firepiper Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:17 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:17 AM http://hinsdale.sunt...2252014:article Western Springs and La Grange members of an anti-gun violence group are asking area businesses to post signs depicting No Guns Allowed. A new state law allows residents to carry concealed weapons, pending approval of permit applications through the Illinois State Police. The first such permits are expected to be issued beginning March 1. “I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,” said Katherine Mudd, a Western Springs member of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. She has children, ages 7 and 9, and has been handing out postcards to area businesses. “My safety and comfort level are compromised by concealed weapons in private businesses,” Mudd said.Nicole Chen, also of Western Springs, agreed. “If I see someone carrying a gun in public, in a store, how do I know if they have a permit or not?” Chen said. “Unless they paste their permit on their sleeve, it’s hard to tell a criminal from a law-abiding ‘good guy’ with a gun.” Seeking ways to end gun violence, Chen met with like-minded parents in her living room following the Sandy Hook tragedy Dec. 14, 2012. Many parents are taking part in the Moms Demand Action campaign to raise awareness among businesses by passing out postcards. On one side is a graphic of a handgun with a red circle and line running through it, which businesses may post to prohibit guns on their premises. On the card’s flip side is a message from the organization telling the sign’s importance from a shopper’s safety standpoint. “We’ve already gone through 2,000 postcards, passed out by moms all over the state and the Chicago area doing their errands,” Chen said. The postcard message is spreading through the group’s Facebook page, which has 3,500 followers, plus another 500 moms, dads and grandparents on an email list, she said. Group members said the response to postcards has been positive, though noncommittal from area businesses. Chen said one business in Countryside has posted a sign. Amy Decraene of Western Springs said she’s gotten a positive response to the postcards, particularly from cashiers. “I will definitely avoid patronizing a store that refused to post the sign,” Decraene said. “I want to feel safe while I’m shopping.” Chen said she was surprised by how many employees and some owners appeared unaware of the new law, as well as their reluctance to post a sign. “Some businesses closely monitor the aesthetics and are not thrilled about putting up a sign with a gun on it,” she said. “Maybe they don’t want to offend anyone; it’s a political issue, and it evokes feelings.” A few businesses part of a national chain are posting No Guns signs, such as Costco, CVS and Whole Foods, Chen said. Nancy Cummings, executive director of the La Grange Business Association, said she’s had no feedback from members about posting signs. Ken Grunke, executive director of the West Suburban Chamber of Commerce, said he also hasn’t heard from members based in La Grange, Countryside, Western Springs, Indian Head Park, LaGrange Park, Hodgkins, Willow Springs and McCook. Other area chambers have expressed interest in running a joint event to address the concealed carry issue, as well as implications for medical marijuana use, Grunke said. Highlights even more why we need to utilize the No Gun No Money cards and approach the owners/managers of these businesses with a civil manner and unified message.
Blade13 Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:20 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:20 AM “If I see someone carrying a gun in public, in a store, how do I know if they have a permit or not?” It's concealed carry not open carry.
BrowningHP Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:26 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:26 AM Seeking ways to end gun violence, Chen met with like-minded parents in her living room following the Sandy Hook tragedy Dec. 14, 2012. Many parents are taking part in the Moms Demand Action campaign to raise awareness among businesses by passing out postcards. On one side is a graphic of a handgun with a red circle and line running through it, which businesses may post to prohibit guns on their premises. I don't see the connection
MJB Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:27 AM This is just so sad. Do they honestly believe the gun toting bad guy is going to pay attention to the sign? “I will definitely avoid patronizing a store that refused to post the sign,” Decraene said. “I want to feel safe while I’m shopping.” Oxymoron.
DomG Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:29 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:29 AM Stupid is as stupid does. I do NOT wish these "do good" women any harm, but I hope they are inside one of the GFZ businesses when a criminal with a gun decides to go in for the easy pickings.
Dr. Rat Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:31 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:31 AM Personally, I think we should all join since we're all against gun violence. We just have a realistic view of what that entails.
Uncle Harley Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:32 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:32 AM Lol .... Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2
Blade13 Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:34 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:34 AM Lol .... Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2 These women probably think that video is a serious documentary.
largefarva Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:35 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:35 AM “If I see someone carrying a gun in public, in a store, how do I know if they have a permit or not?” It's concealed carry not open carry. Yeah, I liked that line too. For the vast majority of people out there, they are not going to know if any of us have a gun on our hip. It's something that very few people even look for, and yes.....you have to actually be looking for it in order to see it. We might notice it on somebody else, but most likely even most of us won't even notice it. Trained law enforcement will be most of the bulk of people that will be able to spot a gun on somebody. Sheeple like this lady won't know the difference. Paranoid for no reason. Soon these people will realize they're all over-reacting....if only they could get it through their thick skulls that we're not the bad guys here. smh
Uncle Harley Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:39 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:39 AM I went to their fb page and posted it quick go there and like it before they delete it lol Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2
Stargeezer Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:40 AM It seems she thinks that little sign is magic - that it stops bullets and bad guys from crossing the threshold it covers. It a shame she thinks good guys with guns are no different than bad guys with guns. It's a shame she is such a twit and she's teaching her kids and others to "think" just like she does.
Uncle Harley Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:45 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:45 AM Somebody need to infiltrate their fb page and post links to amazon to purchase gun proof your children by massad ayoob they will think its great untill they open it up and find out he recommends teaching kids about firearms at young age and by then a lot of people would have already purchased it lol Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2
Dr. Rat Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:50 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:50 AM Well at least when she sees someone with a gun, she'll know for sure they're a bad guy - and she's much more likely to see someone like that without any legal carriers around.
azone5 Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:53 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:53 AM Purple on "ALL GUNS ARE EVIL." Purple off
CHOPPER Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:54 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 12:54 AM http://hinsdale.sunt...2252014:article Western Springs and La Grange members of an anti-gun violence group are asking area businesses to post signs depicting No Guns Allowed. A new state law allows residents to carry concealed weapons, pending approval of permit applications through the Illinois State Police. The first such permits are expected to be issued beginning March 1. “I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe,” said Katherine Mudd, a Western Springs member of Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. She has children, ages 7 and 9, and has been handing out postcards to area businesses. “My safety and comfort level are compromised by concealed weapons in private businesses,” Mudd said.Nicole Chen, also of Western Springs, agreed. “If I see someone carrying a gun in public, in a store, how do I know if they have a permit or not?” Chen said. “Unless they paste their permit on their sleeve, it’s hard to tell a criminal from a law-abiding ‘good guy’ with a gun.” Seeking ways to end gun violence, Chen met with like-minded parents in her living room following the Sandy Hook tragedy Dec. 14, 2012. Many parents are taking part in the Moms Demand Action campaign to raise awareness among businesses by passing out postcards. On one side is a graphic of a handgun with a red circle and line running through it, which businesses may post to prohibit guns on their premises. On the card’s flip side is a message from the organization telling the sign’s importance from a shopper’s safety standpoint. “We’ve already gone through 2,000 postcards, passed out by moms all over the state and the Chicago area doing their errands,” Chen said. The postcard message is spreading through the group’s Facebook page, which has 3,500 followers, plus another 500 moms, dads and grandparents on an email list, she said. Group members said the response to postcards has been positive, though noncommittal from area businesses. Chen said one business in Countryside has posted a sign. Amy Decraene of Western Springs said she’s gotten a positive response to the postcards, particularly from cashiers. “I will definitely avoid patronizing a store that refused to post the sign,” Decraene said. “I want to feel safe while I’m shopping.” Chen said she was surprised by how many employees and some owners appeared unaware of the new law, as well as their reluctance to post a sign. “Some businesses closely monitor the aesthetics and are not thrilled about putting up a sign with a gun on it,” she said. “Maybe they don’t want to offend anyone; it’s a political issue, and it evokes feelings.” A few businesses part of a national chain are posting No Guns signs, such as Costco, CVS and Whole Foods, Chen said. Nancy Cummings, executive director of the La Grange Business Association, said she’s had no feedback from members about posting signs. Ken Grunke, executive director of the West Suburban Chamber of Commerce, said he also hasn’t heard from members based in La Grange, Countryside, Western Springs, Indian Head Park, LaGrange Park, Hodgkins, Willow Springs and McCook. Other area chambers have expressed interest in running a joint event to address the concealed carry issue, as well as implications for medical marijuana use, Grunke said. Highlights even more why we need to utilize the No Gun No Money cards and approach the owners/managers of these businesses with a civil manner and unified message.I do have to agree with 1 part "I prefer to shop in places where I feel safe" that's why I'm gonna carry a gun--dumbass!!!
wven33 Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:00 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:00 AM I went to their fb page and posted it quick go there and like it before they delete it lol Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!!
firepiper Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:03 AM Author Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:03 AM Lotsa debate and commentary, but most seem to have missed the intent of the post.... These women are out there handing out signs........WE need to get our people out there explaining our side.... NGNM cards can only do so much, ISRA, Illinois Carry need to make contact with Chambers of Commerce and business associations and counter the claims of the anti's
milq Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:19 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:19 AM NGNM cards can only do so much, ISRA, Illinois Carry need to make contact with Chambers of Commerce and business associations and counter the claims of the anti's Excellent idea!
Uncle Harley Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:24 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:24 AM I posted this to their page lol. So sick of the senseless gun deaths of our kids.....please consider buying several copies of this book by a retired cop called gun proof your children and pass them out to anyone you know with children he now trains police officers who have to have a gun in the home how to keep their children safe http://www.amazon.com/Gun-Proof-Children-Massad-Ayoobs-Handgun/dp/0936279052Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2
aka Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:33 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:33 AM “If I see someone carrying a gun in public, in a store, how do I know if they have a permit or not?” It's concealed carry not open carry. No one said that the anti's were bright just anti - mostly without understanding any of the fundamentals.
Winger Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:37 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:37 AM I went to their fb page and posted it quick go there and like it before they delete it lol Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2 Thanks! I am not much dumber for going to that page! They do say ignorance is bliss, them are some blissful people over there, O S M R.
Mr. Fife Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:38 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:38 AM No one said that the anti's were bright just anti - mostly without understanding any of the fundamentals. Anti smart
jkdkaliman101 Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:42 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:42 AM Reading the women's quotes in the OP- honestly it takes illogical to a new level. You almost have to be that naive/stupid on purpose. How do you reason or have an intellectual debate with a mindset that detached from common sense? Pathetic
chris79ta Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:44 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:44 AM Maybe businesses will see them for what they are, dumb.
Uncle Harley Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:54 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 01:54 AM Ha ha I'm in like flynn, moms like my link to massads book they will poop their britches when they realize he believes that curiosity killed the cat and that teaching them how to properly use them at a young age is the best safety practice you can do Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2
iceman Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:01 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:01 AM Lol Gun Free Zone. Well thanks to those Moms I will stop shopping at Costco, CVS, and though I have never gone there Whole Foods.
DomG Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:08 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:08 AM Costco doesn't post. Their "policy" is no guns, but they don't post. I haven't seen CVS posted.
jkdkaliman101 Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:12 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:12 AM Ha ha I'm in like flynn, moms like my link to massads book they will poop their britches when they realize he believes that curiosity killed the cat and that teaching them how to properly use them at a young age is the best safety practice you can do Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2sending you a virtual HIGH FIVE!
chris79ta Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:15 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:15 AM Costco doesn't post. Their "policy" is no guns, but they don't post. I haven't seen CVS posted. so if a company has a policy of no guns but doesn't post a sign, its ok isn't it? How would one know unless they went to the companies website? Buffalo Wild Wings is supposedly no guns but ive been to 4 different ones and only 1 was posted
Uncle Harley Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:23 AM Posted February 27, 2014 at 02:23 AM Costco doesn't post. Their "policy" is no guns, but they don't post. I haven't seen CVS posted. so if a company has a policy of no guns but doesn't post a sign, its ok isn't it? How would one know unless they went to the companies website? Buffalo Wild Wings is supposedly no guns but ive been to 4 different ones and only 1 was posted Bww is bad about putting them on the inside set of doors so when you walk into the breezeway you can't see anything for signs while your eyes are adjusting I have seen very few signs going into a Bww while carrying but seen many on the way out lol Sent from my ADR6410LVW using Tapatalk 2
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