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#121 Drylok

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:44 PM

I just talked to an instructor who spoke with isp legal and they told him students can not combine 2 four hr classes to meet the first 8 hrs


I think you might ought to pass the details to Molly B Todd V - pm or e-mail

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 03:06 PM

I just talked to an instructor who spoke with isp legal and they told him students can not combine 2 four hr classes to meet the first 8 hrs


I think you might ought to pass the details to Molly B Todd V - pm or e-mail

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 10:15 AM

What was the attorney name? No one can write to those who can change this without having the name of the attorney.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:23 PM

Something to think about - if you modify the IL Carry curriculum, you better have your own curriculum number. I've added a number of things including the "GFZ" signage issued by ISP not too long ago.

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 07:50 PM

I just talked to an instructor who spoke with isp legal and they told him students can not combine 2 four hr classes to meet the first 8 hrs


This I can believe. Why would someone get 8 hours of credit if they took hunter's safety and then got a Florida license because they took hunter safety? That would be double credit for 1 course.
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Posted 18 November 2013 - 10:39 AM

Someone with a Utah permit has taken a four hour course by a Utah approved instructor and Illinois gives four hours credit for that. If that person comes to me (I have the CLIC curiculim for the final eight hours and teach NRA BP for the first eight) and says "I only need 12 hours." I don't see any way I can give less than the NRA BP followed by the CLIC for a total of 16 hours. I have heard an advertizement for a four hour class being taught in my area, but don't find anything about a four hour course on the ISP site. I guess I am just confused about the whole mess. Jim.
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Posted 18 November 2013 - 11:47 AM

I just talked to an instructor who spoke with isp legal and they told him students can not combine 2 four hr classes to meet the first 8 hrs


This I can believe. Why would someone get 8 hours of credit if they took hunter's safety and then got a Florida license because they took hunter safety? That would be double credit for 1 course.

But if they took hunter safety and UT those are 2 separate 4 hr courses and should count for 8 hrs credit.
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Posted 18 November 2013 - 01:00 PM

I just talked to an instructor who spoke with isp legal and they told him students can not combine 2 four hr classes to meet the first 8 hrs


This I can believe. Why would someone get 8 hours of credit if they took hunter's safety and then got a Florida license because they took hunter safety? That would be double credit for 1 course.


So why wouldn't they be given the full 8 hours credit if they had taken the 4 hr. Utah class , then taken the hunter safety class for the Fla. license ? Seems like the instructor Drylok spoke of isn't going to honor the full 8 hr. credit as I posed either. That would be wrong.

Guess I should read all the thread before posting. I see RacerDave already posed such a situation.

Edited by papa, 18 November 2013 - 01:01 PM.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 09:42 AM

I just talked to an instructor who spoke with isp legal and they told him students can not combine 2 four hr classes to meet the first 8 hrs


Do you have names and telephone numbers to share?

No where on the ISP{ webpage does it say that credit is given for only ONE class. My understanding (and I am not a lawyer) on reading the credits page by ISP is that one can combine any of the classes to get 8 hours credit as long as EACH class is a separate entity.

Once CANNOT attend Hunter's Safety and get a FL permit and claim 8 hours but if someone attended Hunters Safety and UT CCW Class they could claim 8 hours.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:14 AM

This is an old topic and has supposedly been resolved with the ISP correcting the misinformation. Please post here if you hear of any new reports that the ISP help desk is still saying this.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:38 PM

I have a question: If I teach the 16 hours as 8 by teaching NRA BP and 8 from teaching CLIC, Do I need to show an approved cirriculum number for each of those? Is there an approved cirriculum for NRA BP? Or do I need to apply for a cirriculum number for my combining NRA BP and CLIC?
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Posted 20 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

You will show an approved curriculum number only for the CLIC curriculum. On the line stating what other training documentation the applicant needs to supply you will write "NRA Basic Pistol".
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Posted 21 November 2013 - 12:39 PM

Thanks, Molly!
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