I completed my CCL class sunday, went and did prints and filled out my entire app yesterday. I know it takes at least 30 days because thats how long PDs have to fight it, but other than the 30 days what are realistic times of getting my license? I was told with the weird spelling of my name (Mathew), being the only person with my actual name in the US, and doing prints it probably would be a quick process with me, since I am 23 and the worst thing on my record is a single speeding ticket. Every time I ask someone I know that got theirs a few months ago with prints ranged from 35 days to 89 days. My concern for this is we are planning a trip to see my wifes family in Rockford after our son is born. We plan to go around April 11. Is there a chance of me having it by then?
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If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 10:37 AM
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 10:38 AM
Just got mine, 33 days.
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I completed my CCL class sunday, went and did prints and filled out my entire app yesterday. I know it takes at least 30 days because thats how long PDs have to fight it, but other than the 30 days what are realistic times of getting my license? I was told with the weird spelling of my name (Mathew), being the only person with my actual name in the US, and doing prints it probably would be a quick process with me, since I am 23 and the worst thing on my record is a single speeding ticket. Every time I ask someone I know that got theirs a few months ago with prints ranged from 35 days to 89 days. My concern for this is we are planning a trip to see my wifes family in Rockford after our son is born. We plan to go around April 11. Is there a chance of me having it by then?
Rockford is becoming infamous for violence, don't blame you. Not a lot of postings either unless you need to buy some thread from Joann Fabrics. (dumbest place I've seen posted).
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Rockford is becoming infamous for violence, don't blame you. Not a lot of postings either unless you need to buy some thread from Joann Fabrics. (dumbest place I've seen posted).
In Champaign, there is a place that sells copiers that's posted. I think that about ties JoAnne's.
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 11:31 AM
Either way, I have always had a gun in a console close to me with a loaded mag next to it in that horrible city. I just would prefer to have it on my side walking through the mall or anywhere really up there. That was my main concern was to have it by Apr 11. Around here, I would still like to have one on my side, but it's not as bad as up there... yet.
If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 11:35 AM
Rockford is becoming infamous for violence, don't blame you. Not a lot of postings either unless you need to buy some thread from Joann Fabrics. (dumbest place I've seen posted).
In Champaign, there is a place that sells copiers that's posted. I think that about ties JoAnne's.
My local comic book store has a no guns sign with what looks like (and I am not kidding) a compensated laser pistol with a scope mounted on top of it. I don't know if it's meant to be serious or not, but I think that might beat the posted copier store and JoAnne's for absurdity if it is in earnest.
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Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?
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Hey, comic book guys get serious about that stuff. My cousin would probably shoot someone over a few of his comics...
If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Edited by DomG, 28 January 2015 - 11:55 AM.
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Posted 28 January 2015 - 11:55 AM
Hey, comic book guys get serious about that stuff. My cousin would probably shoot someone over a few of his comics...
With compensated scoped laser pistols, apparently. Nerd rage!
"A well educated Media, being necessary for the preservation of free speech, the right of the people to keep and read books, shall not be infringed."
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary for the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
Who gets to keep and read books? The Media? Or is it the People?
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"Hatred is the sharpest sword; the desire for peace is armor made of willow leaves in the face of an enemy who despises you, as neither alone will stop a strike that is aimed at your neck."—Samurai proverb
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."—Robert Heinlein
"I reserve the right to take any action necessary to maintain the equilibrium in which I've chosen to exist."—Me
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If it isn't the official no gun sign, does it still count? I thought it had to be their specific stupid sign.
If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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The ISP template is provided as an example, which many choose to use, but technically it can be any black handgun.If it isn't the official no gun sign, does it still count? I thought it had to be their specific stupid sign.
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Wow it has gotten streamlined. The initial bunch took just over 2 months with prints last year.
Yeah I applied in early January last year with prints and as I recall it was just over 60 days, as it was issued 3/10/2014.
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If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:08 AM
To the OP and to keep this thread back on track what was your application number?
Does my app number really mean I'm the 2,114,105th person to apply? I thought there were less than 100,000 licenses so far.
If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Posted 29 January 2015 - 08:20 AM
Probably application number 114,105. I don't know if they recycle abandoned app numbers.
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Your Concealed Carry License Number
Thats what it says when I click on sign in on the CCL website.
If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Posted 29 January 2015 - 10:56 AM
I was told with the weird spelling of my name (Mathew), being the only person with my actual name in the US
They Lied to you son.
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But anyway, the wait will be shorter with those prints added in.
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If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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Rockford is becoming infamous for violence, don't blame you. Not a lot of postings either unless you need to buy some thread from Joann Fabrics. (dumbest place I've seen posted).
In Champaign, there is a place that sells copiers that's posted. I think that about ties JoAnne's.
My local comic book store has a no guns sign with what looks like (and I am not kidding) a compensated laser pistol with a scope mounted on top of it. I don't know if it's meant to be serious or not, but I think that might beat the posted copier store and JoAnne's for absurdity if it is in earnest.
There is a recycling center in Carbondale Illinois that has a CPZ sign. They take donations of bottles, cans, paper and glass, don't even buy any of these things. Maybe they're worried about someone stealing cardboard or aluminum cans at gun point.
Disarming the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them. George Mason
Though defensive violence will always be a sad necessity in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrong doers should dominate just men. - Augustine
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If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen: a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath--a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? Then you are a sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero’s path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathed.
The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, cannot and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheepdog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.
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