Governor Quinn Steps Up Attacks On Law-Abiding Firearm Owners

[Molly B.]

CHICAGO, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- The following was released today by the ISRA Political Victory Fund (ISRA-PVF):

 

Law-abiding Illinois firearm owners are under a renewed attack by Gov. Pat Quinn's re-election

campaign. After receiving the endorsement of a radical gun control group last week, Quinn's

campaign is now the apparent mastermind of a plan to place a referendum on the November ballot that

would call for the banning of a wide variety of popular hunting and target firearms.

 

Petition documents filed with the Illinois State Board of Elections show the title of the proposed

referendum as being "Petition to Ban the Sale on Semi-Automatic and Assault Weapons." Notarized

signatures on over 100 pages of petitions show one "Maz Jackson" as being the petition circulator.

Maz Jackson is a top field operative for the Quinn gubernatorial re-election campaign.

 

"It appears that Pat Quinn plans to attack hunters and sportsmen from every angle," commented

ISRA-PVF spokesman, Richard Pearson. "First he throws in with the likes of gun control extremists

Jim and Sarah Brady, and now his campaign staff is circulating petitions seeking to ban most of the

privately owned firearms in the state. Once again, Pat Quinn has shown himself to be more in step

with Mayor Daley and the Chicago power structure than he is with the vast majority of Illinois

citizens."

 

The ISRA-PVF is a political action committee affiliated with the Illinois State Rifle Association.

Donations to the ISRA-PVF are not tax deductible. A copy of our report is available for a fee from

the Illinois State Board of Elections, Springfield, IL

 

SOURCE ISRA Political Victory Fund

[Gary]

Here is a poll question for ya!!!!!

 

If all firearms of all varieties were to become illegal in Illinois and if all the FOID card holders in Illinois were to get rid of all of their firearms, would the shooting deaths in Chicago be reduced?

 

That question is rhetorical to you and I, but I wonder what Quinn and the Brady bunch would say.

[SirMatthew]

I'm glad he's ventured into this arena and is knee-deep in it. Now I want to see Bill Brady win and proclaim it was Quinn's anti-gun stand that ruined his chances for reelection. Should be interesting to watch the poll results for the next few weeks.

[Molly B.]

but I wonder what Quinn and the Brady bunch would say.

 

Might I suggest using "gun control groups" instead of using the Brady name at least until

after the election? I'm hearing that it is confusing potential voters.

[markthesignguy]

Seems like an attempt to "keep us busy" and split away our efforts to assist the Bill Brady for Illinois Governor campaign.

 

Desperation..........

 

After loosing this election, Quinn's career is FINISHED. Toast, nada....

[Gary]

but I wonder what Quinn and the Brady bunch would say.

 

Might I suggest using "gun control groups" instead of using the Brady name at least until

after the election? I'm hearing that it is confusing potential voters.

 

Good point, but do you think that it will confuse anyone that frequents this board?

But thank you so much for bringing my failure to be a "forward thinker" on this matter.

So many fail to understand the importance of matters that effect the 2nd Amendment until the problem has had time to really take root.

I try not to do that but I don't always succeed. Do you ever have that problem?

 

Sadly, John Birch had a similar problem with his name.

[Skorpius]

Todd was on with Ginny Simone this afternoon about this. Blew my mind.

[SirMatthew]

I doubt this referendum question will generate many YES votes, but it's hard telling how the Chicago results will match up with everyone else in the state. I expect it to be overwhelmingly in favor of NOT banning those types of firearms, but let's assume I'm wrong. Let's assume it resulted in a future semi-auto transaction ban in IL, just for discussion. Law enforcement is supposed to enforce the law until such time the court overturns it, so we would have to abide by it. The semi-autos we now own would still be legal, but would this ban really make it impossible to acquire more semi-autos?

 

If I am not mistaken, I can buy a semi-auto firearm in another state providing I then have it shipped to an IL FFL dealer. Since the actual sale occurred out-of-state, it would not be an illegal IL sale. The transfer fee I pay is not part of the transaction with the guy who sold me the semi-auto, but a fee for service from another dealer altogether. Essentially, I could still buy semi-auto pistols and rifles, but I'd have to shop online and/or buy out-of-state.

 

The small gun shops in IL would have to limit their firearm sales to revolvers and bolt-action rifles only. There just isn't as much demand for those kinds of weapons and many of them would close their doors permanently. That's quite a bit of sales tax revenue the state is willing to give up.

 

My local gun range would probably stay open because sales make up only a part of their total revenue. Another nearby gun shop would probably stay open because it also sells military surplus items. Gander Mountain sells a lot more than firearms too. Just saying, it wouldn't be impossible to find a gun dealer in Illinois, but you might have to endure a longer drive to reach them. It would still be possible for me to buy out-of-state, have the firearm shipped to an IL FFL, and I simply pay a transfer fee when I pick it up. Nothing really changed except for the fact I can no longer buy a semi-auto at Gander Mountain or some other local dealer. I have to wait three days to bring it home anyway, so waiting for the shipped gun to arrive at my local FFL is not really a big deal.

 

If this isn't going to "really" stop IL people from legally buying semi-autos yet results in a reduction in tax revenue from the few surviving gun shops, then what is the real point of doing all this? Is the "Sarah Brady Bunch" (no relation to Bill Brady running for Governor) really that dense? Perhaps, but if their goal is really to stop people from acquiring semi-autos in Illinois, wouldn't they also have to make out-of-state transfers illegal too?

 

If that be the case then no IL citizen could legally buy semi-autos in any state because no IL FFL dealer could arrange for the transfer. That would be the equivalent of banning an entire class of firearms, the most common in use today, and something Heller said was unconstitutional.

 

Either way you look at it, this ban would be doomed to failure. It won't work to achieve the goal if transfers remain legal, yet it's unconstitutional if an entire class of arms are banned. Why even make it an issue?

 

Again, I don't think there will be many YES votes in support of this question on the ballot, but even there were it's one of those poorly thought out dumb ideas which should never have made the journey from the ear to the mouth via the brain. If the anti-gun people really do think this is one of their more brilliant ideas then that really explains a lot huh? It's not a wonder they can't comprehend facts when we cite them in support of gun rights.

[Gary]

This decision by Quinn is a gift for Brady. (Yes, Chicago is the joker in this deck though.) It gives Brady* the chance to paint Quinn as someone who will ignore or defy the Supreme Court while describing himself as the candidate that will uphold the entire constitution and not just the parts of it that he agrees with.

Win, lose or draw -- we will never have a better chance to further our ideals. This is the first time in decades (if not longer) that we have had the chance to elect a pro 2nd Amendment candidate to the Governors office. We may not make it, but now is our moment.

 

*Bill Brady not Sarah Brady

[GarandFan]

If this movement did manage to get a referendum question on the ballot ...

 

If they use the words "assault weapons", and given the sentiment in Chicagoland (where the vast majority of voters reside), then they could easily get at least a majority who support the banning of "assault weapons." If they do that, look for it to juice much more talk about gun control in Illinois.

 

The thing of it is ... the anti-gun rights element in the state legislature has not been able to pass any legislation limiting semi-autos, not even limiting mag capacities. So now, post Heller and McDonald, I don't know what they are trying to do (because referendum or not, semiautos are in common use for lawful purposes ... they are clearly protected given the test laid out in Heller).

 

If anything, I would think that Quinn and the anti-gun folks would want this discussion BEFORE the elections, rather than a discussion post-election and post-referendum. Anyone care to speculate what is going on ... and how this supposed referendum might play out to someone's political advantage?

 

 

PS: Gary, would you mind much to turn off the bold type of your comments, please?

[Lou]

Is this a non-binding advisory referendum? That is my impression.

 

If it somehow did pass it would give cover to a lot of fence sitters to pass some onerous legislation.

[SFC Stu]

CHICAGO, Aug. 10 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/-- The following was released today by the ISRA Political Victory Fund (ISRA-PVF):

 

Law-abiding Illinois firearm owners are under a renewed attack by Gov. Pat Quinn's re-election

campaign. After receiving the endorsement of a radical gun control group last week, Quinn's

campaign is now the apparent mastermind of a plan to place a referendum on the November ballot that

would call for the banning of a wide variety of popular hunting and target firearms.

 

Petition documents filed with the Illinois State Board of Elections show the title of the proposed

referendum as being "Petition to Ban the Sale on Semi-Automatic and Assault Weapons." Notarized

signatures on over 100 pages of petitions show one "Maz Jackson" as being the petition circulator.

Maz Jackson is a top field operative for the Quinn gubernatorial re-election campaign.

 

"It appears that Pat Quinn plans to attack hunters and sportsmen from every angle," commented

ISRA-PVF spokesman, Richard Pearson. "First he throws in with the likes of gun control extremists

Jim and Sarah Brady, and now his campaign staff is circulating petitions seeking to ban most of the

privately owned firearms in the state. Once again, Pat Quinn has shown himself to be more in step

with Mayor Daley and the Chicago power structure than he is with the vast majority of Illinois

citizens."

 

The ISRA-PVF is a political action committee affiliated with the Illinois State Rifle Association.

Donations to the ISRA-PVF are not tax deductible. A copy of our report is available for a fee from

the Illinois State Board of Elections, Springfield, IL

 

SOURCE ISRA Political Victory Fund

 

Thanks for posting this Molly B.! I posted this on www.MissouriCarry.com this morning. We have a a lot of people who live in Missouri that have friends and family trapped in the Communist Police State of Illinois!

[Buzzard]

I wonder if the Elmer Fudds and the union-employed sportsmen out there will wake up in time for this election.

 

I guess that's expecting a little too much.

[GarandFan]

I wonder if the Elmer Fudds and the union-employed sportsmen out there will wake up in time for this election.

 

I guess that's expecting a little too much.

 

Why would they? No one hunts with those guns, anyway.

 

 

Edited to add: I hear where you are coming from, Buzz, but in some ways I don't really like dissing on fellow gun owners.

[papa]

I have two family members who are gun owners , believe in the right to self defense , and think the "evil black rifles " shouldn't exist. No matter what I say , they just can't see any use for them. They are just to " dangerous"!

[1957Human]

Quinn's campaign is now the apparent mastermind of a plan to place a referendum on the November ballot that would call for the banning of a wide variety of popular hunting and target firearms.

 

Petition documents filed with the Illinois State Board of Elections show the title of the proposed referendum as being 'Petition to Ban the Sale on Semi-Automatic and Assault Weapons.' Notarized signatures on over 100 pages of petitions show one 'Maz Jackson' as being the petition circulator. Maz Jackson is a top field operative for the Quinn gubernatorial re-election campaign.

 

***

'It appears that Pat Quinn plans to attack hunters and sportsmen from every angle,' commented ISRA-PVF spokesman, Richard Pearson. 'First he throws in with the likes of gun control extremists Jim and Sarah Brady, and now his campaign staff is circulating petitions seeking to ban most of the privately owned firearms in the state. Once again, Pat Quinn has shown himself to be more in step with Mayor Daley and the Chicago power structure than he is with the vast majority of Illinois citizens.'

 

 

I'm starting to cringe whenever I see there's another press release from Pearson. It's not hard to believe the worst about Quinn and Chicago Democrats in general, but I simply don't see how this type of uniformative Quinn bashing does us any good. With the huge role that Chicago politics plays in the governance of this state, why the heck doesn't the ISRA seek advice from someone who knows something about Chicago politics and Illinois elections before publishing this stuff?

 

For starters, I presume he means "Maze" (as in Mazonne) Jackson, not "Maz," and he's not a "top field operative" for Quinn, nor is he on Quinn's campaign staff. He own a Chicago PR firm (Universal MazJac), which does represent the Democratic Party of Illinois, but more importantly Maze has his own political aspirations, having run for Ald. Tom Murphy's former seat in the 18th Ward in 2007 and currently a member of the 18th Ward Democratic Organization. How best to prove one's political qualifications in Chicago than to sponsor a referendum that suggests the banning of weapons? Besides, he might just have earned to right to get advertising monies from the Joyce Foundation because of this.

 

As to the topic of this press release, it makes it sound like this will be on the statewide ballot, but for that to be the case there would have to be over 275,000 signatures filed. Obviously that's not the situation. I suppose "over 100 pages" sounds dramatic, but that's only just over 2,000 signatures. So if this is going to be on any ballot at all, it will be limited to Cook County. Since all citizen referenda in Illinois (technically called "questions of public policy") are merely advisory, it will be meaningless if it passes. If it fails, it will be ignored. And since this won't be on the statewide ballot, it's highly unlikely the Quinn campaign would be the "mastermind" behind a referendum that will be on only the Cook County ballot.

 

These types of partisan political attacks are simply not the right way to go about convincing our fellow citizens of the merits of our cause.

[lockman]

I have two family members who are gun owners , believe in the right to self defense , and think the "evil black rifles " shouldn't exist. No matter what I say , they just can't see any use for them. They are just to " dangerous"!

 

Make them yellow or brown and all is good!

[SirMatthew]

I have two family members who are gun owners , believe in the right to self defense , and think the "evil black rifles " shouldn't exist. No matter what I say , they just can't see any use for them. They are just to " dangerous"!

 

I know what you mean, it is frustrating.

 

Funny, the AR has more safety features on it than many pistols on the market, including the popular Ruger LCP which has no manual safety.

 

As a rifle it can't be easily concealed on the street so it is rarely found in public places.

 

It's expensive, not a disposable weapon preferred by those who carry and use firearms illegally.

 

Really young kids don't have the smarts or strength needed to operate or handle it.

 

The .223 is one of the smallest rifle rounds on the market today, weaker than .40 handgun load in terms of penetration and safer than a 12-gauge shotgun shell in terms of overall damage to target.

 

Because it does look "evil" and appears to be a complicated as a piece of machinery to the unfamiliar, it is less likely to be handled by the naive young and old adults who find it by accident (in a closet, under the bed, etc.)

 

I could probably go on, but it really amazes me how much people have to overlook to really believe the AR is an exceptionally dangerous firearm.

[Gary]

 

PS: Gary, would you mind much to turn off the bold type of your comments, please?

Frankly, I think the bold print is easier to read and should be the default print style for all posts but if it bothers you, I shall comply. In fact, I have been posting way too much here lately anyway. Is there a way of being notified of posts concerning particular subjects without actually making a post yourself? I would much rather learn what others are saying rather than imposing my view on most situations. I know that I can just post an emoticon or something but that seems more like the actions of a troll. I just want to stay informed. Although, I have not posted very much, I have been a member longer that many (including Molly) other people who have their numbers of posts in the thousands. And that is a good thing. Without those posts, there would be no flow of info or opinions as to what the news really means and some posts like a recent one by "human1957" are just filled with facts and that is the whole point. Although, I think, that Human1957 might need to take a deep breath after his last post. lol There was some frustration and emotion attached as well. Way to go, human1957! Without that kind of passion, we would not be making the kind of progress that we are making. We need that passion and we need the kind of energy that Molly brings to the table.

 

BTW is there a list of rules or something that covers this type of thing?

[pyre400]

PS: Gary, would you mind much to turn off the bold type of your comments, please?

Frankly, I think the bold print is easier to read and should be the default print style for all posts but if it bothers you, I shall comply. In fact, I have been posting way too much here lately anyway. Is there a way of being notified of posts concerning particular subjects without actually making a post yourself? I would much rather learn what others are saying rather than imposing my view on most situations. I know that I can just post an emoticon or something but that seems more like the actions of a troll. I just want to stay informed. Although, I have not posted very much, I have been a member longer that many (including Molly) other people who have their numbers of posts in the thousands. And that is a good thing. Without those posts, there would be no flow of info or opinions as to what the news really means and some posts like a recent one by "human1957" are just filled with facts and that is the whole point. Although, I think, that Human1957 might need to take a deep breath after his last post. lol There was some frustration and emotion attached as well. Way to go, human1957! Without that kind of passion, we would not be making the kind of progress that we are making. We need that passion and we need the kind of energy that Molly brings to the table.

 

BTW is there a list of rules or something that covers this type of thing?

 

IMO, everyone needs to post. I dont know for sure how you interpreted GF's request, but I would not let it discourage your being an active contributor. Having to bold everything is an extra step you were doing because you were trying to be considerate, and that's a pretty decent thing to do.

There are no rules that I'm aware of on bold and cap usage. I think its just considered bad forum etiquette. It did not bother me, but I've seen this type of request many times, here, and on other forums/BBS/listservs I've been active on since the early 90's. Not that you did, but I would not take it personally.

 

To answer your other question, you can subscribe to a thread and even setup email notify. There is a "watch this topic" button at the top.

[GarandFan]

 

PS: Gary, would you mind much to turn off the bold type of your comments, please?

Frankly, I think the bold print is easier to read and should be the default print style for all posts but if it bothers you, I shall comply. In fact, I have been posting way too much here lately anyway. Is there a way of being notified of posts concerning particular subjects without actually making a post yourself? I would much rather learn what others are saying rather than imposing my view on most situations. I know that I can just post an emoticon or something but that seems more like the actions of a troll. I just want to stay informed. Although, I have not posted very much, I have been a member longer that many (including Molly) other people who have their numbers of posts in the thousands. And that is a good thing. Without those posts, there would be no flow of info or opinions as to what the news really means and some posts like a recent one by "human1957" are just filled with facts and that is the whole point. Although, I think, that Human1957 might need to take a deep breath after his last post. lol There was some frustration and emotion attached as well. Way to go, human1957! Without that kind of passion, we would not be making the kind of progress that we are making. We need that passion and we need the kind of energy that Molly brings to the table.

 

BTW is there a list of rules or something that covers this type of thing?

 

I don't think there are rules concerning type and font ... but I personally liken the bold to using all caps ... something that brings attention to one post relative to others.

 

At the top of each thread, you should see a button called "Subscribe to this Thread" or something similar. Clicking that will get you email notifications whenever new posts are made.

 

Yeah, this place is for the most part filled with well-informed and passionate people. This site has ALWAYS stood out relative to others I know as a board of "doers" instead of a board of mostly "whiners." You know the kind who will complain about any and all things happening, but aren't willing to do anything for positive change. Generally, the folks here are truly involved with elections, writing and calling campaigns, legislature-watching, town-hall organization, etc. That's the stuff that will get carry passed in IL.

[Gary]

I did not take anything said on this forum as a personal attack from anyone. If I had, I would have returned fire. No, we are all on the same team and we have plenty of people to fight without fighting each other. I, too, have been an ativist for many years. I live a long way from Champaign but I am also a member of GSL even though I have never attended any meetings -- unfortuneatly. I was able to meet some of the members when we would find ourselves packing courtrooms when one of our own had been arrested and charged with UUW. It has never ceased to amaze me that there are lawyers who have the power to bring people into court on charges when the circumstances clearly show that no laws were broken. That is why I think packing the courtroom and getting legal fees together is very important because defendants without funds or support would perhaps fold and accept a lessor charge. I am just sure that is Mode Of Operation in some States Attorneys offices.

 

As an aside, I hope Markthesignguy is following this thread because a good sign guy is hard to find. I was the "sign guy" in Jefferson County for a long time until my back became uncooperative. I am now unable to do the job properly but a good sign guy is worth his weight in gold to a campaign. I was the campaign manager/treasurer in a multi-county race a few years ago and I was only able to find one guy that was really good at placing and maintaining signs. Over the years I have made a lot of friends and a lot of enemies. The losers and those who have under-estimated my tenacity either hate me or fear me or both, but you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs. lol The angry phone calls are not pleasant, but when strangers come up to you just to shake your hand it kinda makes all the negative stuff worthwhile.

 

Oh, and Sorry about the bold font. lol

[markthesignguy]

Yes, I'm here.

 

As for the original issue, once I listened to Todd Vandermyde on Ginny's show on nranews.com I was more able to take a wait and see attitude and STOP wasting adrenaline on the issue. My adrenaline DOES stand ready to be spent when necessary, but not this issue and now right now.

 

Everybody that posted so far on this thread really should have a listen... and with this issues surfacing now, I DEEPLY regret not making it to the meeting with Todd Tuesday night.

 

Just reading all this (and some good points along the way), listening to Todd's report and THINKING, (AND REMEMBERING that this is an OPEN FORUM easily and anonymously available to ENEMY inspection) , leads me into other trains of thought.

 

Thoughts of enemies chortling over the "whacking" they just gave the hive and watching the bees buzz angrily around, even possibly at each other.

 

Thoughts of enemies chortling over the efforts and resources currently being expended to actually deal with this annoyance.

 

Thoughts of enemies trying to "make their bones" on multiple fronts from energizing certain voter demographic turnouts in certain areas, though who knows what as they try to "hit one out of the park".

[Bird76Mojo]

I have two family members who are gun owners , believe in the right to self defense , and think the "evil black rifles " shouldn't exist. No matter what I say , they just can't see any use for them. They are just to " dangerous"!

 

 

To further what SirMatthew said, maybe you should remind them of this: "A well regulated (let me add "WELL ARMED") Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

It's rifles like this (the black ones) that would help to "equalize" the citizens during any aggression towards them from an oppressive or tyrannical government. Little pea shooter pistols and .22 rifles would'nt do much good when you're facing heavy weaponry from a well armed government agency/military like organization. Not to mention the fact that theirs are full auto and we get the lousy semi auto versions...

 

 

 

[SirMatthew]

I have two family members who are gun owners , believe in the right to self defense , and think the "evil black rifles " shouldn't exist. No matter what I say , they just can't see any use for them. They are just to " dangerous"!

 

 

To further what SirMatthew said, maybe you should remind them of this: "A well regulated (let me add "WELL ARMED") Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

 

It's rifles like this (the black ones) that would help to "equalize" the citizens during any aggression towards them from an oppressive or tyrannical government. Little pea shooter pistols and .22 rifles would'nt do much good when you're facing heavy weaponry from a well armed government agency/military like organization. Not to mention the fact that theirs are full auto and we get the lousy semi auto versions...

 

 

 

GB

 

Good point Bird

[Tvandermyde]

an update for all of you.

 

We were tipped off to this as it was in the end stages. An NRA/ISRA supporter walked into the Quinn campaign office and one Mazonne Jackson handed him the blank petition. The petitions for the referendum were filed on the last day possible. We then had 7 days to file an objection.

 

We had someone "pull" the peitions to see what they filed. Our count shows they needed about 84,000 signatures to legally make it on the ballot. However, if no one challenges them, they can get on with 1. They filed 245 pages with 10 lines on each page for a possible of 2450. Not all pages are full and not all pages have all valid signatures.

 

Next we suaght out a Cook County voter to challenge the petitions, enter Sigma. A election lawyer was retained and an objection was drafted and filed in a timely manner on this past Monday, naming Sigma, Selvin Morgan as the objector.

 

We knew this stuff was on going, and we had a little time to make things happen as we didn't get the copies of petitions till Wednesday to look over. But with knowing how many pages they filed we felt there ws a good case.

 

Knowing what was in the works, the ISRA drafted a release to shine some light on this. An NRA release is forth coming. There was enough evidense to tie it tot he Quinn campaign, and the decision was to call him out on it. Quinn has been trying to play anti-gun up here, and I support the Second Amendment downstate. After the attacks on Brady's voting record and their lies and distortions of the bills and what they stood for, the ISRA decided enough was enough.

 

**** I work for NRA -- NOT ISRA and provide all of this as an update and information on how we got here ***** now back to our regularly scheduled programing.....

 

The relase was sent out to the media, then as an alert. Capitol fax picked it up last night. While the Quin campaign downstate was denying the particpation and claiming it only delt with "assualt weapons" they got to see the petition and began to wet their pants. unhappy is a mild discription of what must have been going on.

 

Durign the middle of the day Quinn people were trying to tamp down the rumor and the ISRA press release. ISRA's facts tended to push back. By midnight they were trying to come up with an answer as the downstate Quinn guys found out they had their legs cut out from underneath them by the Governor.

 

Early this morning Capitalfax reported that Quinn's campign owned up to the petitions. Game, set, match.

 

Mazonne Jackson is a field coordinator for the Quinn campaign. Yes he has a PR firm and what ever else he does, but he is a Quinn operative. And to be put in charge of this, he is high enough to get tagged.

 

The referrendum, is advisory in nature. It's non-binding. But it purports to demand a STATEWIDE ban on the sale of ALL semi-auto firearms. From nylon 66s and 10/22s to 11-87s and Super X3s. Nothing is spared. This is Acevedo's bill on steriods. The very fact that people from the Governor's campign would orcistrate this while mouthing the words " I support the Second Amendment" is bull.

 

Quinn has crtizised Bill Brady for saying he would "veto any ban of semi-autos" Is is to the left of the left on this issue. The fact that it comes weeks after a Supreme Court ruling affirming the right and holding it appplies against the states, the ISRA release was spot on.

 

there is a war going on and it ain't gonna be won with nice words.

 

A hearing is on the 17th. appearances will be entered and the other side will be given time to respond. We expect a motion to strike our objection (dissmiss). THere will be a hearing on the evidense we expect in the next week to 10 days. Then we'll see what they find. We don't think this will survive, but it is Crook County.

 

2 years ago when a AWB type referendum was n the ballot it won 80/20 if memory serves me correctly. It's to expense to fight and win on the ground. Quinn is trying to use this to gin up support in palces he needs to turn out and win 90/10 to stay in the race. todays poll of a 13 point lead by Brady shows they have been seeing this, the loss of support inthe black community and are desperate.

 

more to follow....

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[GarandFan]

Fantastic. Thanks to you, Sigma, and all the rest of those who are on the ball.

 

No more freaking shenanigans.

[Tvandermyde]

NRA Challenges Semi-Auto Ban Referendum in Illinois

Thursday, August 12, 2010

Fairfax, Va. – The National Rifle Association is backing a protest filed with the Electoral Board in Cook County, Illinois, in response to a petition to ban the sale of semi-automatic firearms across the state. The petition asks, “Shall the Governor and the members of the Illinois General Assembly enact legislation to ban the sale of semi-automatic and assault weapons that are used by criminals to threaten the lives of law enforcement and the people of Illinois?”

 

The petition is aimed at creating a referendum on the county's November ballot to prevent citizens of Illinois from being able to purchase semi-automatic firearms, which are the firearms most commonly bought for self-protection today. NRA member Selvin Morgan, a resident of Cook County, has filed an objection to this petition, and the NRA is supporting him in this effort. “The NRA will fight this and any other attempt to restrict the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding gun owners,” said Chris W. Cox, NRA-ILA chief lobbyist. “Semi-automatic firearms have been around for 125 years and are used everywhere in America for self-defense, competitive shooting at all levels and hunting. Banning the sale of these commonly owned firearms will do nothing to curb crime, because criminals pay no attention to the law.”

 

Although the names, addresses and signatures of more than 83,000 Cook County residents are required in order for the question raised by the petition to make it onto the ballot, the petitioner has gathered and submitted information for only approximately 2,500 people -- many of whom are lacking valid names, addresses and signatures.

 

This petition and Mr. Morgan’s protest to the petition will be the subject of a hearing before the Cook County Electoral Board in the coming weeks. At that time, NRA will assist Mr. Morgan in asking that this referendum be stricken from the ballot.

[Tvandermyde]

http://nranews.com/#/nranews

 

today's NRA update 8/12/10 has an update from me on the cook county referendum.

 

click on daily update to the left of the screen to play the update.

[GarandFan]

Thanks, Todd. I suspect your take is spot-on.

 

I have been scratching my head a little, wondering how this might help anyone given that no semiauto ban has been able to move in Illinois.

 

Your take that this is a scheme to gin up more voter turnout in heavily democratic Chicago ... it seems spot-on to me. That could be a real benefit for Quinn, who is worried about Dem turnout, and explains why his campaign is behind this.

 

Nice job folks, for catching this. Gonna have to keep the ear to the ground here before this election. I suspect more shenanigans are going to pop up.