mauserme Posted March 15, 2013 at 05:51 AM Posted March 15, 2013 at 05:51 AM With the exception of HB2265 which passed out of committee 3/13/2013, the firearm bills we've been watching in Judiciary have now been reassigned a 3/20/2013 hearing date.. Those who were watching House floor debate yesterday will recall that the audio/video feed went quiet for a brief period just as HB2265 was called. It appears from the status page that some debate may have occurred as status has been updated to reflect "Held on Calendar Order of Second Reading". HB807, HB808, HB809, and HB817 are new to the ILGA thread today. These shell bills were on the printed calendar yesterday and are pending amendments. Given the current attempts by some factions within the legislature to avoid public comment on gun control, I am now listing these publicly in order to shine a brighter light on the process. The House is scheduled for 10:00 AM today. The Senate is not in. House Calendar 10:00 AM House Audio/Video Link How a Bill Becomes a LawLivestream Link to current and archived events. HB807 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the unlawful possession of firearms and firearm ammunition HB808 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the defacing of identification marks on a firearm HB809 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning firearms. HB817 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis as Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the short title HB997 Concealed Carry-Firearms Support (see individual amendments) House Sponsor: Phelps, Sullivan, Beiser, Costello, Verschoore, Cloonen, Unes, Smiddy, Bradley, Scherer, Hammond, Tracy, Harms, Halbrook, Cabello, Jackson, Bost, Reis, Rosenthal, Osmond, Chapa LaVia, Cavaletto, Brown, Demmer, Sosnowski, Kay, Leitch, Sommer, Sacia, Pritchard, Roth, Morrison, Hays, Meier, Davidsmeyer, Mitchell, Sandack, Poe, Brauer, Moffitt, Ives, Wheeler, McSweeney, Senger, Reboletti, Tryon, Brady, Harris Status: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Creates the Family and Personal Protection Act. Provides that the Department of State Police shall issue a license to a person to: (1) carry a loaded or unloaded handgun on or about his or her person, concealed or otherwise; (2) keep or carry a loaded or unloaded handgun on or about his or her person when in a vehicle; and (3) keep a loaded or unloaded handgun openly or concealed in a vehicle. Prohibits the carrying of the handgun in certain locations. Provides that the license shall be issued by the Department of State Police within 30 days of receipt of a completed application and shall be valid throughout the State for a period of 5 years from the date of issuance. Provides for renewal of licenses. Establishes qualifications for licensees, certified firearms instructors, and instructor trainers. Provides for home rule preemption. Provides that the provisions of the Act are severable. Amends the Freedom of Information Act. Prohibits from inspection and copying information about applications for licenses to carry a handgun and about license holders contained in the database created by the Family and Personal Protection Act, except as authorized by that Act. Amends the State Finance Act and the Criminal Code of 2012 to make conforming changes. Effective immediately. House Amendment 1 - Currie - Establishes "gun free" zones (state government) - Oppose House Amendment 2 - Zalewski[/color - Esablishes "gun free" zones (restaurants) - Oppose House Amendment 3 - Jakobsson - Establishes "gun free" zones (colleges) - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Zalewski - Increased Penalties - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Currie - "influence of any illegal drugs or hallucinogenic drugs or alcohol.". - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Zalewski - Requires firearms to be broken down while transporting in a vehicle - Oppose House Amendment 7 - Currie - 40 hour training requirement at ISP run facility - Oppose House Amendment 8 - Lang - Allows counties and municipalites to enact greater restrictions - Oppose HB1155 Criminal Law-Tech Neutral (see individual amendments) House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning the unlawful use of weapons. House Amendment 1 - Phelps - Names the Act - Support House Amendment 2 - Zalewski - Establishes "gun free" zones (schools) - Oppose House Amendment 3 - Burke[/color - Esablishes "gun free" zones (day care) - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Currie - Establishes "gun free" zones (state government) - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Lang - Establishes "gun free" zones (gaming) - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Jakobsson - Establishes "gun free" zones (health care) - Oppose House Amendment 7 - Lang - Establishes "gun free" zones (libraries) - Oppose House Amendment 8 - Feigenholtz - Establishes "gun free" zones (arenas) - Oppose House Amendment 9 - Cassidy - Establishes "gun free" zones (amusement parks) - Oppose House Amendment 14 - Mell - Establishes "gun free" zones (public transportation) - Oppose House Amendment 27 - Phelps - HB997 language - Support House Amendment 38 - Davis. Will - Registration - Oppose House Amendment 40 - Zalewski - Locked Storage - Oppose House Amendment 42 - Acevedo - Lost or Stolen - Oppose House Amendmnet 45 - Drury - Attempts to moot the 7CA decision in Moore with indefinite implementation dates - Oppose House Amendmnet 46 - Drury - Doubles the cost of the FOID card - Oppose HB1156 Criminal Law-Tech Oppose House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning exemptions from the statutes concerning unlawful use of weapons and aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. House Amendment 1 - Acevedo - Creates the Illinois Assaut Weapons Act - Oppose House Amendment 2 - Acevedo - Bans common firearms - Oppose House Amendment 3 - Sims - Bans common firearms - Oppose House Amendment 4 - Currie - Bans common firearms - Oppose House Amendment 5 - Zalewski - Magazine ban - Oppose House Amendment 6 - Cassidy - Locked storage required - Oppose House Amendment 11 - Durkin - Magazine Ban - Oppose HB1157 Criminal Law-Tech Oppose House Sponsor: MadiganStatus: Second Reading Synopsis As Introduced Amends the Criminal Code of 2012. Makes a technical change in a Section concerning exemptions from the statutes concerning unlawful use of weapons and aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. House Amendment 1 - Davis, Will - Creates the Illninois Firearm Safety Act - Oppose House Amendment 2 - Davis, Will - Registration - Oppose House Amendmnet 3- Sims - Mental Health Evaluation - Oppose House Amendmnet 4 - Zalewski - Locked Storage - Oppose House Amendmnet 5 - Feigenholtz - Mental Health/Relatives and Acquaintances - Oppose House Amendmnet 6 - Acevedo - Lost or Stolen - Oppose House Amendment 7 - Currie - Mental Health/Increased Fees - Oppose House Amendment 8 - Cassidy - Health Care Reporting Required - Oppose House Amendmnet 10 - Michell, Christian - Creates a registry of transfers - Oppose HB2265 Crim Cd-Firearm Offenses Oppose House Sponsor: Zalewski, Sims, Acevedo, Drury, Welch, Cabello, DeLuca, Cassidy, KifowitStatus: Second Reading House Amendment 1 Replaces everything after the enacting clause. Reinserts the provisions of the Bill. Changes penalties for aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. Provides that it is an affirmative defense to the offense of aggravated unlawful use of a weapon for not holding a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card that the defendant has, prior to the commission of the offense, submitted a Firearm Owner's Identification Card renewal application to the Department of State Police and the defendant is otherwise eligible for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card. Balanced Budget Note (Office of Management and Budget) HB 2265 has a direct fiscal impact to the Illinois Department of Corrections. The total impact of HB 2265 would result in an increase of 3,860 inmates, with additional operating costs of $701,712,300 and construction costs of $263,130,300 over a ten year period. Next Days Scheduled House: 3/19/2013 @ 12:00 NoonSenate: 3/19/2013 @ 11:00 AM House Calendar 3-15-2013.pdf
Buckfarrack Posted March 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM Posted March 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM I can't thank you enough Mauserme!
Joebie Posted March 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM Posted March 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM I would say be cautious today, reason: It's Friday, and it wouldn't surprise me if some shenanigans happened. We all know they get stuff done on Fridays, and like to move it along quickly. My personal opinion is that there could be some debauchery today.
Bhawk99 Posted March 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM Posted March 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM Thanks for the update and all your hard work for our cause.
Patriots & Tyrants Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:02 PM Let the games begin!
cls74 Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:52 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:52 PM Anyone feel a "win one for the gipper" coming on today with Obama being back in the city of blood? Fresh shell bills and an early session doesn't feel right. Could Madigan try to win a Tony award nomination today? Hoping a few bad voters are excused today, that should limit their chances of 60. Wondering if the one excused yesterday was the reason they didn't bring out a magazine ban again.
Dave D Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM Hb 1157, amendment infringement 9 (not listed) looks like a assault weapons ban. http://ilga.gov/legi...AID=12&Session= It says storage,
blazzinbird Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:10 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:10 PM Hb 1157, amendment infringement 9 (not listed) looks like a assault weapons ban. http://ilga.gov/legi...AID=12&Session= It says storage, Sneaky b**** lol including a 6 shotgun that has a rifle barrel thats my deer shotgun
Patriots & Tyrants Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:14 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:14 PM Hb 1157, amendment infringement 9 (not listed) looks like a assault weapons ban. http://ilga.gov/legi...AID=12&Session= It says storage, Sneaky b**** lol including a 6 shotgun that has a rifle barrel thats my deer shotgun You mean your "assault" shotgun?
RoadyRunner Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:21 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:21 PM Hb 1157, amendment infringement 9 (not listed) looks like a assault weapons ban. http://ilga.gov/legi...AID=12&Session= It says storage,amendment 9 violates Heller... specifically this quote from the majority opinion:"the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional."
Hatchet Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:22 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:22 PM Its friday and the Ides of March. "beware the Ides of March." A fitting warning.
blazzinbird Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:25 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:25 PM She is stupid, I am sure her wife told her she needs to do this
kevinmcc Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:27 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:27 PM I love how they are trying to expanding UUW which will void June 9th without a carry law. I hope their constituents are smart enough to see what they are doing is beating a dead horse.
cls74 Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:30 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:30 PM Looking like this wont be available for the bluestream feed. Doesn't have it starting until noon, past few times they've started earlier than the feed start they haven't had it.
blazzinbird Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:35 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:35 PM Hb 1157, amendment infringement 9 (not listed) looks like a assault weapons ban. http://ilga.gov/legi...AID=12&Session= It says storage, http://ilga.gov/legislation/votehistory/98/house/09800HB1157_03132013_009000A.pdf
mauserme Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:40 PM Author Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:40 PM Hb 1157, amendment infringement 9 (not listed) looks like a assault weapons ban. http://ilga.gov/legi...AID=12&Session= It says storage, I've been leaving out amendments that that have either lost or been withdrawn. Amend 9 on HB1157 lost 3/13/2013 on a vote of 57/58/1. I don't know if that makes things less confusing or more, but it does keep it shorter.
cls74 Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:57 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:57 PM What would happen in the event of a tie during a vote? Say 116 are present and the vote splits 58-58.
Joebie Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:59 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 01:59 PM What would happen in the event of a tie during a vote? Say 116 are present and the vote splits 58-58. Phelps V Acevedo - Street Brawl 2013
mauserme Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:01 PM Author Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:01 PM It depends on how you mean that. Bills need a minimum 60 votes (sometimes 71) in order to pass. Amendments have been passing (more accurately have been adopted) on plurality votes during the recent Weekly Orders of Business.
TyGuy Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:02 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:02 PM IDK for sure but it looks like it must be a majority or plurality, depending on if it is a bill or amendment
cls74 Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:04 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:04 PM Meant more with the plurality we have been seeing of late. Been a while since we've seen a gun bill voted on, been nothing but amendments which I fear is what the new lot of shell bills may be for. Try to make some of the passed amendments individual bills?
cshipley92 Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:06 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:06 PM It depends on how you mean that. Bills need a minimum 60 votes (sometimes 71) in order to pass. Amendments have been passing (more accurately have been adopted) on plurality votes during the recent Weekly Orders of Business. Let me make sure I understand this correctly. An amendment can be attached to a bill with a majority of the vote of those present, so a 59 to 58 vote would attach an amendment to a bill, but the bill requires at least 60 votes to pass out of the House to the Senate, or in the case of a Senate bill being voted on to the Gov. desk. But we need 71 votes to override a potential veto by the Gov, which is why 71 is the magic number for us on a carry bill. Did I get that right?
RoadyRunner Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:08 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:08 PM Pretty sure this is right... You need 71 votes if the bill preempts home rule to initially pass to the Senate. If there is no home rule preemption - you only need 60. If the Governor veto's it - it goes back to the house. Then you need 71 votes to override.
cls74 Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:11 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:11 PM It depends on how you mean that. Bills need a minimum 60 votes (sometimes 71) in order to pass. Amendments have been passing (more accurately have been adopted) on plurality votes during the recent Weekly Orders of Business. Let me make sure I understand this correctly. An amendment can be attached to a bill with a majority of the vote of those present, so a 59 to 58 vote would attach an amendment to a bill, but the bill requires at least 60 votes to pass out of the House to the Senate, or in the case of a Senate bill being voted on to the Gov. desk. But we need 71 votes to override a potential veto by the Gov, which is why 71 is the magic number for us on a carry bill. Did I get that right? You stole my follow up kind of. Our bill starts in the house and passed to the senate and then on to the governor. The governor vetos it and sends it back for vote. Who does the 71 have to come from, senate, house or both. And the 71 votes would need to be ayes in favor of the veto or 71 against it? Maybe I should go sift through the how a bill becomes a law link.
C0untZer0 Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:15 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:15 PM Someone did an extract of just e-mail addresses from the 98th General Assembly Contact Information spreadsheet. Can anyone point me to that list? We have an updated list of representatives' e-mails right? I'm looking for the latest greates version of that list... I'm not asking for it to be cut & pasted here in this thread, just looking for a link to it. Thanks.
cls74 Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:17 PM Posted March 15, 2013 at 02:17 PM Found the answer, never mind.
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