Tvandermyde Posted April 21, 2011 at 03:48 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 03:48 PM while cleaning out the basement this week, I was going through a lot of files and deciding I didn't need every news story written about guns in Illinois for the last 15 years. I came across these two items, and thought I would share them with you guys. one is a trib editorial from 1997 the other a cartoon from somewhere.trib97ed.pdfcartoon.pdf
mstrat Posted April 21, 2011 at 04:34 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 04:34 PM What's especially sad, is here we are 14 years later and the Chicago media is still posting drivel like this. Though none quite this scathing. And the occasional supportive editorial.
JR1987 Posted April 21, 2011 at 05:54 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 05:54 PM I like how the bill was before the Ag and Transportation committees because "its the only place they can get support". Like everyone who is in agriculture or transportation is a hick/gun nut. Its funny, either of those two industries shut down for a couple days, lets see just how high and mighty everyone is without all their products. No food (you know how much we use corn for? Just corn?!), not shampoo, soda, water, clothes, electricity, fuel, everything, and I mean everything you touch on a daily basis has been shipped on a truck. All those anti-gun people would be grabbing a gun and forcing people in my industry to work.
Federal Farmer Posted April 21, 2011 at 06:35 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 06:35 PM I like how the bill was before the Ag and Transportation committees because "its the only place they can get support". Like everyone who is in agriculture or transportation is a hick/gun nut. Its funny, either of those two industries shut down for a couple days, lets see just how high and mighty everyone is without all their products. No food (you know how much we use corn for? Just corn?!), not shampoo, soda, water, clothes, electricity, fuel, everything, and I mean everything you touch on a daily basis has been shipped on a truck. All those anti-gun people would be grabbing a gun and forcing people in my industry to work. Yep, I know Chicagoans that are smug about not worrying about gas prices because they don't drive much or at all, yet they don't realize that gas prices affect every single item they purchase in Chicago.
abolt243 Posted April 21, 2011 at 06:42 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 06:42 PM Everything you see in any store or roadside stand has been touched by diesel fuel!! The only exception MIGHT be in our local Amish community at their roadside market. But even then, they're likely to have a diesel stationary motor to power some of the horse drawn farm implements!! Oh, and the Chicago folks that don't drive....do they think the trains/busses/taxis that they use run on air??? AB
Drylok Posted April 21, 2011 at 06:54 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 06:54 PM Everything you see in any store or roadside stand has been touched by diesel fuel!! The only exception MIGHT be in our local Amish community at their roadside market. But even then, they're likely to have a diesel stationary motor to power some of the horse drawn farm implements!! Oh, and the Chicago folks that don't drive....do they think the trains/busses/taxis that they use run on air??? AB No they run on fuel too but those kinds of transporation services are provided by the government so it's free right?
JR1987 Posted April 21, 2011 at 07:05 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 07:05 PM It's amazing isn't it? My dads worked in the trucking industry in one part or another since I was born. Tank wash, dispatcher, safety, VP of the company I work at now. I knew growing up that EVERYTHING out there came off a truck. It really bugs me when people look down on some of these truckers. A lot of the O/O's we have working for us are great businessmen, and they make damn good money because they are. But they get treated like morons everywhere they go. When I saw the snooty "only the ag and transport guys care about this" comment, it made me laugh. For one or two days, just for fun. I'd like every single trucker to stop. It wouldn't make a big impact right away, but the after affects of that short fall would be a domino effect. heck, if I stop working for a week... nothing really happens. You get a trucker to stop working for a week... that's one load that wont get delivered. It really amazed me when I worked in the city how totally oblivious they were to the real world... They REALLY thought they were in a protected bubble...
JackTripper Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:05 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:05 PM Yep, I know Chicagoans that are smug about not worrying about gas prices because they don't drive much or at all, yet they don't realize that gas prices affect every single item they purchase in Chicago.Guilty as charged. I haven't filled up in 3 weeks
JackTripper Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:06 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:06 PM No they run on fuel too but those kinds of transporation services are provided by the government so it's free right? I like to think it is one of the few good things my tax money goes to.
oneshot Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:24 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:24 PM Oil isn't the problem, the Dollar is the problem. $1500 gold is the canary in the coal mine (it was $700 two years ago and what? $300 ten years ago?) The "Quantitative Easing" chickens are coming home to roost. Obama likes to point the finger at speculators, but speculators are bidding higher because they know that oil and every other commodity is only going up, as are grains, as are raw materials, etc. etc. all because the Dollar is going down. So Chicagoans will see a double whammy, gas prices will hit the cost to ship products in and the price of the products themselves. Today I ate lunch at my favorite barbecue place in town and they posted notes that they were raising the price of a beef brisket sandwich by 50 cents because their cost had gone up 33%. Restaurants have been squeezing in different places to keep from raising prices, but they've run out of places to squeeze.
Elderberry Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:33 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:33 PM The part that bothers me the most is the arrogance. For the anti crowd it never seems to be enough to win, they also want to shove your face in it and squish it around a bit with their holier than thou condescending attitudes. My momma always told me to be gracious above all else.... Well, now the shoes on the other foot and I hope it hurts. A lot. Maybe I'll be gracious later on..... Edit: I'm talking about Todd's original post -- not about people suffering because of the economy.... that part sucks...
abolt243 Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:40 PM Posted April 21, 2011 at 11:40 PM No they run on fuel too but those kinds of transporation services are provided by the government so it's free right? I like to think it is one of the few good things my tax money goes to. True Jack, but they still run on oil. Eventually, increased costs there will eventually get back to the taxpayer in higher taxes.
JackTripper Posted April 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM Posted April 22, 2011 at 12:55 AM True Jack, but they still run on oil. Eventually, increased costs there will eventually get back to the taxpayer in higher taxes. Comment was tounge in cheek.
ishmo Posted April 22, 2011 at 01:08 AM Posted April 22, 2011 at 01:08 AM Oil isn't the problem, the Dollar is the problem. $1500 gold is the canary in the coal mine (it was $700 two years ago and what? $300 ten years ago?) The "Quantitative Easing" chickens are coming home to roost. Obama likes to point the finger at speculators, but speculators are bidding higher because they know that oil and every other commodity is only going up, as are grains, as are raw materials, etc. etc. all because the Dollar is going down. So Chicagoans will see a double whammy, gas prices will hit the cost to ship products in and the price of the products themselves. Today I ate lunch at my favorite barbecue place in town and they posted notes that they were raising the price of a beef brisket sandwich by 50 cents because their cost had gone up 33%. Restaurants have been squeezing in different places to keep from raising prices, but they've run out of places to squeeze.You're spot on about the QE chickens coming home and it's going to get worse, a lot worse. The US govt appears to being trying to drive the dollar below the Euro to prop them up (wealth redistribution) and the fact that Geithner and Paulson attended George Soro's recent Bretton Woods II conference give me little comfort. It's even less comforting to know that Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders and 4 Democrats also attended Soros' National Conference for Media Reform . I guess we'll see whats really in play when the 3Q reports from the govt come out.
SFC Stu Posted April 22, 2011 at 03:39 AM Posted April 22, 2011 at 03:39 AM I like how the bill was before the Ag and Transportation committees because "its the only place they can get support". Like everyone who is in agriculture or transportation is a hick/gun nut. Its funny, either of those two industries shut down for a couple days, lets see just how high and mighty everyone is without all their products. No food (you know how much we use corn for? Just corn?!), not shampoo, soda, water, clothes, electricity, fuel, everything, and I mean everything you touch on a daily basis has been shipped on a truck. All those anti-gun people would be grabbing a gun and forcing people in my industry to work. The world would not live long without us farmers and truckers! But the people of Chicago *think* they would just go to the store and it would be there! I read a story that farmers are not necessary because the woman would just go to the store and buy her meat, because no animals were harmed! Yes, there are people this stupid!
Uncle Harley Posted April 22, 2011 at 08:34 AM Posted April 22, 2011 at 08:34 AM I like how the bill was before the Ag and Transportation committees because "its the only place they can get support". Like everyone who is in agriculture or transportation is a hick/gun nut. Its funny, either of those two industries shut down for a couple days, lets see just how high and mighty everyone is without all their products. No food (you know how much we use corn for? Just corn?!), not shampoo, soda, water, clothes, electricity, fuel, everything, and I mean everything you touch on a daily basis has been shipped on a truck. All those anti-gun people would be grabbing a gun and forcing people in my industry to work. The world would not live long without us farmers and truckers! But the people of Chicago *think* they would just go to the store and it would be there! I read a story that farmers are not necessary because the woman would just go to the store and buy her meat, because no animals were harmed! Yes, there are people this stupid! we have some friends down state here that "host" children from the city for a few days up to a week at a time during the summers through some kind of exchange through their church. Some of these kids are really bothered when they realize where there food comes from. She tells of one girl who actually became naucious halfway through a meal once she realized the beef in the beef and noodles was just outside roaming the pasture a few days prior. And another girl who dropped an entire baske of eggs breakin half of them when she realized that wasn't "mud" on the egg.
Federal Farmer Posted April 23, 2011 at 07:26 PM Posted April 23, 2011 at 07:26 PM And another girl who dropped an entire baske of eggs breakin half of them when she realized that wasn't "mud" on the egg. Washing the 'mud' off our eggs was one of those little things we took as a given.
abolt243 Posted April 23, 2011 at 07:35 PM Posted April 23, 2011 at 07:35 PM And another girl who dropped an entire baske of eggs breakin half of them when she realized that wasn't "mud" on the egg. Washing the 'mud' off our eggs was one of those little things we took as a given. I'm guessing you would create a lot of vegetarians if you took a group of city dwellers on a tour of a modern slaughterhouse. And our family in Morton always said if you went through the pumpkin packing plant there during harvest/processing time, you'd never eat another pumkin pie either!! Don't talk to me about sausage making, I love sausage!!! AB
junglebob Posted April 23, 2011 at 09:32 PM Posted April 23, 2011 at 09:32 PM Oil isn't the problem, the Dollar is the problem. $1500 gold is the canary in the coal mine (it was $700 two years ago and what? $300 ten years ago?) The "Quantitative Easing" chickens are coming home to roost. Obama likes to point the finger at speculators, but speculators are bidding higher because they know that oil and every other commodity is only going up, as are grains, as are raw materials, etc. etc. all because the Dollar is going down. So Chicagoans will see a double whammy, gas prices will hit the cost to ship products in and the price of the products themselves. Today I ate lunch at my favorite barbecue place in town and they posted notes that they were raising the price of a beef brisket sandwich by 50 cents because their cost had gone up 33%. Restaurants have been squeezing in different places to keep from raising prices, but they've run out of places to squeeze.You're spot on about the QE chickens coming home and it's going to get worse, a lot worse. The US govt appears to being trying to drive the dollar below the Euro to prop them up (wealth redistribution) and the fact that Geithner and Paulson attended George Soro's recent Bretton Woods II conference give me little comfort. It's even less comforting to know that Nancy Pelosi, Bernie Sanders and 4 Democrats also attended Soros' National Conference for Media Reform . I guess we'll see whats really in play when the 3Q reports from the govt come out. If you look at the price of corn on the Chicago board of trade $7.37 today, down a little from earlier this month, and compare it to the price about 2 years ago, it has about doubled as well. It has gone up along with the price of gold. The price of soybeans has also gone up though more like 50% from a year ago. When the price of corn and soybeans used to make soybean oil meal the two most prominent ingredients in animal feed go up this much it is going to raise the cost of raising beef, hogs, chickens and eggs. Also the price of gasoline will go up because of rising ethanol costs.
defaultdotxbe Posted April 23, 2011 at 10:38 PM Posted April 23, 2011 at 10:38 PM If you look at the price of corn on the Chicago board of trade $7.37 today, down a little from earlier this month, and compare it to the price about 2 years ago, it has about doubled as well. It has gone up along with the price of gold. The price of soybeans has also gone up though more like 50% from a year ago. When the price of corn and soybeans used to make soybean oil meal the two most prominent ingredients in animal feed go up this much it is going to raise the cost of raising beef, hogs, chickens and eggs. Also the price of gasoline will go up because of rising ethanol costs.i think one other thing that has driven corn prices up is the subsidies for ethanol, so anyone growing corn for feed loses out of the subsidies and ends up having to pass the cost on to the buyer
junglebob Posted April 23, 2011 at 11:47 PM Posted April 23, 2011 at 11:47 PM If you look at the price of corn on the Chicago board of trade $7.37 today, down a little from earlier this month, and compare it to the price about 2 years ago, it has about doubled as well. It has gone up along with the price of gold. The price of soybeans has also gone up though more like 50% from a year ago. When the price of corn and soybeans used to make soybean oil meal the two most prominent ingredients in animal feed go up this much it is going to raise the cost of raising beef, hogs, chickens and eggs. Also the price of gasoline will go up because of rising ethanol costs.i think one other thing that has driven corn prices up is the subsidies for ethanol, so anyone growing corn for feed loses out of the subsidies and ends up having to pass the cost on to the buyer The subsidy for producing ethanol is going to the ethanol plants, however I heard someone say that an ethanol plant in Iowa, I believe, was paying 40 cents over the market price for corn. A farmer buying corn to feed livestock there is being outbid by the subsidized ethanol plant, if that is the case. BTW, there are no farm subsidies for feeding livestock, that I am aware of. There is a fast turnaround selling ethanol, it takes longer to feed out cattle and hogs. There is more risk for the farmer that when the livestock are ready for market the price he receives may be down, and he has fed them expensive feed and will suffer a loss.
Tvandermyde Posted April 24, 2011 at 01:48 PM Author Posted April 24, 2011 at 01:48 PM I was doing a live TV interview with Fox news & Walter Jacobson. During the interview on the semi-auto ban I talked about how my shotgun that I use deer hiuntig with my 5 year old would be banned. Wlater excliamed "you shoot animals infron tof your kids?" I replied what do you have against hunting Walter, the differance between your kids and my kids is that mine know where McNuggets and hamburgers come from.
JR1987 Posted April 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM Posted April 25, 2011 at 12:52 PM I like how the bill was before the Ag and Transportation committees because "its the only place they can get support". Like everyone who is in agriculture or transportation is a hick/gun nut. Its funny, either of those two industries shut down for a couple days, lets see just how high and mighty everyone is without all their products. No food (you know how much we use corn for? Just corn?!), not shampoo, soda, water, clothes, electricity, fuel, everything, and I mean everything you touch on a daily basis has been shipped on a truck. All those anti-gun people would be grabbing a gun and forcing people in my industry to work. The world would not live long without us farmers and truckers! But the people of Chicago *think* they would just go to the store and it would be there! I read a story that farmers are not necessary because the woman would just go to the store and buy her meat, because no animals were harmed! Yes, there are people this stupid! It is amazing how stupid some people are, isn't it? Sometimes I hear or read something and it stops me dead. I once worked at a rental joint and a gentleman from the ghetto asked me (no joke, no exaggeration) "how big's a six foot table". I stopped what I was doing because my brain was in so much pain. Trying to comprehend that question... People want to regulate the trucking industry to make it "safer" when in many aspects it has made it more dangerous. On top of that they then wonder "well why is everything so expensive?" Its not just fuel alone. Truckers are getting harder and harder to come by, and good ones are even more difficult to find. Some guys think "this is great..." its not, for the trucker, or for the economy. In my industry you need to find a guy with tanker and hazmat endorsements and a TWIC card WITH an almost totally clean background. So I get to draw from an even smaller pool of guys. And the added responsibility on the driver is only pushing more people out. Shippers and receivers have little to no accountability, and they bully the industry around. Sooner or later, somethings gonna give, and it wont be pretty.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.