Can I buy a rifle out of state in MN? Or am I not able to as an IL resident?

[armadroid]

Will be in MN soon, might pick up a Henry Golden Boy if I can.

[Chief Illiniwek]

Sure, you can buy it there. It'll have to be sent to your FFL of choice here where you'll have to fill out a 4473. Shipping and whatever your FFL charges for a transfer fee will up the cost a bit.

[Prairie Eagle]

Long guns are not the problem, pistols are.

[thedriver]

You'll have to look up MN. law, they may allow you to purchase the rifle but you need to do some research beforehand

[Prairie Eagle]

You'll have to look up MN. law, they may allow you to purchase the rifle but you need to do some research beforehand

Yeah check MN laws. Many states will allow you to take immediate possession, at the point of transfer (from the local FFL) on long guns. Worst case is it has to be shipped to your IL FFL.

[Anonymous One]

Illinois law allows long gun purchases only in "contiguous states", the states that share a border with Illinois. You can buy and take delivery of a long gun in Indiana, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Missouri, & Iowa. But, you will still have to wait 24 hours before you pick it up.

[Prairie Eagle]

Personally, I'd follow the laws of the state you are buying it in (I am sure the seller will be well versed in that and council you) , then being a free citizen who can travel without "show me your papers" I'd come home and mind my own business as I wish more would do.

[mic6010]

Delete.

[sleepercaprice1]

Illinois law allows long gun purchases only in "contiguous states", the states that share a border with Illinois. You can buy and take delivery of a long gun in Indiana, Wisconsin, Kentucky, Missouri, & Iowa. But, you will still have to wait 24 hours before you pick it up.

I believe this is the correct answer although I know of people buying rifles in non-bordering states. I think this is a law unique to Illinois.

[Prairie Eagle]

Yeah, follow that.

[Anonymous One]

Here's the law, this topic is covered in the first paragraph.

 

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=043000650K3a

[Prairie Eagle]

Yep best to follow the citizen lawyers, good luck and have a great trip!

[InterestedBystander]

While Federal law allows, I thought IL restricted long guns to adjoining states.

 

edit - what Thiokol said 6 minutes ago...Im slower finding the actual supporting legislation these days...must be getting old :-)

[Anonymous One]

While Federal law allows, I thought IL restricted long guns to adjoining states.

You are correct. See my post above.

[Prairie Eagle]

 

Personally, I'd follow the laws of the state you are buying it in (I am sure the seller will be well versed in that and council you) , then being a free citizen who can travel without "show me your papers" I'd come home and mind my own business as I wish more would do.

Given that the local antis regularly watch this forum, it's probably not the wisest choice to advocate breaking the law.

 

You are correct - go internet lawyer, go!

[Anonymous One]

Personally, I'd follow the laws of the state you are buying it in (I am sure the seller will be well versed in that and council you) , then being a free citizen who can travel without "show me your papers" I'd come home and mind my own business as I wish more would do.

Given that the local antis regularly watch this forum, it's probably not the wisest choice to advocate breaking the law.

[Prairie Eagle]

^{Best to follow the law, however I have always wondered how IL law can govern what you do in another jurisdiction? As long as you don't break any laws in the jurisdiction you are in at the time, how does IL enforce it's law in that jurisdiction? This would be like committing an IL traffic offense in a state where that infraction is allowed, and then getting a ticket when you come back to IL.}

 

It is always best to follow the bullcrud laws on the internet.

[DoYouFeelLucky]

^{Best to follow the law, however I have always wondered how IL law can govern what you do in another jurisdiction? As long as you don't break any laws in the jurisdiction you are in at the time, how does IL enforce it's law in that jurisdiction? This would be like committing an IL traffic offense in a state where that infraction is allowed, and then getting a ticket when you come back to IL.}

[DoYouFeelLucky]

 

^{Best to follow the law, however I have always wondered how IL law can govern what you do in another jurisdiction? As long as you don't break any laws in the jurisdiction you are in at the time, how does IL enforce it's law in that jurisdiction? This would be like committing an IL traffic offense in a state where that infraction is allowed, and then getting a ticket when you come back to IL.}

 

It is always best to follow the bullcrud laws on the internet.

 

I agree! My question was more on legal theory and how one state can make law(s) that govern what you can do in another state?

[Prairie Eagle]

Yep well we can debate till the cows come home how legit this "law" is, but it is the law and once the grannie panties show up it shuts any discussion down.

 

You make your choices, I'll make mine.

[InterestedBystander]

BATF says laws of each state must be followed

 

 

Q: From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA?

 

A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee’s premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes.

 

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and (5), 922((3), 27 CFR 478.29 and 478.30]

[Prairie Eagle]

For the record, I am publicly against the OP picking up a lever action golden boy while on vacation. Forget about it armadroid, have a great trip. If you want, ship it back to Madiganistan go through another FFL transfer and do the proper BS dance. For the record ;-)

[Prairie Eagle]

I'm guessing No.

[armadroid]

So is this a go or not? I'm lost.

[Prairie Eagle]

Ok thanks

 

Off course, if ya want ship it back to an FFL here, and do the transfer in IL. There is nothing wrong with that.

[armadroid]

Ok thanks

[armadroid]

I was just wondering in case I found something I liked at the shop I'll just get it in IL.

[Anonymous One]

So is this a go or not? I'm lost.

No guessing about it. The answer is no. Just drive through Wisconsin and buy it. Spend the night and pick it up the next day.

[quackersmacker]

Here's the law, this topic is covered in the first paragraph.

 

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=043000650K3a

That does not state that an IL resident cannot buy a rifle in a non-adjoining state from an FFL. In fact, the last sentence of what you quoted says that "Any transaction under this Section is subject to the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C. 922 ((3))."

 

So my advice would be to make sure there's an FFL on the MN side of the trade.

[Prairie Eagle]

 

 

Here's the law, this topic is covered in the first paragraph.

 

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=043000650K3a

That does not state that an IL resident cannot buy a rifle in a non-adjoining state from an FFL. In fact, the last sentence of what you quoted says that "Any transaction under this Section is subject to the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (18 U.S.C. 922 ( (3))."

 

So my advice would be to make sure there's an FFL on the MN side of the trade.

 

Private party transfers across state lines without the use of an FFL on the buyer's end are prohibited by Federal law. By default, the paragraph cited above is a tacit reference to purchasing a long gun from an FFL holder.

 

 

He wasn't talking about private party transfers einstein.