Montana adds recognition of Illinois carry licenses

[Gamma]

https://doj.mt.gov/enforcement/concealed-weapons/

 

Illinois now on the list of permits/licenses recognized in Montana.

[Kylar Stern]

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.

[aerxx]

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[tchostler]

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.

Yeah, but it's worth it. BTW, don't go up into Waterton packing!

[45 whit]

Good news.

[spec5]

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.

Have a good time. We love Montana.

Per their site for link posted above.

 

You can't carry in:

 

"buildings owned or leased by the federal, state or local government

financial institutions

any place where alcoholic beverages are sold, dispensed and consumed

In addition, be sure to check local regulations, which may restrict carrying concealed weapons at public meetings, and in public parks and buildings.

County sheriffs can provide information on where concealed weapons are prohibited in their counties.

Montana has no prohibitions against carrying a weapon in a motor vehicle."

[dorvinion]

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.

 

 

I'm jealous.

 

Glacier is easily the best NP in the lower 48.

Been a few times already, but always did the car camping thing. Hoping to do a few days in the back-country next summer.

[lockman]

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.Yeah, but it's worth it. BTW, don't go up into Waterton packing!

 

 

Is that in Canada?

[lockman]

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.

Have a good time. We love Montana.

Per their site for link posted above.

You can't carry in:

"buildings owned or leased by the federal, state or local government

financial institutions

any place where alcoholic beverages are sold, dispensed and consumed

In addition, be sure to check local regulations, which may restrict carrying concealed weapons at public meetings, and in public parks and buildings.

County sheriffs can provide information on where concealed weapons are prohibited in their counties.

Montana has no prohibitions against carrying a weapon in a motor vehicle."

 

State law has no prohibited locations for open carry per opencarry.org. Cities and towns may restrict carry on city property and buildings.

[vstar]

:clap:

[Neumann]

You can't carry concealed in any establishment that sells liquor for consumption, including restaurants, but you can carry open (unless asked to leave by the owner).

[tchostler]

 

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.Yeah, but it's worth it. BTW, don't go up into Waterton packing!

 

Is that in Canada?

Yes, it's the Canadian side of the park.

[Gamma]

I think there's more excitement for this addition of Montana recognition (which almost any other permit would also have) versus last week's Nevada listing (which is otherwise rather hard to come by).

[Vaden]

2 more states and we can carry in half the country!

[jim123]

You can't use the out house in Glacier National Park with your gun?

 

 

Even with a concealed weapons permit, you may not carry a concealed weapon in the following places:

• buildings owned or leased by the federal, state or local government
• financial institutions
• any place where alcoholic beverages are sold, dispensed and consumed

[TyGuy]

[tchostler]

Just shows these States are better than IL.

[Xwing]

I think there's more excitement for this addition of Montana recognition (which almost any other permit would also have) versus last week's Nevada listing (which is otherwise rather hard to come by).

I was much more excited about Nevada. I already had 3 permits that were accepted in MT...

[brianj - now in Kansas]

I was wondering why this took so long. Used to live in Montana, and, from what I remembered, they'd recognize any permit that required a background check.

 

Glad to see they formalized it, though.

 

Now, if we can just get some reciprocity set up, we'll have the closest thing to a nationwide concealed carry card as currently exists.

[Gamma]

I was wondering why this took so long. Used to live in Montana, and, from what I remembered, they'd recognize any permit that required a background check.

 

Glad to see they formalized it, though.

 

I was curious about it as well. Despite the local publicity, the court decision and resulting adoption of the FCCA did not get nationwide media attention and many of the states just weren't yet aware of the change in IL law. In May and June I used published contact information, either email or web forms, to contact the decision making authorities in several states to make sure they were aware of Illinois carry licenses and inquire about recognition of said licenses. It has seemed to have been a productive exercise.

 

It does make me curious about the ISP's "substantially similar" questionnaires that were supposedly sent out to all other states, when a public comment submitted via the internet serves to inform a state Attorney General's office of the existence of Illinois licenses, and recognition is forthcoming. Such a request should probably have come from the Illinois Attorney General and been directed to other state's AGs.

[cola490]

Great news, now come on Colorado.

[defaultdotxbe]

I was wondering why this took so long. Used to live in Montana, and, from what I remembered, they'd recognize any permit that required a background check.

 

Glad to see they formalized it, though.

 

Now, if we can just get some reciprocity set up, we'll have the closest thing to a nationwide concealed carry card as currently exists.

From what I have read in other state laws most of them require the AG or department of justice to check the permitting process of other states once a year, so for a lot of these states we just had to wait for that annual check out to come up.

 

WI was the same, if the permit requires a NICS check or equivalent it's honored, but we had to wait until they did their annual analysis of all the state laws for them to honor IL

[Xwing]

Great news, now come on Colorado.

Unfortunately, Colorado relies on reciprocity, not recognition. They would recognize Illinois, if IL would recognize CO. But that's not likely to happen.

 

It's a darn shame. Currently one of only two states outside of the left-coast and the New England vicinity where I cannot carry.

[defaultdotxbe]

Great news, now come on Colorado.Unfortunately, Colorado relies on reciprocity, not recognition. They would recognize Illinois, if IL would recognize CO. But that's not likely to happen. :(It's a darn shame. Currently one of only two states outside of the left-coast and the New England vicinity where I cannot carry.

CO could always change their law to drop the reciprocity requirement. Lots of states have been moving toward blanket recognition of all valid permits recently

 

[Gamma]

 

Great news, now come on Colorado.Unfortunately, Colorado relies on reciprocity, not recognition. They would recognize Illinois, if IL would recognize CO. But that's not likely to happen. :(It's a darn shame. Currently one of only two states outside of the left-coast and the New England vicinity where I cannot carry.

CO could always change their law to drop the reciprocity requirement. Lots of states have been moving toward blanket recognition of all valid permits recently

 

Pre-2006 Colorado recognized non-resident reciprocal permits (as most states do). In 2006 they passed a law specifically to disallow them. And none of the Sheriffs apparently see fit to issue to non-residents.

[defaultdotxbe]

Pre-2006 Colorado recognized non-resident reciprocal permits (as most states do). In 2006 they passed a law specifically to disallow them. And none of the Sheriffs apparently see fit to issue to non-residents.

 

The trend toward blanket recognition among states is a more recent thing, since about 2010, it seems to be the "good enough" for states that don't quite have the support for constitutional carry. Winds blow one way for a while, then they blow the other

[mostholycerebus]

As soon as they said Illinois would need 16 hours, I knew ours would be the new hot CCW license, and could end up being a revenue generator. Having the strictest law in the country means we should eventually get most of the states on our single permit. The out-of-state cost could probably come down a bit though.

[spec5]

As soon as they said Illinois would need 16 hours, I knew ours would be the new hot CCW license, and could end up being a revenue generator. Having the strictest law in the country means we should eventually get most of the states on our single permit. The out-of-state cost could probably come down a bit though.

 

ISP says most states need not apply. Where does the revenue come from?

[Kylar Stern]

 

WooHoo!!! I will be backpacking for 2 weeks in Glacier National Park In September! Just not looking forward to that long drive again.

 

 

I'm jealous.

 

Glacier is easily the best NP in the lower 48.

Been a few times already, but always did the car camping thing. Hoping to do a few days in the back-country next summer.

My group will be hiking part of the Continental Divide Trail. Believe me, we all will be carrying, due to the wildlife.

[Gamma]

 

As soon as they said Illinois would need 16 hours, I knew ours would be the new hot CCW license, and could end up being a revenue generator. Having the strictest law in the country means we should eventually get most of the states on our single permit. The out-of-state cost could probably come down a bit though.

 

ISP says most states need not apply. Where does the revenue come from?

It's pretty much the opposite of a "new hot CCW license" for non-residents right now. First off, it's only even available to a small number of people none of whom are geographically near Illinois.

 

Second, other than Illinois it doesn't give you anything that's not available from other licenses at much lower cost.

 

Lastly, until and unless Illinois starts recognizing other state's permits and doing formal agreements, recognition of Illinois licenses in general will remain largely substandard by comparison with other non-res permits.

 

The only reason for a non-resident to get an Illinois license is to carry in IL. Otherwise one or a combination of non-resident licenses from FL, UT, AZ, ID, VA, MN, PA (probably a couple others) would be a better deal. Even if you got an IL license you'd have to get one or more others if you're looking for comprehensive coverage.