kwc Posted December 26, 2015 at 01:37 PM Posted December 26, 2015 at 01:37 PM The motion for an extension will say something about excessive case load, vacations, holidays, need more time to research this complex issue, blah blah blah.
jmeyers Posted January 4, 2016 at 10:14 PM Author Posted January 4, 2016 at 10:14 PM IL AG asked for 14 days, so calendar is reset to around the 15th-20th of January for their initial appearance/motion to dismiss
LannyH Posted January 5, 2016 at 03:41 AM Posted January 5, 2016 at 03:41 AM What gets me is he has been though all the background checks and had one so he should have got a nonresident
Gamma Posted January 5, 2016 at 06:44 AM Posted January 5, 2016 at 06:44 AM he should have got a nonresidentThere is no such thing as a "nonresident license" in the FCCA. There are different application processes, but no distinction in the license.
jmeyers Posted January 14, 2016 at 01:23 PM Author Posted January 14, 2016 at 01:23 PM Today is the filing deadline for their Answer. Waiting in anticipation of the wonderful BS that will be spewed
kwc Posted January 14, 2016 at 03:37 PM Posted January 14, 2016 at 03:37 PM It's kind of like waiting to find out if you won the Powerball, isn't it? Then again...
lockman Posted January 15, 2016 at 05:58 PM Posted January 15, 2016 at 05:58 PM Today is the filing deadline for their Answer. Waiting in anticipation of the wonderful BS that will be spew Did they meet the deadline?
jmeyers Posted January 16, 2016 at 01:43 AM Author Posted January 16, 2016 at 01:43 AM They provided it to us this afternoon. For everyone's enjoyment, a new line of BSSKM_C654e16011516180.pdf
bmyers Posted January 16, 2016 at 01:49 AM Posted January 16, 2016 at 01:49 AM So they needed 15 extra days to type up a two page document? No wonder it takes them 90 days to print the FCCL.
Gamma Posted January 16, 2016 at 10:00 AM Posted January 16, 2016 at 10:00 AM They provided it to us this afternoon. For everyone's enjoyment, a new line of BSTheir point #3 is incorrect. Qualifications for a license are in 430 ILCS 66/25, not 430 ILCS 66/40 which solely deals with applications.
MrTriple Posted January 20, 2016 at 02:33 AM Posted January 20, 2016 at 02:33 AM For the sake of being the Devil's Advocate, but doesn't the state have a good chance of winning this? As far as I know, there aren't any laws stating that a state has to issue a license to a non-resident, and indeed many don't.
jmeyers Posted January 20, 2016 at 12:20 PM Author Posted January 20, 2016 at 12:20 PM MrTriple, its not that they won't issue, its that they revoked it, sent no notice UNTIL after i questioned it and then denied a hearing flat out. They broke multiple Administrative Law rules
Talonap Posted January 20, 2016 at 04:50 PM Posted January 20, 2016 at 04:50 PM MrTriple, its not that they won't issue, its that they revoked it, sent no notice UNTIL after i questioned it and then denied a hearing flat out. They broke multiple Administrative Law rules Just wondering, didn't you know before-hand that the permit would be revoked when you left the state? I thought that was in the statutes.
kwc Posted January 20, 2016 at 04:52 PM Posted January 20, 2016 at 04:52 PM MrTriple, its not that they won't issue, its that they revoked it, sent no notice UNTIL after i questioned it and then denied a hearing flat out. They broke multiple Administrative Law rules Just wondering, didn't you know before-hand that the permit would be revoked when you left the state? I thought that was in the statutes. The "substantially similar" language applies to applicants for an Illinois license. The statute does not allow the ISP to revoke a license once someone no longer resides in Illinois or in one of the approved states. I believe the ISP has even revoked licenses for IL residents who move to a substantially similar state, and requires those individuals to reapply if they want an IL CCL. Nothing in the statute allows the ISP to cancel their licenses, either.
Gamma Posted January 21, 2016 at 11:00 PM Posted January 21, 2016 at 11:00 PM For the sake of being the Devil's Advocate, but doesn't the state have a good chance of winning this? As far as I know, there aren't any laws stating that a state has to issue a license to a non-resident, and indeed many don't.The Supreme Court disagrees with you.http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=52501&page=4&do=findComment&comment=870654They just haven't specifically applied it to this context yet. Just because many states are doing something doesn't mean it's Constitutional. And many states have unlicensed open carry so their permitting processes for concealed carry will likely escape Constitutional scrutiny.
jmeyers Posted January 23, 2016 at 12:44 AM Author Posted January 23, 2016 at 12:44 AM Hearing has been scheduled for Tuesday Mar 1 @ 1130. I can't disclose what we are doing yet but it should be phenomenal for all out of state residents
fugawee Posted February 3, 2016 at 10:52 PM Posted February 3, 2016 at 10:52 PM Hearing has been scheduled for Tuesday Mar 1 @ 1130. I can't disclose what we are doing yet but it should be phenomenal for all out of state residents Can you message me,I can keep a secret Very interesting approach.I wish you good luck,
1911Pauly Posted February 8, 2016 at 07:15 PM Posted February 8, 2016 at 07:15 PM Can't wait to hear. Planning on moving to indiana this year. This is very pertinent to my interests
AuroraInstructor Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:52 AM Posted February 21, 2016 at 05:52 AM I am missing something. If you are no longer an Illinois resident, aren't you ineligible for a FOID card and therefore ineligible for a License to Carry?
chislinger Posted February 21, 2016 at 09:54 PM Posted February 21, 2016 at 09:54 PM I am missing something. If you are no longer an Illinois resident, aren't you ineligible for a FOID card and therefore ineligible for a License to Carry?Only Illinois residents need a FOID.
jmeyers Posted February 22, 2016 at 05:19 PM Author Posted February 22, 2016 at 05:19 PM We have filed a Objection to their Motion to Remand. Will post it here as soon as its filed publicly. Interesting as well, this little gem has popped uphttp://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3000&GAID=13&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=96333&SessionID=88&GA=99
AuroraInstructor Posted February 22, 2016 at 05:25 PM Posted February 22, 2016 at 05:25 PM We have filed a Objection to their Motion to Remand. Will post it here as soon as its filed publicly. Interesting as well, this little gem has popped uphttp://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3000&GAID=13&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=96333&SessionID=88&GA=L Let's hope it has legs!
1911Pauly Posted February 22, 2016 at 06:19 PM Posted February 22, 2016 at 06:19 PM We have filed a Objection to their Motion to Remand. Will post it here as soon as its filed publicly. Interesting as well, this little gem has popped uphttp://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3000&GAID=13&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=96333&SessionID=88&GA=99Very cool!
jmeyers Posted February 24, 2016 at 04:40 PM Author Posted February 24, 2016 at 04:40 PM For those of you who are interested, heres the Objection to Motion for Remand that we filed on 2/19. Hearing is set for March 1 at 1130am CT and I believe MollyB may be coming to join in the peanut gallery Objection Motion to remand.pdf
AuroraInstructor Posted February 24, 2016 at 04:53 PM Posted February 24, 2016 at 04:53 PM I like it!
Gamma Posted February 24, 2016 at 07:49 PM Posted February 24, 2016 at 07:49 PM Excellent, hits all the high points that I've been making about these "cancellations". Especially appreciate the direct challenge of the lawfulness of their administrative hearing/appeals procedures as that's a problem in many circumstances.
jmeyers Posted February 24, 2016 at 07:57 PM Author Posted February 24, 2016 at 07:57 PM There was a lot of thought put into the objection by Attorney Draper, another attorney from a 3 letter organization and myself. Lots and lots of drafts and this was the final result
spec5 Posted February 26, 2016 at 05:56 PM Posted February 26, 2016 at 05:56 PM Excellent, hits all the high points that I've been making about these "cancellations". Especially appreciate the direct challenge of the lawfulness of their administrative hearing/appeals procedures as that's a problem in many circumstances.This. Wish him the best and I know March 1st seems like a long way away when you are waiting. Having Valinda there will help.
jmeyers Posted February 26, 2016 at 07:30 PM Author Posted February 26, 2016 at 07:30 PM Spending the weekend with friends, not going to worry about it til Tuesday Tuesday will be a different story and Ill be on pins. Hope to meet Valinda Tuesday!
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