Tvandermyde Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:05 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:05 AM The senate dems met for a 2 hour caucus that devolved into a a shouting match amoung senators. The President is refusing to allow Senator Forby to call the house carry bill. Instead they are going to offer an amendment to their bill that takes most of the parts of the House bill but then strips out the safe harbor provisions, any private property can ban firearms on their property all they want. . They will remove reseraunt carry and increase penalties for carrying while intoxicated to a class A misdemeanor. They will also whittle down the preemption to only apply to carrying. But unclear if that applies to mags, ammunition and other things or not. We could see an amendment late tonight with a committee hearing in the AM but unsure as these clowns don't seem to be very organized More as I get it. It looks like it will be an amendment to HB183. Call your senator and urge them to oppose this bill/amendment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockShooter Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:07 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:07 AM Thanks, and will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:07 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:07 AM And so it begins.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 1911 Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:08 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:08 AM Wow . Thanks for the Update Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaKoncepts aka CGS Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:10 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:10 AM Good to hear from you Todd. To verify, Oppose 183? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:12 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:12 AM These people are complete idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:13 AM Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:13 AM Yes that is what we are being told it will be amend 4 to HB183 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCityGuy Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:14 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:14 AM Well Cullerton is my Senator but I will call anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylok Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:15 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:15 AM The senate president is not refusing it madigan is. This is all by design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norsmis Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:15 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:15 AM I knew this was coming as did many of you. Let the Illinois political games begin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebie Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:15 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:15 AM Le sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onytay Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:16 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:16 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobrules Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:16 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:16 AM · Hidden by GlockShooter, May 28, 2013 at 12:41 AM - No reason given Hidden by GlockShooter, May 28, 2013 at 12:41 AM - No reason given I am so sick of this s***. They will be held accountable come election. Link to comment
Bud Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:17 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:17 AM Please get the word out to as many people as you possibly can. This is every bit as important as last January when both the House and Senate Chicago democrats tried to pass all kinds of unconstitutional laws. Call tonight and leave voice mails. Call both the Springfield and district offices. Then do it again tomorrow morning. We ABSOLUTELY need to make some noise about this and we need to do it IMMEDIATELY Do not stop calling until until we win and Call the stupid Republicans also. Radongo was all ready to sell us out last week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalVideo Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:21 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:21 AM Email sent to my senator tonight. Calls tomorrow. I am still mad as can be about the 270 day delay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjames Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:22 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:22 AM The senate president is not refusing it madigan is. This is all by design And I doubt there was shouting at the Dem caucus. They were probably toasting with glasses of Champagne...to be paid for by future may-issue carry-in-limited-area fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:24 AM Author Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:24 AM Guys bang on mcguire, clayborne, frerichs, cunningham, hutchinson Dont let up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAXD9 Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM There was a post from Molly quoting a blogger that said both bills will be called. Any truth to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askoop Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM My Senator is Righter, a good guy. Its been great listening to him in the Exec committee. Emailed him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalVideo Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:27 AM Guys bang on mcguire, clayborne, frerichs, cunningham, hutchinson Dont let upthey will all be on my call list tomorrow. Can someone post a link to numbers for the target list? I know I have seen the list somewhere resently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockerXX Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:29 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:29 AM I have been warning people all week to not count your chickens before they hatch, many were convinced that SB2193 was a done deal, doesn't appear to be the case any longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjachDjach Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:29 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:29 AM Call tonight and leave voice mails. Call both the Springfield and district offices. Then do it again tomorrow morning. We ABSOLUTELY need to make some noise about this and we need to do it IMMEDIATELY Do not stop calling until until we win and Call the stupid Republicans also. Radongo was all ready to sell us out last week Done. Will continue the phone barrage tomorrow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elderberry Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:34 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:34 AM Guys, how about we set aside our personal take on this for a while and quit debating each other on how we got here and who is doing what to whom... Let's just focus on the task at hand -- there will be plenty of time for "I told you so"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDaveFactor Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:34 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:34 AM At least they will still need a super majority since pre-emption is still in it for carry. E-mails sent. Calling soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldude Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:39 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:39 AM Guys bang on mcguire, clayborne, frerichs, cunningham, hutchinson Dont let upthey will all be on my call list tomorrow. Can someone post a link to numbers for the target list? I know I have seen the list somewhere resently. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33645 post #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAXD9 Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:41 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:41 AM E-mail sent to Clayborne. Will call in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livewire18 Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:44 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:44 AM Thanks for the update Todd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
202s Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:44 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:44 AM And it continues. All profanity edited out.Thanks Todd & IL. Carry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xd9subcompact Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:45 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:45 AM OK, don't call SB2193. Go ahead and amend HB183, pass it (perhaps) and send it over to the house. Up or down, so vote it down. Then, all that is left is SB2193 to call in the senate. By then it is the end of the week. Also, I can imagine that someone put a lot of work into an amendment to HB183 after last weeks passage of SB2193HA002. With what is invested in that effort, someone might feel it is only fair to take their product to a vote. Additionally, I would like to point out that statewide preemption where it is allowed to limit mag sizes or types of firearms carried is still a minefield for the person carrying, thus it is not really preemption. The point of preemption as it was so passionately explained by Mr. Madigan was to avoid people getting into trouble based on zip code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM Share Posted May 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM Thanks Todd, we will be on the phones in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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