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#4291 jawman

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 09:11 AM

 

Day 1, 2/11/2019: Applied for renewal without prints. Original license expired 5/5/2019.
Day 121, 6/12/2019: Wrote both State Rep and Senator asking to have license approved as state was breaking its own law not having approved within required time.
Day 122 morning, 6/13/2019: Checked ISP website in the morning, still Under Review, same for Inspect element.. 
Day 122 afternoon, 6/13/2019: Checked again same day later on in the afternoon, now Active.
Day 126, 6/17/2019: Received new card in mail.

It's important to note that I checked the ISP website regularly, as well as the Inspect Element trick to see if there was any movement behind the scenes on the website. Absolutely no change in status whatsoever on the website nor within the web code from Day 1 until the switch to Active on Day 122. Both the website and web code stayed stuck on "Under Review" the entire wait time. So the Inspect trick doesn't always work.

Total wait time until card in hand: 126 days, no prints.

@Jawman did you get a response from the State Rep or Senator, do you think that helped?

 

I applied for my renewal on 3/13/2019 and as of this morning it's still "Under Review"

 

I am expired at this point..

 

Yes, I did get a reply from one of the assistants who works with State Rep Sara Feigenholtz on 6/14 (1 business day after I wrote them) saying that they would follow up with their contact at the ISP, however my licensed had just been marked Active on the evening of 6/13, so I'm not sure if they did anything. But at least they responded promptly, so it doesn't hurt to write them.

 

Your license is still valid even upon expiration, so long as you applied for renewal before it expired. So yes your license remains active during the renewal process (renewals only, not new applicants). I printed out the ISP page to show that I applied for renewal and was waiting for the new license, and carried that in my wallet, as well as bookmarked the law on my phone in case any ignorant police officers questioned me.

Just make sure to check the site often to make sure it's still under review while you are carrying. Although rare, you don't want it to switch to "Denied" and you kept on carrying because you thought it was still under review because you hadn't checked up on the website in a while. Annoying to have to check regularly, but just my 2 cents. The state will drag its feet to do their part, but if you make a mistake due to their negligence and laziness, surely they will arrest you and prosecute you for carrying "illegally".

 

The long wait times are annoying, but the good thing about them is, you could apply for renewal the day before expiration, and if it takes them 4 months to approve, that's 4 months of free carry. So like Bubbacs said, what's the rush? 


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Posted 20 June 2019 - 09:39 AM

I renewed on 3/19/19 , ( no prints submitted either time )

 

expired 4/18/19

 

Still under review .  I'm in no hurry and not even checking very often.  I figure I will know when I get the mail and a new card is there.



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 10:22 AM

The long wait times are annoying, but the good thing about them is, you could apply for renewal the day before expiration, and if it takes them 4 months to approve, that's 4 months of free carry. So like Bubbacs said, what's the rush?


The governor has not signed yet, but they passed legislation to change it to 5 years from CCL expire date instead of date of issue.
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Posted 20 June 2019 - 10:32 AM

@InterestedBystander I have not heard of this, and am an ISRA member and read all of their email alerts, so I must have missed that one. That is some BS. Good thing I just got my license this week and the 5 year exp date was based on starting from when it was activated (6/13/2019). Could you kindly provide a link to where I can read more on this change? If that passes, then that means most people will wait until the day before their license expires to submit a renewal, so long as license remains active during renewal period. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they also tried to change it to not being able to carry while it's in renewal.


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Posted 20 June 2019 - 12:25 PM

Could you kindly provide a link to where I can read more on this change?

SB1139
http://ilga.gov/legi...onID=108&GA=101

HFA 2 added a few things to the original eavesdropping bill. 6 months to implement once enacted.

..."Provides that a concealed carry license shall be renewed for a period of 5 years from the date of expiration on the applicant's current license upon the applicant completing the necessary requirements under the Act. "...

5/27/2019 Senate Secretary's Desk - Concurrence House Amendment(s) 2
5/27/2019 Senate Placed on Calendar Order of Concurrence House Amendment(s) 2 - May 28, 2019
5/28/2019 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 2 Motion to Concur Filed with Secretary Sen. Antonio Muñoz
5/28/2019 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 2 Motion to Concur Referred to Assignments
5/29/2019 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 2 Motion to Concur Assignments Referred to Criminal Law
5/29/2019 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 2 Motion To Concur Recommended Do Adopt Criminal Law; 007-000-000
5/31/2019 Senate House Floor Amendment No. 2 Senate Concurs 058-000-000
5/31/2019 Senate Senate Concurs
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Posted 21 June 2019 - 10:28 AM

question about ccl app applied for foid change of address and ccl 5/7 2019 it wasnt until new foid went active on 5/25 that it gave me option to change address /report lost or stolen, My ccl status has not changed staying at under review when i checked 6/19 website is giving option to change address/reportlost/stolen checking inspect element has not changed will they give that option before card is approved?



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Posted 24 June 2019 - 11:36 AM

KG1982-I noticed the same thing today. I applied for CCL (first time applicant) on 3/4/19 without prints. Hoping the new radio buttons indicate progress!



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Posted 25 June 2019 - 12:39 AM

Day 51 w/o prints... It is setting in that I will not receive my CCL before I leave for school.

Also, a friend of mine just got his FOID: 5/22 applied, 6/20 in hand.



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Posted 26 June 2019 - 11:12 AM

I'm currently at 134 days, waiting on CCL (Under Review - Submitted)
 
February 12th: Applied for CCL without prints
May 31st: FOID Renewal applied for. FOID Expiration is 8/1/2019. I don't know what the inspect element was showing, as I didn't know about this yet.
(108 days into CCL wait)
June 13th: Found info here about checking the inspect element and CCL is showing Under Review (Submitted)
(121 days into CCL wait)
Both FOID Renewal and CCL are showing same application number. Logic tells me that the ISP system tied my FOID Renewal and CCL applications together since CCL is still showing (or reverted to) Submitted status. This seemed to be confirmed while going through the forums and seeing references to people having the same/similar issues due to renewing their FOID while waiting for CCL.
 
My questions are:
1 - Am I to assume that because of the FOID renewal that at least an extra 48 days could have been added to my CCL wait time? 
2 - Given that I was 108 days into the CCL wait period, could one assume that the CCL investigations were complete or nearly complete?
3 - If answer to #2 is yes, why couldn't the ISP just use the same CCL investigation information towards the FOID renewal?
4 - Should I just expect that I won't see either FOID or CCL until somewhere around July 30th (168 days or later)?

Edited by Kurewe, 26 June 2019 - 11:13 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2019 - 11:54 AM

I'm currently at 134 days, waiting on CCL (Under Review - Submitted)
 
February 12th: Applied for CCL without prints
May 31st: FOID Renewal applied for. FOID Expiration is 8/1/2019. I don't know what the inspect element was showing, as I didn't know about this yet.
(108 days into CCL wait)
June 13th: Found info here about checking the inspect element and CCL is showing Under Review (Submitted)
(121 days into CCL wait)
Both FOID Renewal and CCL are showing same application number. Logic tells me that the ISP system tied my FOID Renewal and CCL applications together since CCL is still showing (or reverted to) Submitted status. This seemed to be confirmed while going through the forums and seeing references to people having the same/similar issues due to renewing their FOID while waiting for CCL.
 
My questions are:
1 - Am I to assume that because of the FOID renewal that at least an extra 48 days could have been added to my CCL wait time? 
2 - Given that I was 108 days into the CCL wait period, could one assume that the CCL investigations were complete or nearly complete?
3 - If answer to #2 is yes, why couldn't the ISP just use the same CCL investigation information towards the FOID renewal?
4 - Should I just expect that I won't see either FOID or CCL until somewhere around July 30th (168 days or later)?


Reviewing FOID card while CCL is under review will extend the time frame.
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Posted 26 June 2019 - 12:46 PM

 

I'm currently at 134 days, waiting on CCL (Under Review - Submitted)
 
February 12th: Applied for CCL without prints
May 31st: FOID Renewal applied for. FOID Expiration is 8/1/2019. I don't know what the inspect element was showing, as I didn't know about this yet.
(108 days into CCL wait)
June 13th: Found info here about checking the inspect element and CCL is showing Under Review (Submitted)
(121 days into CCL wait)
Both FOID Renewal and CCL are showing same application number. Logic tells me that the ISP system tied my FOID Renewal and CCL applications together since CCL is still showing (or reverted to) Submitted status. This seemed to be confirmed while going through the forums and seeing references to people having the same/similar issues due to renewing their FOID while waiting for CCL.
 
My questions are:
1 - Am I to assume that because of the FOID renewal that at least an extra 48 days could have been added to my CCL wait time? 
2 - Given that I was 108 days into the CCL wait period, could one assume that the CCL investigations were complete or nearly complete?
3 - If answer to #2 is yes, why couldn't the ISP just use the same CCL investigation information towards the FOID renewal?
4 - Should I just expect that I won't see either FOID or CCL until somewhere around July 30th (168 days or later)?

 

 

Done the same

 

CCL renewal submitted 1/12/19 expired 4/15/2019

Foid renewal submitted 5/6/19 expires 8/1/19

 

We will see maybe 9-10 months?

 

Carry on for free

 

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 01:14 PM

 

 

I'm currently at 134 days, waiting on CCL (Under Review - Submitted)
 
February 12th: Applied for CCL without prints
May 31st: FOID Renewal applied for. FOID Expiration is 8/1/2019. I don't know what the inspect element was showing, as I didn't know about this yet.
(108 days into CCL wait)
June 13th: Found info here about checking the inspect element and CCL is showing Under Review (Submitted)
(121 days into CCL wait)
Both FOID Renewal and CCL are showing same application number. Logic tells me that the ISP system tied my FOID Renewal and CCL applications together since CCL is still showing (or reverted to) Submitted status. This seemed to be confirmed while going through the forums and seeing references to people having the same/similar issues due to renewing their FOID while waiting for CCL.
 
My questions are:
1 - Am I to assume that because of the FOID renewal that at least an extra 48 days could have been added to my CCL wait time? 
2 - Given that I was 108 days into the CCL wait period, could one assume that the CCL investigations were complete or nearly complete?
3 - If answer to #2 is yes, why couldn't the ISP just use the same CCL investigation information towards the FOID renewal?
4 - Should I just expect that I won't see either FOID or CCL until somewhere around July 30th (168 days or later)?

 

 

Done the same

 

CCL renewal submitted 1/12/19 expired 4/15/2019

Foid renewal submitted 5/6/19 expires 8/1/19

 

We will see maybe 9-10 months?

 

Carry on for free

 

Bilder

 

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but the "carry for free" thing only applies to those doing a renewal? Based on the wording I think Kurewe is a first time applicant. If the ISP are as dumb as I think they are (at least on policy) then the FOID is going to pause the CCL process. 108 into CCL, paused for the 60ish day FOID renewal, then another 30ish for CCL to finish processing. I definitely would have waited for the CCL to finish. In ANY OTHER STATE you could get a suppressor in that same time window FOR LESS MONEY in taxes and fees.



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Posted 26 June 2019 - 05:16 PM

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but the "carry for free" thing only applies to those doing a renewal? Based on the wording I think Kurewe is a first time applicant. If the ISP are as dumb as I think they are (at least on policy) then the FOID is going to pause the CCL process. 108 into CCL, paused for the 60ish day FOID renewal, then another 30ish for CCL to finish processing. I definitely would have waited for the CCL to finish. In ANY OTHER STATE you could get a suppressor in that same time window FOR LESS MONEY in taxes and fees.

 

 

You are correct Sasquatch. I'm not renewing my CCL. I am going through initial application. I contemplated waiting to renew the FOID until I had the CCL in hand. However, not trusting the state to get me the CCL in a timely manner, I chose to not chance waiting until the last minute to renew.



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Posted 27 June 2019 - 02:54 PM

Can some one explain how the inspect element works pls? Thanks

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 05:58 PM

Can some one explain how the inspect element works pls? Thanks

 

As far as I know, and the way I have been checking, is as follows...

Log into the ISP page "Returning Applicants or Licensees Sign In"

On the "Application Summary" page, right click on the words "Under Review" and select "Inspect"

I use Chrome, so a window opens up on the right side of the page and it should be highlighted/focused on the Under Review status.

In that window, just to the left of "Under Review", it should say something like Submitted, QC_Verified or Approved.



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Posted 27 June 2019 - 08:08 PM

Can some one explain how the inspect element works pls? Thanks

 
As far as I know, and the way I have been checking, is as follows...
Log into the ISP page "Returning Applicants or Licensees Sign In"
On the "Application Summary" page, right click on the words "Under Review" and select "Inspect"
I use Chrome, so a window opens up on the right side of the page and it should be highlighted/focused on the Under Review status.
In that window, just to the left of "Under Review", it should say something like Submitted, QC_Verified or Approved.

Ok so what website exactly should i log into? I tried finding that section but i couldnt find it

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 08:12 PM

Ohh ok i c what your saying. What if it only says under review? It doesnt say submitted or approved or anything. Why would it be different?

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 08:32 PM

Ohh ok i c what your saying. What if it only says under review? It doesnt say submitted or approved or anything. Why would it be different?

From what I have seen and understand, it will show something like what I described. 

As you can see in this image from another post: Click here for image

If you don't see something like what you see in the image, you may be missing a step, or may want to try a different browser like Chrome.



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Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:38 PM

Ohh ok i c what your saying. What if it only says under review? It doesnt say submitted or approved or anything. Why would it be different?

From what I have seen and understand, it will show something like what I described. 
As you can see in this image from another post: Click here for image
If you don't see something like what you see in the image, you may be missing a step, or may want to try a different browser like Chrome.

Ok sounds great ima give it another try!

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Posted 28 June 2019 - 09:21 PM

Day 130 today on a new permit....I'm betting if I was late on my drivers license renewel or license plate sticker I'd get an F'ing ticket.

What recourse do I have?


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Posted 28 June 2019 - 10:42 PM

None

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Posted 29 June 2019 - 07:40 AM

Day 130 today on a new permit....I'm betting if I was late on my drivers license renewel or license plate sticker I'd get an F'ing ticket.
What recourse do I have?

Contact your state Senator and/or Representative. May or may not help.
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Posted 29 June 2019 - 09:48 AM

I emailed my state representative over a week ago and never heard anything.so good luck going to yours hahaha

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Posted 29 June 2019 - 09:04 PM

Applied 2/2018
Denied: 6/2018
Appealed: 6/2018
Under review since: 6/2018

Have sent in appeal paperwork/supporting documents etc. The state is a joke. Waiting almost a year and a half goes far beyond the absurd line.

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Posted 01 July 2019 - 12:20 PM

 

 

I'm currently at 134 days, waiting on CCL (Under Review - Submitted)
 
February 12th: Applied for CCL without prints
May 31st: FOID Renewal applied for. FOID Expiration is 8/1/2019. I don't know what the inspect element was showing, as I didn't know about this yet.
(108 days into CCL wait)
June 13th: Found info here about checking the inspect element and CCL is showing Under Review (Submitted)
(121 days into CCL wait)
Both FOID Renewal and CCL are showing same application number. Logic tells me that the ISP system tied my FOID Renewal and CCL applications together since CCL is still showing (or reverted to) Submitted status. This seemed to be confirmed while going through the forums and seeing references to people having the same/similar issues due to renewing their FOID while waiting for CCL.
 
My questions are:
1 - Am I to assume that because of the FOID renewal that at least an extra 48 days could have been added to my CCL wait time? 
2 - Given that I was 108 days into the CCL wait period, could one assume that the CCL investigations were complete or nearly complete?
3 - If answer to #2 is yes, why couldn't the ISP just use the same CCL investigation information towards the FOID renewal?
4 - Should I just expect that I won't see either FOID or CCL until somewhere around July 30th (168 days or later)?

 

 

Done the same

 

CCL renewal submitted 1/12/19 expired 4/15/2019

Foid renewal submitted 5/6/19 expires 8/1/19

 

We will see maybe 9-10 months?

 

Carry on for free

 

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yell if you something happens I'm 2 weeks behind you with CCL and FOID shortly after before it expired.    I've made it a habit to check everyday. 

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Posted 02 July 2019 - 10:59 AM

Applied without prints on 3/4/19. Day 120 and still "Under Review" and "Submitted" via inspect element trick. Haven't seen much good news recently on this forum. Does anybody have any insight as to why processing times seem to have slowed and gone past the 120 day mark recently?



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Posted 02 July 2019 - 11:12 AM

Why, rumor is they have more than 300,000 applications to process and not enough staff to keep up with the volume
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Posted 03 July 2019 - 07:46 AM

Why, rumor is they have more than 300,000 applications to process and not enough staff to keep up with the volume

Is that 300k rumor based on the CCL renewals and new CCL applications in queue? Do we know how long it takes to actually process a renewal/application once it gets pulled from the input pile and started processing?
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Posted 03 July 2019 - 07:57 AM

104 days for a replacement card



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Posted 03 July 2019 - 08:26 AM

Applied 02/17/18 without prints.

 

Went active today, 136 days.

 

Shows 07/02/2024 as the CCL expiration date.

 

Foid shows the original expiration date, no change except now matches the CCL issued date and number.






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