Hipshot Percussion Posted July 30, 2014 at 12:56 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 12:56 PM In AmmoLand this morning... c2014 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included. Link to Gun WatchArizona - -(Ammoland.com)- Judge Scullin has granted a 90 day temporary stay on enforcement of the injunction placed on the District in the Palmer v. D.C. case.For a brief period, people were able to legally carry handguns in the District of Columbia. Except for government agents, this has not been the case for 37 years for concealed carry, and 70 years for open carry.The District council is in recess, and will not reconvene until 15 September, 2014. That is 48 days. That leaves 42 days, or six weeks to pass the necessary legislation. In the meantime, legislation authored by Representative Massie, which would cut funding for enforcement of the D.C. gun laws, has passed the house.Thus the government of the District of Columbia is under double pressure to conform their law to the Constitution. If they do not do so, Judge Scully is under no obligation to renew the stay.I would have preferred that the injunction remain in place. We would quickly determine if the D.C. crime rate would rise or fall. All previous evidence is that it would fall.Now we wait until the 22th of October. No extensions should be given. The people of the nation have had their rights suppressed for far too long.In reality, there is no need for new legislation. The registration process in the District is far more burdensome than obtaining a permit to carry concealed in nearly all the other states. The rules that the City established, published by Chief Lanier under the injunction, would work perfectly well. The District could then work to reduce the ridiculous burdens imposed on its residents by the registration scheme.Update: I have read the stay. It is explicitly granted in order for the District to craft legislation, not for an appeal. Both sides will submit further arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtr100 Posted July 30, 2014 at 01:26 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 01:26 PM so will DC get a better bill in 90 days than we did in 6 months? Even with a 'good' bill DC would be a nightmare to carry in - unless of course you have a diplomatic pass port Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limac333 Posted July 30, 2014 at 02:14 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 02:14 PM so will DC get a better bill in 90 days than we did in 6 months? Even with a 'good' bill DC would be a nightmare to carry in - unless of course you have a diplomatic pass portI have low expectations for a DC carry bill. Basically what you would get if Chicago alone was allowed to write ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted July 30, 2014 at 03:34 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 03:34 PM I think they're just dragging posterior so they have time to draft a notice of appeal. Scullin didn't stay it pending appeal but that doesn't mean D.C. won't thumb its nose at him and appeal. He'll probably lift the stay if they appeal after saying "We want 90 days to write a new law." Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted July 30, 2014 at 04:58 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 04:58 PM I think they're just dragging posterior so they have time to draft a notice of appeal. Scullin didn't stay it pending appeal but that doesn't mean D.C. won't thumb its nose at him and appeal. He'll probably lift the stay if they appeal after saying "We want 90 days to write a new law." Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2 They want 90 days to write the law the same way IL did, because nobody's done this before and there is no possible way this could be streamlined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted July 30, 2014 at 05:56 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 05:56 PM Dare I ask who appointed this fine bulwark of enumerated rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted July 30, 2014 at 05:58 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 05:58 PM [They want 90 days to write the law the same way IL did, because nobody's done this before and there is no possible way this could be streamlined. Of course. Haven't you heard? The Scientific Method doesn't apply in political chambers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted July 30, 2014 at 06:31 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 06:31 PM Dare I ask who appointed this fine bulwark of enumerated rights?G.H.W. Bush Personally I'll take a favorable mandate and a stay over an unfavorable ruling any day of the week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted July 30, 2014 at 07:44 PM Share Posted July 30, 2014 at 07:44 PM He'll probably lift the stay if they appeal after saying "We want 90 days to write a new law." I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyb82 Posted July 31, 2014 at 02:45 AM Share Posted July 31, 2014 at 02:45 AM You think that federal judges are big fans of parties who outright lie to them in briefs filed with the court? No, they take attorneys at their word and asking for a day stay to rewrite the law, then proceeding to use that to file an appeal, that's sanctionable conduct (for filing a frivolous motion) since the stay was granted because Scullin took D.C. at its word. The District asked for 180 days citing Gura's statement they'd be willing to play ball with a 90 day stay, Scullin granted the 90 day stay. Gura and his clients told the district that they are unopposed to a 90 day stay. Simple. This is procedural. It does not mean there is some sort of conspiracy to screw anyone. (Edited out huge rant) Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted July 31, 2014 at 04:07 AM Share Posted July 31, 2014 at 04:07 AM There are plenty of systems of government in which one man makes a decision and it is implemented immediately without further discussion. I'm pretty sure none of us would want to live under any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted July 31, 2014 at 04:09 AM Share Posted July 31, 2014 at 04:09 AM Depends on who I am in that system. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS3987 Posted August 6, 2014 at 07:42 PM Share Posted August 6, 2014 at 07:42 PM There are still plenty of places we can't carry... California, New York (NYC for their residents), etc. Hopefully cases like this in DC will have positive effects elsewhere, but I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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