mab22 Posted December 29, 2022 at 01:20 AM Share Posted December 29, 2022 at 01:20 AM On 12/26/2022 at 11:01 AM, crufflesmuth said: Moms' Demand is taking the same strategy from DUI laws.. let's say you're trying out your friends Ford Mustang, like most people, you'll drive like a Chicagoan..weaving in-between lanes.. that alone qualifies you for a DUI arrest and potentially probable cause for the arresting officer.. so that's the logic behind and assault weapon ban.. it's not about saving lives, it's about putting more people in perpetual trouble where they have to spend more time and resources proving their innocence.. it won't be door to door, it will simply start and end at traffic stops.. so that's why we need to fight hard in the courts, because once you're pulled over with this bill, they will absolutely arrest and charge you with a felony and because you have to disclose if you're carrying concealed they will use that to successfully prosecute you, along with the DUI charges and minor traffic violations.. Important reminder, Your CCL shows up in LEADS, so if they are randomly running plates and you pop up as a CCL holder, they might want to check what your carrying. So that’s one way they will be able to enforce things and randomly ruin peoples days. Im basing that off of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted December 30, 2022 at 03:06 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 03:06 PM On 12/28/2022 at 7:20 PM, mab22 said: let's say you're trying out your friends Ford Mustang, like most people, you'll drive like a Chicagoan..weaving in-between lanes.. that alone qualifies you for a DUI arrest and potentially probable cause for the arresting officer.. so that's the logic behind and assault weapon ban.. it's not about saving lives, it's about putting more people in perpetual trouble where they have to spend more time and resources proving their innocence.. Honestly... anyone who drives like a jack rabbit, such as you describe, deserves to be pulled over and has brought such perpetual trouble upon himself. Or herself. And most get off far to easy. Some books should be thrown...! Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4IL Posted December 30, 2022 at 03:51 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 03:51 PM And what is to keep this from becoming a “firearm” checkpoint in which you do not have the right to remain silent? https://jmqlaw.com/what-rights-do-illinois-drivers-have-at-sobriety-checkpoints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted December 30, 2022 at 07:06 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 07:06 PM I think it has to do with what they are looking for at the checkpoint, and has to be a “general interest” from what I am reading but this being Marxinois you never know. https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/criminal/traffic-violations/law-enforcement-checkpoints-and-roadblocks-are-they-legal.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4IL Posted December 30, 2022 at 07:16 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 07:16 PM In the interest of officer safety, the first question at the DUI checkpoint will be “Are there any weapons in the car?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted December 30, 2022 at 09:34 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 09:34 PM I wish ya'll wouldn't give them any ideas on enforcement, they may, or may not have had on their own. 😷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted December 30, 2022 at 09:39 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 09:39 PM On 12/30/2022 at 3:34 PM, John Q Public said: I wish ya'll wouldn't give them any ideas on enforcement, they may, or may not have had on their own. 😷 It's like that line in some forums - "Don't feed the trolls!" 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted December 30, 2022 at 11:13 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 11:13 PM On 12/30/2022 at 9:51 AM, Liberty4IL said: And what is to keep this from becoming a “firearm” checkpoint in which you do not have the right to remain silent? https://jmqlaw.com/what-rights-do-illinois-drivers-have-at-sobriety-checkpoints/ There's nothing in that link that says a driver's right to remain silent is forfeited at a sobriety checkpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted December 30, 2022 at 11:23 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 11:23 PM Again, stop dissecting this stuff. If I ask you must tell.... STOP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted December 30, 2022 at 11:39 PM Share Posted December 30, 2022 at 11:39 PM On 12/30/2022 at 5:23 PM, John Q Public said: Again, stop dissecting this stuff. If I ask you must tell.... STOP! Please. That's not dissecting, if you are referring to my post above. It's common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted December 31, 2022 at 08:02 PM Share Posted December 31, 2022 at 08:02 PM No not directed at anyone there. What might seem common sense to us might not be to others. Again, not directed at anyone. JQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted January 1, 2023 at 04:42 AM Share Posted January 1, 2023 at 04:42 AM "Don't talk to cops." Runs about 45 minutes and is 10 years old but still valid. From a St. Louis law firm. "Short & sweet" at about 2 minutes. https://www.thehammerlawfirm.com/video-center/tips-tutorials/dont-talk-to-cops/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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