TyGuy Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:54 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:54 AM Yes, it should be phrased as the right to carry not just concealed carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:06 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:06 AM (edited) I remember the Cheezburger meetup after the landmark McDonald decision. I was a lurker before that, but the decision was enough to convince me that there was nothing wrong with me just because I wanted to exercise my Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Hopefully there will be another victory informal meetup. and others can join in and carry the fire. I want to be with you.You cantPlease.You can't. You have to carry the fire.I dont know how to.Yes you do.Is it real? The fire?Yes it is.Where is it? I don't know where it is.Yes you do. It's inside you. It was always there. I can see it. ~Cormac McCarthy, The Road Edited December 12, 2012 at 05:07 AM by Mr. Fife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS3987 Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:11 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:11 AM I'm coming in fairly late at this thread and the ruling (Finally at a computer today after hearing this on the radio earlier). However I think this is a fantastic step, and will watch this as close as I can. I know it is the beginning of potentially a huge firestorm, but it is a huge win too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtoearn Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:32 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:32 AM I'm coming in fairly late at this thread and the ruling (Finally at a computer today after hearing this on the radio earlier). However I think this is a fantastic step, and will watch this as close as I can. I know it is the beginning of potentially a huge firestorm, but it is a huge win too. Or it can be a whimper as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardtoearn Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:42 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:42 AM Rep. Brandon Phelps: “I said on the floor, ‘A lot of people who voted against this, one of these days, you’re going to wish you did, because of all the limitations and the safety precautions we put in this bill, because one of these days, the court’s going to rule and you’re not going to like the ruling.’ Today’s the day.” Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/dec/11/court-ends-illinois-ban-on-concealed-weapons/#ixzz2EoWCkXaD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milq Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:56 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:56 AM Thanks to ALL who have worked hard to bring us this far. Enjoy the decision and let's all prepare to engage with those who would attempt to put a wet blanket on this fire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:56 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 05:56 AM Today (/now):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M Tomorrow (in 2 minutes by the clock, but after I go to bed and wake up by my 'standard'):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8qLUpZJhXo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve O Posted December 12, 2012 at 06:02 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 06:02 AM Perhaps I should say that I have been contacted by KHQA TV again for comments. Also I have had some interviews with newspapers on the recent opinion. In essence I have stated what I have stated all along. Illinois has a complete ban on a fundamental right to keep AND BEAR arms. In essence my spiel is as follows... perhaps some suggestions from this group might add to my thoughts. My comments:This decision has absolutely nothing to do with concealed carry. It has everything to do with removing a complete ban of the right to “bear” arms "ready-to-use" in the public way. Presently in Illinois there is a complete ban on a fundamental right bear arms that are loaded and ready-to-use in the public way. That has been removed and left to the legislature to decide in what “reasonable” manner they will “allow” the “bearing” or carrying of firearms ready-to-use. There may also be some restriction allowed for so called “sensitive” places such as schools. I repeat the decision made NO DISTINCTION as to whether the form of carry was open or concealed that I could see. In my opinion the phraseology of the second amendment is clear, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” It says, “shall not be infringed.” The phrase "shall not be infringed" was not dealt with in any meaningful way in this decision. It never ceases to amaze me how you can educate the common sense right out of man and they can come up with such a load of hogwash from something as simple as, “shall not be infringed!” As to the order of the court it says nothing about review by the court of any legislation in 180 days. The order will take affect regardless of anything the legislature passes or fails to pass. If the new law is onerous and oppressive and unconstitutional the whole thing starts again… from scratch…! Never underestimate the Chicago Machine when it gets into full press mode. I like the comment the justices made in Ezzel v. City of Chicago: "...Chicago is thumbing its municipal nose at the Supreme Court." Nevertheless we will celebrate this day and a battle won but will not forget that the war for Liberty continues unabated... It must be won one battle at a time... Regards, Drd Amen, thank you sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritte Posted December 12, 2012 at 09:50 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 09:50 AM Barbara Flynn Currie was on Channel 7 in chicago saying that they can block concealed carry to the point that it is almost non exsisstant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vezpa Posted December 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 10:30 AM Barbara Flynn Currie was on Channel 7 in chicago saying that they can block concealed carry to the point that it is almost non exsisstant. Not too worried about anything Frankenstein says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandFan Posted December 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 12:29 PM Barbara Flynn Currie was on Channel 7 in chicago saying that they can block concealed carry to the point that it is almost non exsisstant. There are few things we can be sure of, but one of those things is that people like Currie are going to try anything they think might thwart the right to bear arms ... That is simply a given. And speculating here about ways they may go about doing so would be counter-productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted December 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 12:50 PM Barbara Flynn Currie was on Channel 7 in chicago saying that they can block concealed carry to the point that it is almost non exsisstant. So what you're saying is that she's not totally against the idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted December 12, 2012 at 01:22 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 01:22 PM Good morning everyone. 179 days to go! Anyone know how to make a countdown calendar for the website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:04 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:04 PM Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:09 AM Some one put in a placeholder back in August???? Yeah! We were expecting a ruling at any time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:22 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:22 PM Good morning everyone. 179 days to go! Anyone know how to make a countdown calendar for the website? I already did: Here you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWBH Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:41 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:41 PM Yes, it should be phrased as the right to carry not just concealed carry. That is EXACTLY right!Indiana verbiage - "License to Carry a Handgun" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scough Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:59 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:59 PM Barbara Flynn Currie was on Channel 7 in chicago saying that they can block concealed carry to the point that it is almost non exsisstant. I caught that last night. Pretty funny when the old bat almost lost her dentures. Jesus christ, how can people vote for these retards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:59 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 02:59 PM (edited) I've had Como in my head ever since waking up this morning. Yes, I am only 31, but I have an old soul as evidenced by my appreciation of great music, hats (I always have a fedora, bowler, cap, etc... on), and I love to ballroom dance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVDzwGfNrPs Edited December 12, 2012 at 03:00 PM by TyGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt555gs Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:23 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:23 PM Yes, it should be phrased as the right to carry not just concealed carry. That is EXACTLY right!Indiana verbiage - "License to Carry a Handgun" You all know my feelings on Open Carry. I'm not going to worry about it this time. Let Todd get us the best law he can. We have only one chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:33 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:33 PM Yes, it should be phrased as the right to carry not just concealed carry. That is EXACTLY right!Indiana verbiage - "License to Carry a Handgun" You all know my feelings on Open Carry. I'm not going to worry about it this time. Let Todd get us the best law he can. We have only one chance. I personally favor concealed, over open carry (heavily) myself. Though of course I'm sure each has their own benefits and drawbacks, it can be nice to have choice. That of course almost goes without saying though, same as "to each their own". Though on subject, I think open carry being permitted (as a part of all of this) would be super beneficial, because it would preclude being made into a criminal if you were to accidentally 'print' while carrying concealed. (how would they arrest one for printing for 1/2 a second, when open carry is legal too)... Those are just my thoughts though, for whatever they're worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTIN Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:37 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:37 PM Good morning everyone. 179 days to go! Anyone know how to make a countdown calendar for the website? I already did: Here you go Hey that's pretty cool. Can we get that up in the banner section somehow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:43 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:43 PM Good morning everyone. 179 days to go! Anyone know how to make a countdown calendar for the website? I already did: Here you go Hey that's pretty cool. Can we get that up in the banner section somehow? I didn't realize my little timer would be 'such a hit' LOL, I created a section for it in the back room (or whatever it's called) so that I don't have to cloud up the 'important' areas with my timer talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyre400 Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:44 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:44 PM I didn't realize my little timer would be 'such a hit' LOL, I created a section for it in the back room (or whatever it's called) so that I don't have to cloud up the 'important' areas with my timer talk Topic was moved http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:53 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 03:53 PM I'd prefer both OC and CC, but I'll take CC and work on OC later. I don't see any wording in the Bill of Rights that requires the arms be beared in a concealed fashion. I won't throw the baby out with the bath water though. In regards to the 180 days....are we there yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt555gs Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:13 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:13 PM I'm guessing Todd won't throw out open carry unless he has to. I have no problem with a rural open carry bill after my Illinois carry permit is in my wallet. Chicago will throw everything they have at this. As important as open carry is to me, well .... one chance. I'm trusting Todd on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCroskey Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:14 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:14 PM So Lisa Madigan was supposed to issue her official response yesterday but I haven't seen anything. I'd like to hear what the usual time and money wasters are going to come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nem Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:15 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:15 PM +2 Thank you everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:16 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:16 PM And I won't say OC and CC or nothing at all! I like the option of either one, but I understand it might be too large of a first step. I wouldn't like it ruled out as an extension down the road once all the hysteria dies down. I don't intend to start a CC/OC argument. I just prefer to frame the discussion as right to carry, especially because that is how the 7th worded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getzapped Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:18 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:18 PM Good morning everyone. 179 days to go! Anyone know how to make a countdown calendar for the website? I put one at the top of mine! Breech & Barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:18 PM Share Posted December 12, 2012 at 04:18 PM BTW - to anyone with a good knowledge of the case - there doesn't seem to be any Wikipedia entry on either of the cases. We should get something up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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