Glock43

Is this CLEO thing a late addition or update? I read some of the news of these NPRMs in the weeks after these rules were first proposed and I never remember the CLEO sign off. Ernie also put out a short Reddit on the FFL “telephone” transfer and it was not in his article.

And “they” rarely recover those that they do lose! 😃

Euler’s description sounds like the chicken and egg conundrum. Who came first? So members have no ability to effect any change in the organization? I get the NRA 5 year voting rule - kind of like a legal resident vs a “citizen”who can vote. But this seems crazy!

I have been a Life Member of the ISRA for about 10 years or so. Can people fill me in the ISRA governance structure? I see a board and three “executives”. How are the executives elected? By the board? And how are board members elected? I have never received a ballot over the years and have never heard of anyone running for the board. The ISRA website is pretty coy on any details. Todd, after you stop laughing, can you fill us in on anything? From your posts over the years I get the feeling they are in even deeper muck than the NRA is or was!

PS . I’m proud to be member of the “reckless gun lobby”

A more general question: is Viramontes the “best” case challenging “AW” bans? Or do some of the other similar cases nationwide have a better case and/or a better legal team?

I couldn’t resist…

I understand logic isn’t their strong suit, but why is HB4471 being pushed anymore? Glock, earlier this year, already caved to California and changed the design of their pistols to “eliminate” them being converted with a “switch”.

Does that mean that shootings in Chicago are going to spike this evening? 🙄🙄

You mentioned that you voluntarily went to rehab. So the blue highlight should not be an issue. But was your rehab in patient or outpatient? See my previous message (AA vs “Betty Ford”). This is red highlighted section. In patient will likely be a disqualification. Out patient shouldn’t.

https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/FOID.aspx I have not been convicted of any Felony under the laws of this or any other jurisdiction. I have not been adjudicated as a mental defective. I have not been a patient in a mental institution or any part of a medical facility for the treatment of mental illness within the past 5 years. I am not intellectually disabled or developmentally disabled. I have not within the past year (preceding the date of this application) used or been addicted to any controlled substance or narcotics in violation of state or federal law. I am not subject of an existing Order of Protection or a No Contact/No Stalking Order. I have not within the past 5 years been convicted of battery, assault, aggravated assault, violation of an order of protection, or a substantially similar offense in which a firearm was used or possessed. I have not been convicted of domestic battery (felony or misdemeanor), aggravated domestic battery or a substantially similar offense. I have not been adjudicated by a court as a mental defective or ordered by a court, board or authorized entity to in-patient or out-patient mental health treatment. I am not a non-citizen who is unlawfully present in the United States. I have not within the past year failed a drug test for a drug for which I did not have a prescription. I have not been admitted to the United States under a non-immigrant visa of the Immigration and Nationality Act. I have never renounced my citizenship as a citizen of the United States. I have never been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions. I am not a fugitive from justice.

Was your “rehab” in-patient or out-patient? In-patient = “Betty Ford Clinic” hospital stay out-patient = AA meetings Illinois denies CCL for in-patient care, not out-patient care. BUT, this same rule also applies to your FOID card. If you had in-patient care, applying for your CCL will trigger another background check review. If they see an in-patient record during this review, not only would your CCL be denied, they could go back and revoke your existing FOID was well.

It doesn’t solve the post office “policy”. (Bob attempting to ship his Kimber back to the factory) Miss Friendly (post office employee) - “what’s in the package”. Bob - “a pistol” Miss Friendly - “sorry we can’t ship that for you”

Semi-related question: How does one ship out a “PICA” firearm out to the manufacturer for repair? (Or more specifically - getting it back!)