lordinfamous Posted June 22, 2022 at 09:49 PM Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 09:49 PM Hello, I am having a child with my wife and my father is giving me a townhouse in IL to move to. I was an addict to opiates, I got arrested for possession, I enrolled myself in a substance abuse program on my own self and did not finish it, was in for 1 year. It was made a condition of my having the case dropped to finish the program that I enrolled myself in. As I said, I did not finish but the court still ended up no processing the case and I did not get charged, charges were dropped. I still take suboxone/buprenorphine but I have not been an illegal drug user 5 years in September. My question is if I move to IL (hate to have to) and apply for a FOID card, will I be denied. If I go to a suboxone doctor to continue my medication that has helped me to remain clean and sober, will I get denied. As far as I understand substance abuse is not the same as mental health admission. I was not admitted to any program from court, I admitted myself before I even went to court. I have not had problems purchasing firearms in VA. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordinfamous Posted June 22, 2022 at 09:51 PM Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 09:51 PM This topic is causing my wife and I huge grief as I dont want problems when we move. I hate to move but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity as much as I HATE IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted June 22, 2022 at 09:56 PM Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 09:56 PM It depends on what your criminal history says. The previous arrest and treatment may get you denied, but if you've been clean for 5 years, you should be able to appeal successfully. You won't know until/unless you try. However, since you've had no problems in VA, I suspect you won't have any problems in IL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:09 PM Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:09 PM My legal answer is "I'm not a lawyer". So neither I nor most of us KNOW if you will be denied by the "wonderful" State of Illinois, The State of Confusion, The State of Disorder, The State of Corruption and the State of Insanity in Power. About all you 'can' do is apply, get a hunch, bet a bunch and see what happens. IF you end up being denied, there remains an appeal process that could take an eternity, but there is a process nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordinfamous Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:17 PM Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:17 PM That makes me feel a bit better. I get delayed when purchasing a firearm here but within an hour or two I always am approved to pick up the firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:23 PM Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:23 PM I would not move to this crappy state if at all possible. It is terrible place and it will not get better any time soon. You didn't say where you were moving too , and that can help some. The further south is better. As mentioned before, you will just have to move here, and at the proper time apply and see what happens. I wish you the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordinfamous Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:30 PM Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:30 PM its insane I have to possibly be put in a situation where I have to apply for residency before I can see if I am force to flee or give up my firearms. absolutely INSANE garbage state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordinfamous Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:34 PM Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:34 PM On 6/22/2022 at 6:23 PM, ragsbo said: I would not move to this crappy state if at all possible. It is terrible place and it will not get better any time soon. You didn't say where you were moving too , and that can help some. The further south is better. As mentioned before, you will just have to move here, and at the proper time apply and see what happens. I wish you the best of luck. I am hesitant to post on a public place where who or when I am coming. Nothing on you but I dont know what kind of gun grabbers are lurking looking to flag someone. I can say its in the northern area about 1 hour from Chicago where no extra capacity laws per county exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordinfamous Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:36 PM Author Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 10:36 PM IF I am denied, do I have to worry about the police knocking on my door to see what I have before I can change residency? I am also worried if I am approved and then get a local doctor so continue my prescription that foid will be revoked and I will have to surrender my arms at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted June 22, 2022 at 11:40 PM Share Posted June 22, 2022 at 11:40 PM First, check your criminal record. See what is on it. If the case was "not processed" it should not show up at all, or "charges dropped" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyP Posted June 23, 2022 at 12:28 AM Share Posted June 23, 2022 at 12:28 AM FWIW - THIS forum is NOT the same as talking to a lawyer. Nor can anyone here offer anything but a personal opinion on YOUR situation. Frankly no one can be 'definitive' or claim to be 100% certain of the outcome of your potential application or future hypotheticals. The BEST advice I would give a personal friend of MINE who said they wanted to move to Illinois would be..... Don't. Only you can decide what's best for you. Definitely NOT total strangers on the internet. -lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted June 23, 2022 at 11:59 PM Share Posted June 23, 2022 at 11:59 PM On 6/22/2022 at 5:34 PM, lordinfamous said: I am hesitant to post on a public place where who or when I am coming. Nothing on you but I dont know what kind of gun grabbers are lurking looking to flag someone. I can say its in the northern area about 1 hour from Chicago where no extra capacity laws per county exist. I understand your hesitancy. Smart to be that way! Best advice I have seen is to check your records and see what is there, then consult a lawyer who knows about such things. I am sure Molly could help you find one in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted June 25, 2022 at 08:50 AM Share Posted June 25, 2022 at 08:50 AM On 6/22/2022 at 5:36 PM, lordinfamous said: IF I am denied, do I have to worry about the police knocking on my door to see what I have before I can change residency? I am also worried if I am approved and then get a local doctor so continue my prescription that foid will be revoked and I will have to surrender my arms at that point First off this is not legal advise, talk to a lawyer, but from having seen and knowning people that have had their FOID suspended/revoked or on bail/probation with the standard bail/probation clause that you reliquish any firearms, this is commonly given advice by many lawyers. Have your wife get a FOID, and get a safe. If anything happens to your FOID, lock all the guns (and ammo) in the safe with only her having the combination to open the safe and file the disposition record that you transfered the guns to her, or transfer them to someone else if you have any other family (with FOID cards) in the area that the safe can be installed. As long as you file the disposition paperwork, and you do not have the combination to the safe (or access to the firearms if they are at a different address) and obviously don't handle the guns of ammo, then you no longer have "custody and control" and are meeting the letter of the law if your FOID is invalidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted July 11, 2022 at 10:36 PM Share Posted July 11, 2022 at 10:36 PM On 6/22/2022 at 5:36 PM, lordinfamous said: IF I am denied, do I have to worry about the police knocking on my door to see what I have before I can change residency? I am also worried if I am approved and then get a local doctor so continue my prescription that foid will be revoked and I will have to surrender my arms at that point I doubt anyone will be knocking on your door. If you have a concern about the FOID can you leave the guns with family out of state while you move here and get squared away? Like someone else said it probably depends on what kind of arrest record you have had. If it's just drugs you might get denied on application but can probably appeal and get it issued. If you have any kind of violent stuff you won't be given a FOID. I'd go ahead and move and get a lawyer to look into your background for you. There are benefits to living here, access to plentiful fresh water for one thing (I predict that's gonna become the major issue of the next 20-30 years). Plus Illinois always needs more 2A supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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