Molly B. Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:38 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:38 PM The Metropolitan Mayors Caucus sent the following out to Illinois mayors today. If you live in a home rule municipality, be aware of when your city council meets and whether or not they are considering passing a ban. Let us know right away. p.s. The "model" ban sent attached to this letter is the Cook Co. ban. Mayor:I learned today that IL Lieutenant Governor Sheila Simon has recently sent a letter to Mayors in the State encouraging home rule municipalities to consider passing local assault weapons ban ordinances before the concealed carry legislation which the General Assembly passed two weeks ago (HB 183) takes effect. If the bill is signed into law in its current form, home rule communities will have 10 days from the date the Governor signs it to adopt an assault weapons ban, if they wish. After that period, HB 183 pre-empts home rule authority from adopting such a ban. A few Mayors and Managers have contacted me today to see if the Mayors Caucus has a model assault weapons ban ordinance. I have shared the attached document with them and thought others who may be considering an assault weapons ban may be interested in it as well. The attached is a copy of the ordinance adopted by Cook County. I have been told by a municipal attorney that it is an excellent model because it has recently withstood a challenge before the IL Supreme Court. I apologize for including you in this email if you are the Mayor of a non-home rule community. In the interest of time, it was easier to send it to all Mayors rather than trying to separate out the home rule Mayors from our distribution lists. Finally, you should know that the Mayors Caucus does not have a position on the assault weapons ban or other firearm-related issues. This email is being sent as a service to those communities which are considering adopting a local assault weapons ban before HB 183 takes effect. Dave Dave Bennett, Executive DirectorMetropolitan Mayors Caucus Model Assault Weapon Ban Ordinance (Cook County).doc
Molly B. Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:42 PM Author Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:42 PM I'm not sure I believe the Metro Mayors Caucus, or at least Mr. Bennett himself, doesn't have a position on the ban or firearms. He certainly was in a hurry to get the "model" out, so much so that he didn't want to take the time to edit his mailing list to just home rule mayors . . . .
Capt_Destro Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:46 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:46 PM I like how they conveniently added the Tavor.
TyGuy Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:50 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:50 PM Molon Labe: Any assault weapon or large capacity magazine possessed, sold or transferred in violation of Subsection (a) of this section is hereby declared to be contraband and shall be seized and disposed of in accordance with the provisions of Section 54-213
gearsmithy Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:50 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:50 PM I like how they conveniently added the Tavor. That's just low.
BobPistol Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:57 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:57 PM I wish the Illinois Mayors would receive a copy of the Bill of Rights. But SSimon will never do that, she hates human rights.
Livewire18 Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:57 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:57 PM Molon Labe: Any assault weapon or large capacity magazine possessed, sold or transferred in violation of Subsection (a) of this section is hereby declared to be contraband and shall be seized and disposed of in accordance with the provisions of Section 54-213 Wow. When will they stop? I will NEVER allow my legally purchased firearms to be confiscated and destroyed. If they try this crap they will have a lot of lawsuits on their hands and a lot of empty homes. I would rather give my house to the bank and move out of this state before I succumb to a socialist government! Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
fubarud Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:58 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:58 PM Molon Labe indeed. They can ban anything they want. Sooner or later, some unfortunate soul will have to knock on doors and try to take them.
chidiver Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:59 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 08:59 PM Well, at least the lawsuits will be easy to cut and paste! Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
TyGuy Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:03 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:03 PM Well, at least the lawsuits will be easy to cut and paste! Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2And we can send them with the new mail service Ex Post Facto!
cm.stites Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:04 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:04 PM i like how he forgot to mention that it still has a challenge working its way through the federal court system..
mcjon77 Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:07 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:07 PM Here is something I do not understand. They are submitting the CC AWB as a "model" assault weapons ban "because it has recently withstood a challenge before the IL Supreme Court. " But that doesn't make much sense, considering that the only thing the Supreme Court did was kick the case back to the Circuit Court. They didn't rule whether or not the CC AWB was constitutional or not, only that the lower Courts had no right to dismiss the case. How does that turn it into a "model" AWB? While I absolutely despise the Chicago AWB, from reading it, that ban looks to have a greater chance of withstanding scrutiny than the CC AWB. The CC AWB looks like someone just cobbled together a piece of legislation they knew absolutely nothing about by using the copy/paste function on MS Word. The things that they added, as well as the things that they LEFT OUT just make no sense. There are so many weird holes in it that I could completely see how a court could rule that it is unconstitutional EVEN if Chicago's ban was constitutional.
NakPPI Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:11 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:11 PM Purports to regulate pistols... Way to read the bill... Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
wazzle Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:15 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:15 PM So this reverts back to a previous post I made. I just checked Carbondale's City Council agenda for tonights meeting and nothing concerning weapons is on the agenda. I called city hall and asked about the council discussing things that are not on the agenda. She said, they can discuss, but not take action. I am torn between calling the mayor and asking him directly, or taking the wait and see approach, not wanting to put any ideas in his head. After this letter today, I assume he probably has the idea already cooking.
Patriots & Tyrants Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:25 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:25 PM Like others have said Molon Labe
Neumann Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:25 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:25 PM Even if only a few home rule communities act on this, it still creates a lot of states within a state, making ordinary travel and commerce impossible. The only long term solution is to enact state preemption of all firearms, better yet, all inter-community commerce. If cities want to enact a higher sales tax, or close bars at 11:00 pm, it's easy enough to patronize one of their liberated neighbors. It's not that easy to move your residence . (although I hear other states calling me and my fortune) or drive around the legal mine fields.
ChadN. Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:30 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:30 PM How is this AWB going to hold up when it includes language about semiautomatic pistols, which are preempted by HB183. Am I missing something or just deficient in my understanding of the bill?
cm.stites Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:40 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:40 PM So this reverts back to a previous post I made. I just checked Carbondale's City Council agenda for tonights meeting and nothing concerning weapons is on the agenda. I called city hall and asked about the council discussing things that are not on the agenda. She said, they can discuss, but not take action. I am torn between calling the mayor and asking him directly, or taking the wait and see approach, not wanting to put any ideas in his head. After this letter today, I assume he probably has the idea already cooking.with him being a part of MAIG. i wouldnt put any ideas in his head.
POAT54 Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:47 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:47 PM How is this AWB going to hold up when it includes language about semiautomatic pistols, which are preempted by HB183. Am I missing something or just deficient in my understanding of the bill?And we want the ban to stand?
wazzle Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:48 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 09:48 PM So this reverts back to a previous post I made. I just checked Carbondale's City Council agenda for tonights meeting and nothing concerning weapons is on the agenda. I called city hall and asked about the council discussing things that are not on the agenda. She said, they can discuss, but not take action. I am torn between calling the mayor and asking him directly, or taking the wait and see approach, not wanting to put any ideas in his head. After this letter today, I assume he probably has the idea already cooking.with him being a part of MAIG. i wouldnt put any ideas in his head. I tend to agree, but I also think, being a member of MAIG, Bloomberg has already got the idea imbedded.
Patriots & Tyrants Posted June 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM So this reverts back to a previous post I made. I just checked Carbondale's City Council agenda for tonights meeting and nothing concerning weapons is on the agenda. I called city hall and asked about the council discussing things that are not on the agenda. She said, they can discuss, but not take action. I am torn between calling the mayor and asking him directly, or taking the wait and see approach, not wanting to put any ideas in his head. After this letter today, I assume he probably has the idea already cooking.with him being a part of MAIG. i wouldnt put any ideas in his head. I tend to agree, but I also think, being a member of MAIG, Bloomberg has already got the idea imbedded. ThisThe mayors of both Deerfield and Highland park are MAIG members. I am sure MAIG, The Brady Bunch , LCAV or some combo are already whispering in the ears of any MAIG member in Illinois.
cm.stites Posted June 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM Just got emails back from our mayor and deputy mayor/ councilman that champaign has no intentions of trying to enact one... that will also hurt urbanas chances of passing one since champaign and savoy are both pretty much attached to urbana.
jcloud Posted June 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM The mayors of both Deerfield and Highland park are MAIG members. I am sure MAIG, The Brady Bunch , LCAV or some combo are already whispering in the ears of any MAIG member in Illinois. So far, LaSalle's mayor isn't a member...let's hope it stays that way.
lockman Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:02 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:02 PM If any pass and later struck down, they have no ability to pass any corrective legislation. (if HB183 becomes law)
chidiver Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM Someone should send the mayors the picture of Gura with Oak Park's check. Just provide them with some context to what "following Chicago's lead" will mean for them. Edit: I actually do think that this will be a factor in homerules' decision making. Chicago may like to piss away money, but in an era where most municipalities are small and broke...I think the risk of protracted, expensive litigation may tip the scales in our favor. Especially since its ALREADY in court. The MAIG members may want to "do something" but may refrain when informed of the legal costs of defending a law that, in fact, will accomplish..nothing. Also remind them how Chicago bailed when the check came due. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Blackhawk067 Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:25 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:25 PM Good news....no mayor with half a brain is going to commit political suicide by jumping on board with this. Bad news...I'm not sure how many mayors in this state have half a brain.
colt-45 Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:27 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:27 PM i must be missing something didn't in the case of heller say that modern guns can't be banned or was it in a nother case? if they do this don't we have a class action suit against it? i don;t think any county down here will, but you never know. and to let them know that their are already a ban on AW. They want to ban semi-auto.
cm.stites Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM heller did say that.. it also means taking it back through the court system to get it overturned.
TFC Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:31 PM i must be missing something didn't in the case of heller say that modern guns can't be banned or was it in a nother case? if they do this don't we have a class action suit against it? i don;t think any county down here will, but you never know. Shhhhh!!!!! It's important that they pass these "bans."
Len S Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:33 PM Posted June 11, 2013 at 11:33 PM Someone should also send them a copy of the pics of he big award checks they pay the plaintiffs attorney when the ban gets overturned Sorry did not see other post.
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