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Illinois General Assembly 3/9/2021


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Though the House was in for committees yesterday there was no floor action, and none is expected until next week or beyond. Bills posted to today's House Judiciary - Criminal Committee are outlined below, including bills in our current Call to Action.


The Senate will convene this week in order to move bills from second to third reading. None of the Senate bills are currently related to us, and final action votes on the bills that are on the Senate calendar are not anticipated.


The House is not in today. The Senate is in at 12:00 Noon.



Next Days Scheduled


House: 3/10/2021 (committees only)

Senate: 3/10/2021






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Representative Willis speaks of her support for viewing gun violence as a public health issue, saying it is not a crime issue. She speaks of "certain races" experiencing more gun violence, and certain geographic areas, without elaborating on her meaning.

 

She states that the only way to create "sensible" laws is through this approach, implying that her various gun bills are nonsensical.

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HB192 Firearm Violence Prevention is up. We are neutral.

 

OK, I have to ask.

 

Why would we take a neutral stance on a bill that does nothing other than piss away tax dollars on so called gun violence.

 

We as well as most know that there is no gun violence. There is a gang problem, a crime problem and a problem with the judicial system in not prosecuting the criminals.

 

The intent of this group is to gather information to further strip our gun rights from us and push for more gun control.

 

I OPPOSE this bill and any bill like it.

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Illinois' direction on gun control is changing, at least temporarily. Instead of "gun violence" the problem is now sometimes being spoken of as a more generic "violence", with approaches to reduce it that differ significantly in some ways than in the past. This was most apparent during late summer 2020 subject matter hearings.

 

As a gun rights group our goal is not to ensure fiscal responsibility. Our goal is to prevent gun control, and to enhance our rights when possible. If the legislature wants to explore alternatives to traditional gun control it's hard to argue against that, as long as their new ideas don't involve reducing our rights,

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Illinois' direction on gun control is changing, at least temporarily. Instead of "gun violence" the problem is now sometimes being spoken of as a more generic "violence", with approaches to reduce it that differ significantly in some ways than in the past. This was most apparent during late summer 2020 subject matter hearings.

 

As a gun rights group our goal is not to ensure fiscal responsibility. Our goal is to prevent gun control, and to enhance our rights when possible. If the legislature wants to explore alternatives to traditional gun control it's hard to argue against that, as long as their new ideas don't involve reducing our rights,

My only words of caution on being ok with these ideas of “public health studies” are this: Some (not all, but some) gun control groups have a long game with all of this. First step is to have everyone starting to look at “gun violence” as a public health matter. Next step is to have studies done declaring it a public health emergency (this won’t be hard to get some group to declare based on a biased study). Once you have a situation where the government determines there is a “public emergency”, the courts are much more lenient with what restrictions they will deem constitutional. See the last year, if you doubt that.

 

Will all of that happen? Hopefully common sense will prevail, and it won’t happen. But don’t doubt for a second that some of these groups want it to.

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Illinois' direction on gun control is changing, at least temporarily. Instead of "gun violence" the problem is now sometimes being spoken of as a more generic "violence", with approaches to reduce it that differ significantly in some ways than in the past. This was most apparent during late summer 2020 subject matter hearings.

 

As a gun rights group our goal is not to ensure fiscal responsibility. Our goal is to prevent gun control, and to enhance our rights when possible. If the legislature wants to explore alternatives to traditional gun control it's hard to argue against that, as long as their new ideas don't involve reducing our rights,

My only words of caution on being ok with these ideas of “public health studies” are this: Some (not all, but some) gun control groups have a long game with all of this. First step is to have everyone starting to look at “gun violence” as a public health matter. Next step is to have studies done declaring it a public health emergency (this won’t be hard to get some group to declare based on a biased study). Once you have a situation where the government determines there is a “public emergency”, the courts are much more lenient with what restrictions they will deem constitutional. See the last year, if you doubt that.

 

Will all of that happen? Hopefully common sense will prevail, and it won’t happen. But don’t doubt for a second that some of these groups want it to.

 

One side of the aisle is DEFINITELY well skilled at a long game.

 

Also, this is Illinois, don’t count on common sense prevailing.

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On 3/9/2021 at 3:03 PM, MRE said:

My only words of caution on being ok with these ideas of “public health studies” are this: Some (not all, but some) gun control groups have a long game with all of this. First step is to have everyone starting to look at “gun violence” as a public health matter. Next step is to have studies done declaring it a public health emergency (this won’t be hard to get some group to declare based on a biased study). Once you have a situation where the government determines there is a “public emergency”, the courts are much more lenient with what restrictions they will deem constitutional. See the last year, if you doubt that.

 

Will all of that happen? Hopefully common sense will prevail, and it won’t happen. But don’t doubt for a second that some of these groups want it to.


Getting closer to this prediction, unfortunately. Today it’s a crisis.  Incremental steps towards suddenly finding a need to declare an “emergency” 

 

https://capitolfax.com/2021/11/01/pritzker-issues-gun-violence-eo-pledges-250-million-over-three-years-for-reimagine-public-safety-plan-including-100-million-from-next-state-budget/

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