the old card. So I got shorted approx. 3 months on my renewal. Also, what is a good email address to get a response from ISP on FOID renewal? My new card was issued 4/23 and I have not received it yet.

 

try: askfoid_askfoid@isp.state.il.us

[mjw45]

I just checked with the ISP and my curriculum is only good for 8/16hr training.

So I am off to get my 3hr curriculum application notarized.

 

All Instructors should probably check with the ISP what their curriculum is approved for.

Just email-

 

Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us

 

with your curriculum number for them to check.

 

Matt

 

 

Molly B. - or check the approved curriculum list posted on the ISP website..

Edited by Molly B., 03 May 2018 - 12:52 PM.

[Craigcelia]

Or check this list (for the curriculum)

https://ispfsb.com/P...riculumList.pdf

Edited by Craigcelia, 03 May 2018 - 12:10 PM.

[InterestedBystander]

I just checked with the ISP and my curriculum is only good for 8/16hr training.
So I am off to get my 3hr curriculum application notarized.
 
All Instructors should probably check with the ISP what their curriculum is approved for.
Just email-
 
Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us
 
with your curriculum number for them to check.
 
Matt

While a few months old, there is also a November report on the ISP web site https://ispfsb.com/P...riculumList.pdf

edit: beat by Craig while I was finding report URL

Edited by InterestedBystander, 03 May 2018 - 12:12 PM.

[aka]

Today, CCL instructors received the new certificate templates for the 3-hr renewal course and the regular 8/16 hrs. CCL course, along with instructor responsibilities packet, suggested roster, and suggested verification of prior training form.

 

If you are an instructor and did not receive the packet and templates, you should email the ISP instructor department and request the documents:

 

Instructor_Docs@isp.state.il.us

 

ISP sent out corrected / updated forms for the 3 hours and 16 hour on May 2nd. The original forms were sent on May 1st. if you did not receive the corrected forms please let ISP know, 

 

Molly - do you have any information about CCL Renewals for instructors?

 

Thanks. 

[Molly B.]

 

ISP sent out corrected / updated forms for the 3 hours and 16 hour on May 2nd. The original forms were sent on May 1st. if you did not receive the corrected forms please let ISP know, 

 

Molly - do you have any information about CCL Renewals for instructors?

 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

I am assuming there will be a box to select exemption from the training requirement and a place to upload teaching credentials instead of a CCL training certificate. I am also assuming the option to renew will appear about 90 days before expiration - since our fingerprints are already on file.

 

 It would be nice if the ISP would send out a notice to instructors. We'll see how this plays out.

[Hatchet]

So if we didn't submit finger prints the first time around, do we have to this time or is it still optional? I remember this being discussed after the law passed but can't find it now.

[InterestedBystander]

So if we didn't submit finger prints the first time around, do we have to this time or is it still optional? I remember this being discussed after the law passed but can't find it now.

Still optional. Mandatory prints bill has not passed...not even sure if it got to or out of committee.

edit HB4700 and HB4168 never made it to committee

Edited by InterestedBystander, 07 May 2018 - 11:51 AM.

[RobR369]

Has anyone heard about what the instructors will be charging for the refresher courses?

[John Q Public]

Has anyone heard about what the instructors will be charging for the refresher courses?

 

Looks like from $50 to $75 is what I see out there. 

[Craigcelia]

Has anyone heard about what the instructors will be charging for the refresher courses?

To each his or her own, but we are charging $50 per person, no range fees, and already have classes posted in Morris.

 

http://www.safegunpe...m/services.html