mab22 Posted October 26, 2023 at 04:28 AM Posted October 26, 2023 at 04:28 AM On 10/25/2023 at 7:47 PM, crufflesmuth said: Until a gavel comes down, you're not a felon. I wish people would understand this. There is a process. Even in Illinois. In all seriousness my understanding is that by being charged, not even a trial yet, your FOID is void. Is that not the case?
Euler Posted October 26, 2023 at 07:28 AM Posted October 26, 2023 at 07:28 AM On October 25, 2023 at 11:28 PM, mab22 said:→In all seriousness my understanding is that by being charged, not even a trial yet, your FOID is void. Is that not the case? If it's a felony arrest, federal law prohibits you from purchasing and shipping firearms and ammunition, but you are not prohibited from possessing what you already possess. However, depending on the nature of the charges (particularly domestic violence) and other parties involved in the case, the court could order your FOID to be suspended/revoked. (Hello, red flag.) Otherwise, that is not the case.
IH8IL Posted October 26, 2023 at 03:14 PM Posted October 26, 2023 at 03:14 PM On 10/26/2023 at 2:28 AM, Euler said: If it's a felony arrest, federal law prohibits you from purchasing and shipping firearms and ammunition, but you are not prohibited from possessing what you already possess. However, depending on the nature of the charges (particularly domestic violence) and other parties involved in the case, the court could order your FOID to be suspended/revoked. (Hello, red flag.) Otherwise, that is not the case. This is IL, you honestly think they won’t take your guns?
yurimodin Posted October 26, 2023 at 03:36 PM Posted October 26, 2023 at 03:36 PM On 10/26/2023 at 10:14 AM, IH8IL said: This is IL, you honestly think they won’t take your guns? They can only take the ones they can find
JTHunter Posted October 28, 2023 at 04:05 AM Posted October 28, 2023 at 04:05 AM On 10/26/2023 at 10:36 AM, yurimodin said: They can only take the ones they can find What guns?
mab22 Posted November 7, 2023 at 06:13 PM Posted November 7, 2023 at 06:13 PM Update this evening. Motion to reconsider and response have been accepted by the Judge. More to come.
mab22 Posted November 8, 2023 at 02:05 AM Posted November 8, 2023 at 02:05 AM Update from Devore if anyone wants to watch. We are just waiting for the hearing date.
mab22 Posted November 8, 2023 at 08:53 PM Posted November 8, 2023 at 08:53 PM On 11/8/2023 at 11:25 AM, Buzzard said: This is related to the other case I believe. Devore is State, that video was about the Federal case. so many lawsuits over this, it’s hard to keep track.
mab22 Posted January 4, 2024 at 02:41 AM Posted January 4, 2024 at 02:41 AM Hearing was help today. Waiting for Judges decision. You can watch here to find out more.
mab22 Posted January 19, 2024 at 03:41 PM Posted January 19, 2024 at 03:41 PM Does not look good. I'm sure we will hear about an appeal very soon. and THANKS CAULKINS! 🖕 https://www.judici.com/courts/cases/case_history.jsp?court=IL025015J&ocl=IL025015J,2023MR4,IL025015JL2023MR4D9 Taken off advisement. This matter previously came on for hearing on Plaintiffs' Motion to Reconsider this court's Order dismissing the Complaint. The court has considered the Pleadings, the arguments, and the applicable authority. The Illinois Supreme Court held in Caulkins v Pritzker, et. al. that the exemptions for public safety officials contained in P.A. 102-1116, also known as the Protect Illinois Communities Act, do not violate the equal protection clause of the Illinois Constitution. The Court found that members of the public, as a matter of law, are not similar in all relevant respects to the exempt public safety officials. This court is bound by that holding. Plaintiffs do not dispute that the allegations in the Complaint filed in Caulkins v Pritzker, et. al. are identical to the allegations contained in the Complaint filed herein. Caulkins v Pritzker clearly controls this case. For the reasons stated, and for the reasons stated in the Docket Order of 8/15/23, Plaintiffs' Motion to Reconsider is denied. Clerk to provide copies of this Docket Order to attorneys of record.
wdnshoots Posted January 19, 2024 at 05:14 PM Posted January 19, 2024 at 05:14 PM (edited) Caulkins did this on purpose to sabotage this case. I would rather see him replaced by a Dem so at least we knew where we stood. The Dems in this state know how to get their agenda done. They are not stupid, just evil. With this states judges, I can't see how we can get any further with this case. We can hope, but I won't waste much emotion any further with our case. I just hope something will make it to the supreme Court and we'll see how that does. Edited January 19, 2024 at 05:22 PM by wdnshoots
2smartby1/2 Posted January 19, 2024 at 09:45 PM Posted January 19, 2024 at 09:45 PM Caulkins should leave Illinois. Or maybe just move to Crook County.
jpearson Posted January 19, 2024 at 10:28 PM Posted January 19, 2024 at 10:28 PM The IL State Supreme Court was never going to give Caulkins or Devore a win. Devore blaming other just masks the fact that he had a weak case and had little chance of success if things went to the State Supreme Court . He and Caulkins were both grandstanding for press and attention Devore was slightly better at it . But Devore did get paid so at least he was successful bin that aspect . The only real hope we have is the Federal cases
wdnshoots Posted January 19, 2024 at 10:40 PM Posted January 19, 2024 at 10:40 PM On 1/19/2024 at 4:28 PM, jpearson said: The IL State Supreme Court was never going to give Caulkins or Devore a win. Devore blaming other just masks the fact that he had a weak case and had little chance of success if things went to the State Supreme Court . He and Caulkins were both grandstanding for press and attention Devore was slightly better at it . But Devore did get paid so at least he was successful bin that aspect . The only real hope we have is the Federal cases Devore and plaintiffs didn't have a chance to get screwed by the Illinois supreme court, Caulkins made sure of it. Caulkins campaign fund got paid by his group. I don't believe Caulkins was grandstanding either. I really think he did it on purpose. Devores case was going after how they pass laws in Illinois and Caulkins is apart of that. Illinois Republicans aren't much different than Illinois Democrats. Devore grandstanding for press and attention? No, Devore believes in what he's doing. But I do agree that the federal case is our best chance. But I still don't trust the US Supreme Court. I wouldn't bet my life on it. Jmho
yurimodin Posted January 19, 2024 at 11:22 PM Posted January 19, 2024 at 11:22 PM I really think what DeVore was going for by trying to get the ILGA's inter communications/emails was a 1983 conspiracy to deny rights case.......unfortunately they did not grant a subpoena for that.
mab22 Posted January 20, 2024 at 03:34 AM Posted January 20, 2024 at 03:34 AM On 1/19/2024 at 4:40 PM, wdnshoots said: Devore and plaintiffs didn't have a chance to get screwed by the Illinois supreme court, Caulkins made sure of it. Caulkins campaign fund got paid by his group. I don't believe Caulkins was grandstanding either. I really think he did it on purpose. Devores case was going after how they pass laws in Illinois and Caulkins is apart of that. Illinois Republicans aren't much different than Illinois Democrats. Devore grandstanding for press and attention? No, Devore believes in what he's doing. But I do agree that the federal case is our best chance. But I still don't trust the US Supreme Court. I wouldn't bet my life on it. Jmho Everyone seems to forget the F A C T that Devore filed well before Caulkins. DEVORE got the appeal and the first TRO, and Caulkins C O P I E D Devoves case, basically plagiarized it. It was the states attorneys that talked Caulkins into giving up a BUNCH of rules and going to the IL Supreme court. The court pretty much said, Hey DUMMY you presented NO FACTS to support your argument, you loose BIGLEY! There are so many IGNORANT CARNIVAL BARKERS out there that don't have the slightest shred of a clue as to what occurred, yet they want to bash Devore and praise Caulkins like a bunch of MDA democrats.
mab22 Posted January 20, 2024 at 03:35 AM Posted January 20, 2024 at 03:35 AM On 1/19/2024 at 5:22 PM, yurimodin said: I really think what DeVore was going for by trying to get the ILGA's inter communications/emails was a 1983 conspiracy to deny rights case.......unfortunately they did not grant a subpoena for that. I have no doubt he will appeal, and he will probably get them.
mab22 Posted January 20, 2024 at 03:47 AM Posted January 20, 2024 at 03:47 AM According to this Mr.Devore has already filed an appeal! https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/article_83dc2e44-b71c-11ee-93ec-3bccc7253a11.html But HEY he's only in it to get attention. Quote DeVore appeals in gun ban challenge Attorney Thomas DeVore says he's already filed an appeal to an Effingham County judge denying his challenges to Illinois' gun ban, asking it to be reinstated.
mab22 Posted March 25, 2024 at 11:59 AM Posted March 25, 2024 at 11:59 AM Can anyone find out about the appeal that was filed in Illinois for this case, there is an appeal filed 5-24-0112. That is all that is in the current case, and I’m do not know how to get the details on the appeal or when it’s supposed to be heard. Thanks!
kevin525 Posted March 26, 2024 at 11:19 PM Posted March 26, 2024 at 11:19 PM Devores case is done. It was dismissed with prejudice. He can make all the appeals he wants but they'll get struck down because of that and he knows it. No use of following it anymore as long as it is in state court. He made his million off of it and is onto his next adventure.
mab22 Posted March 28, 2024 at 03:35 AM Posted March 28, 2024 at 03:35 AM (edited) It appears there is a lot of paperwork being filed and updated in the court record the last few days. from the case page. https://www.judici.com/courts/cases/case_history.jsp?court=IL025015J&ocl=IL025015J,2023MR4,IL025015JL2023MR4D9 Date Entry Judge Entered Under: ACCURACY FIREARMS LLC ET AL 03/27/2024 CLERK NOTE: Received telephone call from Appellate Court stating Volume 2 cannot be accepted based on how was submitted (pages broken out into smaller attachments). Clerk to contact Goodins to assist with breaking down the case into more volumes. Appellate Court to reject the Volume 2 filings and disregard the previous Volumes 1 & 3 there were previously submitted and accepted. Copy of Rejections Confirmations on file. Clerk resubmitted Common Law of Record in 4 volumes. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Volume 1 of 4 Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Volume 2 of 4 Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Volume 3 of 4 Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Volume 4 of 4 Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. UNASSIGNED 03/26/2024 CLERK NOTE: Part of filings for Volume 2 submission failed. Clerk broke down those pages into smaller groups of pages and resubmitted for e-filing to Appellate Court. Clerk telephoned Appellate Court informing of the e-filing submission errors and process of breaking down into attachments consisting of smaller amounts of pages to go through e-filing. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 2501-2800 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 2801-3200 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 6301-6700 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 6701-7200 Email from Appellate Court on file. Letter (stating briefing due dates) filed by the Appellate Court. UNASSIGNED 03/25/2024 Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 1-2200 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 2201-2500 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 3201-4000 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 4001-4800 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 4801-5600 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 5601-6300 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 7201-7500 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 7501-7801 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 7802-8000 Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted for Volume 2 pages 8001-8482 Email from Appellate Court on file. UNASSIGNED 03/22/2024 The record has been prepared and certified through Imaging for transmission to the Appellate Court, Appeal e-filed into Appellate Case# 5-24-0112. Clerk Note: No Transcripts received for filing with Appeal. UNASSIGNED 03/22/2024 Record of Appeal filed with the 5th District Appellate Court. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Volume 1 Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Volume 3 Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Impounded Record Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Report of Proceedings Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. Copy of Filing Submitted & Filing Accepted For Exhibits Confirmation Email from Appellate Court on file. CLERK NOTE: E-filing Submission failed for submitting Volume 2. Clerk broke down Volume 2 into multiple filings and submitted to Appellate Court on 325/24. Edited March 28, 2024 at 03:35 AM by mab22
Drylok Posted March 28, 2024 at 08:48 PM Posted March 28, 2024 at 08:48 PM On 10/26/2023 at 10:36 AM, yurimodin said: They can only take the ones they can find If its time to hide your guns it's time to start using them. R.I.P. James Yeager
JTHunter Posted March 29, 2024 at 02:02 AM Posted March 29, 2024 at 02:02 AM On 3/28/2024 at 3:48 PM, Drylok said: If its time to hide your guns it's time to start using them. R.I.P. James Yeager Amen to that !!
mab22 Posted April 7, 2024 at 07:28 PM Posted April 7, 2024 at 07:28 PM (edited) Wish I knew how to get to the documents. Date Entry Judge Entered Under: ACCURACY FIREARMS LLC ET AL 04/04/2024 Copy of Filing Accepted for Report of Proceedings Confirmation Email from Appellate Court in Appellate Case No. 5-24-0112 on file. UNASSIGNED 04/03/2024 Court of Proceedings for 1/3/24 e-filed with Appellate court in case no. 5-24-0112. Copy of Filing Submitted For Report of Proceedings Confirmation Email from Appellate Court in Appellate Case No. 5-24-0112 on file. UNASSIGNED 04/01/2024 Letter with attached order (Appeal in Appellate Court Case No. 5-23-0035 is hereby dismissed as the circuit court has vacated the temporary restraining order) received and filed by the Appellate Court. Letter with attached Mandate (Appellate Court Case No. 5-23-0035 Dismissed per IL Supreme Court Supervisory Order) received and filed by the Appellate Court. Edited April 7, 2024 at 07:29 PM by mab22
mab22 Posted May 2, 2024 at 05:11 PM Posted May 2, 2024 at 05:11 PM Case appears to be still kicking. 2023MR4 PRITZKER, JAY ROBERTLast Search | Information | Dispositions | History | Payments | Fines & Fees Date Entry Judge Entered Under: ACCURACY FIREARMS LLC ET AL 04/30/2024 Letter and Order entered by Appellate Court and filed. (Appellant's Motion For Extension Of Time To File Brief granted in Appellate Court Case# 5-24-0112) UNASSIGNED
Euler Posted August 22, 2024 at 11:31 PM Posted August 22, 2024 at 11:31 PM Just to put the nail in this one ... For the case filed on January 17, 2023 (2023MR4): On April 30, 2024, the letter noted above is the latest docket entry, referring to appellate case 5-24-0112. The docket for 5-24-0112 (indeed any state appellate case) is unavailable online. On January 24, 2024, however, 2023MR4 (and TRO) was vacated by a supervisory order from the Illinois Supreme Court. On January 25, 2024, the case was refiled in county court as 2024MR2. On April 17, the county court heard arguments. On May 1, 2024MR2 was dismissed with prejudice (i.e., it cannot be refiled). I believe this topic can be unpinned.
mab22 Posted September 12, 2024 at 08:16 PM Posted September 12, 2024 at 08:16 PM Someone might be knocking from inside the coffin. Entry on 08/28/2024 - Appellate court granting time extension? @Molly B.@Euler Date Entry Judge Entered Under: ACCURACY FIREARMS LLC ET AL 08/28/2024 Letter and Order entered by Appellate Court and filed. (Appellee's Motion jFor Extension of Time tojFile Brief is granted to and including 9/30/24). UNASSIGNED 04/30/2024 Letter and Order entered by Appellate Court and filed. (Appellant's Motion For Extension Of Time To File Brief granted in Appellate Court Case# 5-24-0112) UNASSIGNED 04/04/2024 Copy of Filing Accepted for Report of Proceedings Confirmation Email from Appellate Court in Appellate Case No. 5-24-0112 on file. UNASSIGNED 04/03/2024 Court of Proceedings for 1/3/24 e-filed with Appellate court in case no. 5-24-0112. Copy of Filing Submitted For Report of Proceedings Confirmation Email from Appellate Court in Appellate Case No. 5-24-0112 on file. UNASSIGNED
mab22 Posted October 7, 2024 at 01:20 PM Posted October 7, 2024 at 01:20 PM Looks like another extension until 11/4/2024. (Still not dead?) 2023MR4 PRITZKER, JAY ROBERTLast Search | Information | Dispositions | History | Payments | Fines & Fees Date Entry Judge Entered Under: ACCURACY FIREARMS LLC ET AL 09/30/2024 Letter and Order entered by Appellate Court and filed. (Appellees' motion for extension of time to fiel brief granted; extension is a final extension to and including 11/4/24).
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