I contacted Bill Brady

[bhannah]

Bill

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

Are you a gun owner?

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

 

He did reply

 

Brian,

 

The answer to each of your three questions is yes. I belong to both NRA and ISRA, I do own a gun for hunting, and I do support giving Illinois citizens the same protection through concealed carry as the citizens of 48 other states enjoy.

 

Bill Brady

[TTIN]

Bill

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

Are you a gun owner?

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

 

He did reply

 

Brian,

 

The answer to each of your three questions is yes. I belong to both NRA and ISRA, I do own a gun for hunting, and I do support giving Illinois citizens the same protection through concealed carry as the citizens of 48 other states enjoy.

 

Bill Brady

 

 

Yeah,he'd be the one if we can just get him elected.

[2nd amendment forever]

Bill

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

Are you a gun owner?

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

 

He did reply

 

Brian,

 

The answer to each of your three questions is yes. I belong to both NRA and ISRA, I do own a gun for hunting, and I do support giving Illinois citizens the same protection through concealed carry as the citizens of 48 other states enjoy.

 

Bill Brady

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Tvandermyde]

I'm sure at some point we'll have a disscusion of all the candidates. Right now the field looks like:

 

Dan Proft

Kirk Dillard

Bill Brady

Matt Murphy

Bob Schillerstom

Mark Kirk -- if Lisa runs for the Senate

 

there are a couple of others, but I don't consider them viable. Buti'm thinking I missed one other.

[junglebob]

I'm sure at some point we'll have a disscusion of all the candidates. Right now the field looks like:

 

Dan Proft

Kirk Dillard

Bill Brady

Matt Murphy

Bob Schillerstom

Mark Kirk -- if Lisa runs for the Senate

 

there are a couple of others, but I don't consider them viable. Buti'm thinking I missed one other.

Is that the Mark Kirk who is a 10th district U.S. Congressman, who just made "Weasel of the Week" at www.watcherofweasels.org They list him as a pro-gun control, RINO, sellout, phony, who was one of 7 republicans who voted for cap and trade.

 

I just found that watcherofweasels website, I wonder how many other Illinois legislators I will find there.

[Xwing]

Bill

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

Are you a gun owner?

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

 

He did reply

 

Brian,

 

The answer to each of your three questions is yes. I belong to both NRA and ISRA, I do own a gun for hunting, and I do support giving Illinois citizens the same protection through concealed carry as the citizens of 48 other states enjoy.

 

Bill Brady

 

Cool! He's got my vote. Of course, I'd vote for anyone over Quinn.

[SmershAgent]

I'm sure at some point we'll have a disscusion of all the candidates. Right now the field looks like:

 

Dan Proft

Kirk Dillard

Bill Brady

Matt Murphy

Bob Schillerstom

Mark Kirk -- if Lisa runs for the Senate

 

there are a couple of others, but I don't consider them viable. Buti'm thinking I missed one other.

 

Did you overlook Rutherford, or do you consider him not viable?

[cowboyflyfisher]

I'm sure at some point we'll have a disscusion of all the candidates. Right now the field looks like:

 

Dan Proft

Kirk Dillard

Bill Brady

Matt Murphy

Bob Schillerstom

Mark Kirk -- if Lisa runs for the Senate

 

there are a couple of others, but I don't consider them viable. Buti'm thinking I missed one other.

 

Did you overlook Rutherford, or do you consider him not viable?

I thought Rutherford was aiming for treasurer. I've been in contact with the Brady Campaign (the BILL Brady campaign) for a few months. I think he'd make a great governor.

[Tvandermyde]

Rutherford is running for something else.

 

I think there are a few on the list that are not viable, but time will tell and we'll see how it shakes out.

 

We can have a disscussion about the pros and cons of each. I would urge everybody to take a wait and see attitude before just commiting to a candidate. They all have their pluses and they have a few minuses -- including Brady.

 

I know all of them. have worked with all of them in one way or another. We still have a month before they start circulating petitions and another 90 days after that to file. We got some time, but first we need to start looking at some of the state house and senate races.

[bhannah]

Rutherford is running for something else.

 

I think there are a few on the list that are not viable, but time will tell and we'll see how it shakes out.

 

We can have a disscussion about the pros and cons of each. I would urge everybody to take a wait and see attitude before just commiting to a candidate. They all have their pluses and they have a few minuses -- including Brady.

 

I know all of them. have worked with all of them in one way or another. We still have a month before they start circulating petitions and another 90 days after that to file. We got some time, but first we need to start looking at some of the state house and senate races.

 

I agree I was just trying to get the same three questions answered by this Adam whateverski guy.

I emailed them I put them up on his facebook site he just wont answer... So I thought I would get them out to Brady and the others..

[Tvandermyde]

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

 

that doesn't mean a lot to me as a lot of people candidates think for the price of a membership you owe them an endorsement. I'm more impressed by the guy who doesn't belong, may not own a gun but believes int he consitution and articulates the right to keep and bear arms. Kinda like all those first time gunnies that are buy stuff. they didjn't own one, but thought it was there right to and now are chooasing to exercise that right.

 

Are you a gun owner?

kinda like above, but a gun guys may be able to articulate the tech aspects to non-gunnies. Remeber we have a number of shotgun guys that don't like black rifles. Look at AHSA and what they try to portray as gun owners.

 

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

good question as it indicates other things and how the administration will act in other capacities towards gun owners. give me a solid pro-gun guy and we can make a lot of headway -- without legislation.

[bhannah]

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

 

that doesn't mean a lot to me as a lot of people candidates think for the price of a membership you owe them an endorsement. I'm more impressed by the guy who doesn't belong, may not own a gun but believes int he consitution and articulates the right to keep and bear arms. Kinda like all those first time gunnies that are buy stuff. they didjn't own one, but thought it was there right to and now are chooasing to exercise that right.

 

Are you a gun owner?

kinda like above, but a gun guys may be able to articulate the tech aspects to non-gunnies. Remeber we have a number of shotgun guys that don't like black rifles. Look at AHSA and what they try to portray as gun owners.

 

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

good question as it indicates other things and how the administration will act in other capacities towards gun owners. give me a solid pro-gun guy and we can make a lot of headway -- without legislation.

 

If you notice those were the only questions on the email. I never stated what side of the fence I was on. That e-mail could have come from an anti as well. If a candidate cannot stand up for what he believes in he is not worth my time. I am tired of the candidates always answering trying to please both sides. Get some balls and stand up.

The questions were left vague for a reason. The way a person answers is allot more important than the question.

[ryr8828]

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

 

that doesn't mean a lot to me as a lot of people candidates think for the price of a membership you owe them an endorsement. I'm more impressed by the guy who doesn't belong, may not own a gun but believes int he consitution and articulates the right to keep and bear arms. Kinda like all those first time gunnies that are buy stuff. they didjn't own one, but thought it was there right to and now are chooasing to exercise that right.

 

Are you a gun owner?

kinda like above, but a gun guys may be able to articulate the tech aspects to non-gunnies. Remeber we have a number of shotgun guys that don't like black rifles. Look at AHSA and what they try to portray as gun owners.

 

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

good question as it indicates other things and how the administration will act in other capacities towards gun owners. give me a solid pro-gun guy and we can make a lot of headway -- without legislation.

 

If you notice those were the only questions on the email. I never stated what side of the fence I was on. That e-mail could have come from an anti as well. If a candidate cannot stand up for what he believes in he is not worth my time. I am tired of the candidates always answering trying to please both sides. Get some balls and stand up.

The questions were left vague for a reason. The way a person answers is allot more important than the question.

I've met Rutherford and Brady. Rutherford doesn't impress me near as much as Brady.

 

I'm slightly troubled by the mention of "a gun for hunting". Sounds like he's hedging his bets there somewhat. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

[bhannah]

Are you a member of the NRA or ISRA?

 

that doesn't mean a lot to me as a lot of people candidates think for the price of a membership you owe them an endorsement. I'm more impressed by the guy who doesn't belong, may not own a gun but believes int he consitution and articulates the right to keep and bear arms. Kinda like all those first time gunnies that are buy stuff. they didjn't own one, but thought it was there right to and now are chooasing to exercise that right.

 

Are you a gun owner?

kinda like above, but a gun guys may be able to articulate the tech aspects to non-gunnies. Remeber we have a number of shotgun guys that don't like black rifles. Look at AHSA and what they try to portray as gun owners.

 

Will you support concealed carry for Illinois?

good question as it indicates other things and how the administration will act in other capacities towards gun owners. give me a solid pro-gun guy and we can make a lot of headway -- without legislation.

 

If you notice those were the only questions on the email. I never stated what side of the fence I was on. That e-mail could have come from an anti as well. If a candidate cannot stand up for what he believes in he is not worth my time. I am tired of the candidates always answering trying to please both sides. Get some balls and stand up.

The questions were left vague for a reason. The way a person answers is allot more important than the question.

I've met Rutherford and Brady. Rutherford doesn't impress me near as much as Brady.

 

I'm slightly troubled by the mention of "a gun for hunting". Sounds like he's hedging his bets there somewhat. The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting.

 

Exactly what i was talking about with the vague questions.

Brady at least answered the questions.

"A gun For Hunting" was the only thing i took notice to.

He volenteered that info and it was not even asked of him.

 

Tvandermyde answered the questions but with alot of qualifers, notice the black rifle referance. I never asked what he owned I don't care. But to volenteer that info says a lot.

 

give me a solid pro-gun guy and we can make a lot of headway -- without legislation.[/

The guestion was in requards to right to carry in illinois. How are you going to get this without legislation?

[Tvandermyde]

"The guestion was in requards to right to carry in illinois. How are you going to get this without legislation?"

 

My response was that someone who supports right to carry, shows a deferance towards our positions. There are things that are done as a matter of policy, not as a matter of law. With a true pro-gun Second Amendment supporter as Governor, there are things that can be changed by a wave of the hand, directive or executive order. I won't go into those here so as not to give the otherside any ideas.

 

Case in point the Bush admin was working on the national parks rule. Now the federal process of rule making is a lot more complicated than here but with a friendly administration, you can get a lot done. One little tidbit here is this, imagine a Dept of State Police that opposed the Mayor's gun bills instead of supporting them.

 

Chew on that, then think about what could be possible.

 

FYI here is some more looks at the Gov race.

 

 

Ticket Time Lisa Madigan for Senate Opens Up Playing Field

Thomas F. Roeser 2 July 2009 No Comment

Lisa.

 

Attorney General Lisa Madigan will run for the U. S. Senate against incumbent Roland Burris (who is seen as a sure loser). Why when Lisa and her family have long felt that the governorship is in her destiny? Four reasons: (1) The gubernatorial situation has become so tumultuous with Pat Quinn that even Lisa will have a tough time getting a united party behind her even if she beats Quinn for the nomination. (2) The Dems have a lot of goo-goo’s who want higher taxes to pay for social needs (unlike the state as a whole) and Quinn will have their favor. (3) In contrast running for the Senate should be a breeze for her-with Burris cascading into single digits and the White House pledging super-strong backing in this blue state. (4) Lisa’s likely election to the Senate means that her poppa won’t leave the legislative fray, a circumstance he has not been too keen about doing.

 

Dillard.

 

The phenomenal chaos between the Democratic governor and the Democratic legislature is torpedoing the confidence of voters that one-party dominance in the state house can work. Thus it strengthens the possibility…even approaches a probability…that Republicans can regain control of the Executive Mansion next year. My own preference aside, it looks like major elements within the party…including the money…will be on Kirk Dillard for reasons that (a) he’s tested, ( is extraordinarily knowledgeable about the state, © is articulate and (d) is seen as acceptable to all GOP factions including so-called moderates despite the fact that on social issues he has been almost 100%–which is an amazing achievement. Usually someone who is ace-high on social issues and pleasing to conservatives is zilch with moderates and vice-versa. Not so with Dillard.

 

At the same time it should be said that someone who has made a surprisingly good impression on the stump and with libertarians is Adam Andrzejewski (An-GEE-EFF-ski) the fresh-faced boy-wonder entrepreneur from Wheaton who appears like the proverbial breath of fresh air, never having run for office before…appealing to youth…increasingly a group that so hates professional politicians they would prefer a Buddhist monk from Tibet. DuPage county board chairman Bob Schillerstrom is perceived to be weighed down with baggage with standard pay-to-play supporters…people who hold down contracts having ponied up for his campaigns: appearing to be the same-old, same-old. Joe Birkett is suspected as not running for governor in the long run but for AG despite what he says now.

 

Bill Brady is a dud. Not on top of the issues; uses so-called charisma to substitute for vapid generalities. But still a favorite with some downstate. Yet since he voted for Christine Rodogno for Republican leader over Dillard, his future is behind him.

 

But somebody with a future…although not for governor this time…is Dan Proft. Not because of his stunning resume but because of his superb issue-phrasing and issue smarts. Where he will fit no one knows but he is a crowd-pleaser.

 

The Other Kirk.

 

The other Kirk-Mark-is in big-big trouble in the 10th. Shows you how unpredictable politics is. Initially he stalled announcing for the Senate because he was afraid his divorce proceedings would turn nasty and personal. Didn’t happen. No sooner did he reconsider than the House vote on Cap and Trade came up. Rahm Emanuel, Mark’s friend, in the past could be counted on…at least Mark Kirk thinks…as willing to trade a vote here and there for the Dems as pretext to get an easy Democratic candidate in the 10th for Mark to beat. Same thing popped up this time. With the Hamlet-like Kirk going this-way-and-that on either running for the Senate or sticking with the House, the Iago figure of Emanuel slunk in the door and said that if Mark did them a good turn on Cap ‘n Trade maybe a clunker could be found to run against him in the House. Sounded good to Kirk no matter what he ended up doing.

 

His rationale which sounded reasonable at the time: Republicans have long been tolerant of Mark’s defections because they know he has a tough district and so they wink at his apostasy. But this time Mark didn’t understand the fervor Republicans had with beating Cap `n Trade. When Mark voted for it as only one of eight Republicans in the House and it passed by only eight votes, the dismay of business leaders turned into white-hot anger. They could take Mark’s defections on social policy which business types don’t care much about anyhow-but Cap `n Trade hits them in their wallets, can jeopardize the fragile health of the economy…and the old familiar word “betrayal” started to overshadow the issue. They ask: what’s the use of our placating Mark Kirk if he’s just another Dem vote anyhow? So he’s going to get a tough primary opponent.

 

And paradoxically, Mark Kirk is more likely to go down to defeat to a conservative in the primary than if he were to meet any of the clunkers Emanuel can round up.

 

Strangely enough, if Kirk were a gambler…even a prudent risk-taker (which he doesn’t appear to be)… he’d take a 90-to-l chance and run for the Senate against Lisa since he’s likely to be dead-on-arrival by losing his base in the 10th. His knowledge of national security issues is impressive. But the lad with the cute little button nose is a Hamlet and so he’ll stick in the 10th and take his chances…which aren’t good. I couldn’t vote for him for the Senate but he could round up enough ticket liberal squish-switch hitters to make it in a pinch.

 

My GOP Ticket Pix.

 

Thinking about a balanced ticket…here’s what I’d pick as of today for the Republican state ticket-and why.

 

Governor: Sen. Kirk Dillard. Social and fiscal conservative with a warmly thoughtful personality who generates a “listening to you” mode. Also as a former top aide to Jim Edgar conveys a broader image than just conservative-although in truth he’s more conservative than was his old boss. An ideal combination with pro-lifers, gun people and still a healthy middle-of-the-road appeal. The disaster the Dems are cooking up may well make him Illinois’ 41st governor. Possible negative? Not many for a politician who’s been around this long…but possibly needs to step up the energy on the campaign trail since as a thoughtful type he’s more reflective and slower-moving-but this can be improved with good campaign management. DuPage county.

 

Lt. Governor: Kathy Salvi. Mother of six, lawyer, charming, even beauteous. Strong base with pro-lifers, social conservatives, Catholics; , has disagreed with husband Al on inordinate gun control. Good speaker to-boot. Negative: A personal injury lawyer, a little verbose. Lake county.

 

Attorney General: Rep. Jim Durkin (R-Western Springs). Excellent legislator and campaigner who without much money at all ran against Sen. Dick Durbin. In primary contest he was endorsed by every major newspaper. Has gained further prestige since with his role in the impeachment of Blagojevich. Social conservative but he doesn’t go to bed every night and arise every morning with those issues in mind. Catholic. Cook county.

 

Secretary of State: Dr. Eric Wallace. Time for an energetic black conservative who’s got a tough challenge against icon Jesse White: but running here would be a “get-acquainted” opportunity for the state from a constituency rarely heard-from: African American pro-enterprise intellectuals (Wallace has a Ph.D). Social conservative. Evangelical Protestant. Negatives: not all that well known; running against great odds by facing White. Cook county.

 

Treasurer: State Sen. Dan Rutherford (R-Genoa). Attractive speaker from the Pontiac area who makes a spellbinding speech; ran for secretary of state previously. Protestant. Knows a lot about fiscal policy and taxes. Negatives: None but that’s not because some irresponsibles haven’t tried. Intrusive attacks on non-governmental matters have backfired into a positive for him–resulting in a decided net-plus. Pro-life; supporter of gay rights. Protestant. Livingston county.

 

Comptroller: Adam Andrzejewski for all the reasons listed in paragraph 2 under subhead “Dillard.” Surprisingly good on the stump; has a boyish touch of innocence that gives off a good government glow. Negatives: too green to have any. But he should remember saying he knows nothing about politics is good only one time around-the first time. From Wheaton. Cook county.

 

___________

 

On U. S. Senator, the decision of Lisa Madigan to seek that seat means that Illinois’ most popular public official will be very tough to beat-but she’s not insuperable…since the gloss is rapidly wearing off Obama and his ideas. Rep. Mark Kirk is dead in the water. Given his disastrous vote on Cap `n Trade he has lost…at least now, maybe for all time…his following on business issues, and his good background on defense issues is becoming irrelevant due to his frittering away even his so-called moderate following.

 

The logical candidate against Lisa is one who can challenge her and the Obama people on its weakest point-the economy. That would be…

 

Brian Wesbury, 51, suburban Cook county economist (supply-side) honored in 2004 by “USA Today” as one of the top ten economic forecasters in the United States and ranked by “The Wall Street Journal” as the nation’s preeminent economic forecaster in 2001. He’s published regularly in the WSJ and is a CNBC contributor. McGraw-Hill published his first book, “The New Era of Wealth” in 1999. He’s attractive and speaks well-in fact makes much of his living on the stump explaining economics in easy-to-understand, everyday terms. He’s current chief economist for First Trust Portfolios, a financial services firm located in Wheaton. Previously he was chief economist for Griffin, Kubik, Stephens & Thompson, a Chicago investment bank. When Republicans controlled Congress, he was chief economist for the Joint Economic Committee in 1995, directing and advising committee members on policy matters regarding the economy.

 

He has a BA in economics from the University of Montana (1981) and received an MBA from Northwestern University’s Kellogg school of management. He’s married, a father and is an evangelical Protestant.

 

What’s little known about Wesbury is that he ran statewide when he was a very young tadpole…age 31…as candidate for lieutenant governor with Steve Baer who unsuccessfully challenged Jim Edgar. The campaign was under-funded and is forgotten…no lasting harm went to Wesbury and if any remains it’s on Baer. Baer stressed social issues against Edgar; Wesbury stressed the economy. Wesbury’s charisma is not unlike Art Laffer’s.

 

I have no idea as to whether Wesbury would do it but he just might-because running for the U. S. Senate in a key states would provide him with even more visibility and probably…certainly…some national exposure, basis his economic prominence.

 

Negatives: One…which is also Laffer’s…but it can be handled. Repeatedly, until the economic meltdown hit, he declared the country can avoid recession and people should buy stocks “because the market basically today is priced for almost the end of the world.” But a precondition to his analysis was that for the economy to continue growth three things were needed: economic freedom, low taxes, open markets and a supportive governmental infrastructure. He can easily make the case…and as in the WSJ…that government was the culprit in the housing debacle and most everything else concerning the economy. He has been amply supported in this by the WSJ editorial board.

 

The second negative is that the last time I saw him he was wearing a beard. Quick, the razor, Jeeves!

 

There’s no doubt that running against Lisa would be tough-but it’d be tough for anybody. And I just have this notion in the back of my head that someone who pushes Obama as she will is going to sound like the same-old, same-old.

 

**

Tom Roeser is the Chairman of the Chicago Daily Observer Editorial Board

[Charles Vandercamp]

"The guestion was in requards to right to carry in illinois. How are you going to get this without legislation?"

Vandermyde answered:

 

My response was that someone who supports right to carry, shows a deferance towards our positions. There are things that are done as a matter of policy, not as a matter of law. With a true pro-gun Second Amendment supporter as Governor, there are things that can be changed by a wave of the hand, directive or executive order. I won't go into those here so as not to give the otherside any ideas.

 

You have to realize is that Mr. Vandermyde is a contract lobbyist whose job depends on "success."

Advocating something he does not think he can be deliver on {Right To Carry} means failure for him so he will not push Right To Carry in Illinois.

 

You can ask him about RTC until you turn blue in the face and you will get the same blow-off answers as above.

[2nd amendment forever]

"The guestion was in requards to right to carry in illinois. How are you going to get this without legislation?"

Vandermyde answered:

 

My response was that someone who supports right to carry, shows a deferance towards our positions. There are things that are done as a matter of policy, not as a matter of law. With a true pro-gun Second Amendment supporter as Governor, there are things that can be changed by a wave of the hand, directive or executive order. I won't go into those here so as not to give the otherside any ideas.

 

You have to realize is that Mr. Vandermyde is a contract lobbyist whose job depends on "success."

Advocating something he does not think he can be deliver on {Right To Carry} means failure for him so he will not push Right To Carry in Illinois.

 

You can ask him about RTC until you turn blue in the face and you will get the same blow-off answers as above.

I'm just going to sit here on the sidelines and observe......

[Tvandermyde]

Charles --

 

I'll tell you a little secret -- your wrong. My contract ith NRA rests on providing them real time info and a good assement of what is happening while carrying out my instructions to defend our rights and take as much ground back as is possible at the given time.

 

We lost a right to carry fight a couple of times. It did not impact my work for NRA. If the roll call went up on the board with only 30 votes, it would not impact my work for them. In Illinois I don't expect to win every fight with this climate. But I expect to be in every fight and let the other side know we were there. They will have to scrap for every inch they try and take.

 

A few have a very simplistic idea of why RTC has not moved. I've explained in detail at ISRA board meetings, two Illinois carry meetings and to anyone else who cares to pull up a chair and listen how and why we are where we are.

 

Ask those that came down to talk at Brown's about not only what I said, but staff members who showed up on their own.

 

I choose not to devulge detailed strategies here on an open forum wher the other side lurks hoping to pick up intel. Ask Abolt about our phone conversations and sometimes debates.

 

We were fully prepared to make a move on RTC this year. They saw were were making progress in the Senate and tossed us a minkey wrench. Even though we were going to loose we called the bill in committee. That alone seems to rebuff your premis. And had it gotten to the floor we would have called it for a vote.

 

But again I will not lay out our strategy for eveything here. i kow a few people, and to those I converse and explain our/my thinking on things.

 

i'll be happy to have another meeting(s) some evening and we can talk about it.

 

Since it's come up I'll start thinking about putting a couple together.

[Charles Vandercamp]

Charles --

 

I'll tell you a little secret -- your wrong. My contract ith NRA rests on providing them real time info and a good assement of what is happening while carrying out my instructions to defend our rights and take as much ground back as is possible at the given time.

 

We lost a right to carry fight a couple of times. It did not impact my work for NRA. If the roll call went up on the board with only 30 votes, it would not impact my work for them. In Illinois I don't expect to win every fight with this climate. But I expect to be in every fight and let the other side know we were there. They will have to scrap for every inch they try and take.

 

A few have a very simplistic idea of why RTC has not moved. I've explained in detail at ISRA board meetings, two Illinois carry meetings and to anyone else who cares to pull up a chair and listen how and why we are where we are.

 

Ask those that came down to talk at Brown's about not only what I said, but staff members who showed up on their own.

 

I choose not to devulge detailed strategies here on an open forum wher the other side lurks hoping to pick up intel. Ask Abolt about our phone conversations and sometimes debates.

 

We were fully prepared to make a move on RTC this year. They saw were were making progress in the Senate and tossed us a minkey wrench. Even though we were going to loose we called the bill in committee. That alone seems to rebuff your premis. And had it gotten to the floor we would have called it for a vote.

 

But again I will not lay out our strategy for eveything here. i kow a few people, and to those I converse and explain our/my thinking on things.

 

i'll be happy to have another meeting(s) some evening and we can talk about it.

 

Since it's come up I'll start thinking about putting a couple together.

 

Mr. Vandermyde,

 

When I stepped out of lurching mode above one of my points was that you do not give direct answers to direct questions, as you showed us above.

Some examples?

You speaks of pushing the Senate RTC bill but make no mention of actively killing the House bill which had much more grass roots support and the endorsement of the Illinois Sherrifs Association.

I was enthusiastic about attending the Countryside meeting you held but when I aksed if there was a chance of us changing your position on HB2257 I got a 3 paragraphs non-answer. You want to tell us "the way things are" but will not listen to the grass roots.

 

You ask for our support but will not let us in on the secret squirrel stuff and expect us to trust you.

Maybe some do.

Mr. Vandermyde, the thing that makes you so effective in Springfield. your ability to speak the same language as politicians, makes you sound evasive when speaking to grass roots activists.

 

I'm gonna crawl back in my lurkers mode now.

Have a safe and happy Indepenance day Sir.

[ryr8828]

One thing I know about Kirk Dillard is that he spoke highly of Obama more than once. this screams rino. He did this during the Presidential campaign none the less.

 

Ty, maybe you could give me some evidence of Brady being a dullard in order to change my mind. If you don't it's just some more dirty politics. Show me that Dillard actually has conservative values, or that Brady is actually a dullard, or get ready to prove your charges at the next meeting you have that I am able to attend.

 

We get enough bull**** from the democrats without getting it from people I think are for us. Gun rights are one thing, I know Brady s for that

Where is Dillard on abortion? Having my gun rights means little if the next generation is destroyed at will.

[spec4]

If Dillard "spoke highly of Obama", that's it for me. Is three any member of the GOP in IL who is not a RINO?

[mikew]

Ty, maybe you could give me some evidence of Brady being a dullard in order to change my mind. If you don't it's just some more dirty politics.

It's not TVandermyde's words, rather that of Thomas Roeser.

Todd did not say that he agreed with him.

 

Todd did not include a link, to quell confusion, I will.

 

Chicago Daily Observer

[Tvandermyde]

[\quote]Mr. Vandermyde,

 

When I stepped out of lurching mode above one of my points was that you do not give direct answers to direct questions, as you showed us above.

Some examples?

You speaks of pushing the Senate RTC bill but make no mention of actively killing the House bill which had much more grass roots support and the endorsement of the Illinois Sherrifs Association.

I was enthusiastic about attending the Countryside meeting you held but when I aksed if there was a chance of us changing your position on HB2257 I got a 3 paragraphs non-answer. You want to tell us "the way things are" but will not listen to the grass roots.

 

You ask for our support but will not let us in on the secret squirrel stuff and expect us to trust you.

Maybe some do.

Mr. Vandermyde, the thing that makes you so effective in Springfield. your ability to speak the same language as politicians, makes you sound evasive when speaking to grass roots activists.

 

I'm gonna crawl back in my lurkers mode now.

Have a safe and happy Indepenance day Sir.

 

I was simply pointing out my take on the questions and how overly simplistic questions tend to not give al the answers and you can read different things into them.

 

based upon conversations I have had today with people, some on this forum, I don't plan on negotiating RTC on a blog or BB. I'll give direct answers to direct questions, just not on an open forum.Ask any of the people, ABOLT specifically, about direct answers. It was my answer to him that started the whole 2257 debate.

 

As for the sherriffs assn, they took a general stand of support, they supported the bill they and I worked out. They were not all that impressed with 2257 and would have opposed it but to send a single message just signed in in support on the principal. Don't fool yourself as to where the LE guys were.

 

i'll listen tot he grassroots any day. I'm not sure that 8 constitutes "grassroots". My last conversation with NRA was that they are nuetral on 2257 and that is where we are today.

 

I'll let a lot of guys in onthe SS stuff you talk about. That was the first meeting I had with local Illinois carry people. I'd met the downsate guys earlier in the week. If you don't believe me about frank disscusions ask Abolt.

 

I would also suggest if you are a ISRA member, attend a BOD meeting when I give an update, It only takes about an hour of their time. But like I said, I'll find a place for us to have another get together and hash out things.

[abolt243]

I had a legnthy conversation with Todd today on several gun related subjects. I will say, Todd will give you forthright answers to your questions. He will listen to your side and will give you his. In the end, you may not like his position, but you will damned well know what it is. I may not always like the positions taken by the NRA, ISRA, Todd, or any of the other groups. There's even some things done by Illinois Carry that I don't agree 100% with. But until I find one that is exactly what I want, I'll support all of them to the extent that I can. I'm not in the habit of giving out others' phone numbers and contact info, but I imagine if you drop a PM to Todd here on the board with your questions, he'll make arrangements to get you your answers.

 

Abolt

[ryr8828]

Ty, maybe you could give me some evidence of Brady being a dullard in order to change my mind. If you don't it's just some more dirty politics.

It's not TVandermyde's words, rather that of Thomas Roeser.

Todd did not say that he agreed with him.

 

Todd did not include a link, to quell confusion, I will.

 

Chicago Daily Observer

 

I'd like to apologize. I read the post and missed the sentence that would have shown me that it was a magazine article. I thought they were his own thoughts.

 

This was my fault for not reading thoroughly enough.

[ryr8828]

I guess that Dillard's doing an announcement fly around on July 9, I just received an invitation to be at Williamson County airport at 2:30 for the announcement of his candidacy for governor.

[Tvandermyde]

ryr --

 

No problem I didn't think to include a link

[Lou]

Todd,

 

I find Roeser's take on Sen. Dillard pretty interesting.

 

In you experience dealing with Dillard, would you agree with Roeser?

[abolt243]

Todd,

 

I find Roeser's take on Sen. Dillard pretty interesting.

 

In you experience dealing with Dillard, would you agree with Roeser?

 

Lou,

 

Don't I remember you speaking highly of Dillard before?? He's your guy, any interaction with him?? We've got him rated a #2 yellow on our chart, but I'd bump him to "good to go Green" on your say-so. Even if he's only lukewarm on 2A stuff, he'd be much more desirable compared to L. Madigan or Mark Kirk!! And sounds to be electable!

 

Tim

[Lou]

Tim,

 

I do think highly of Dillard but as a constituent often times we're told what they think we want to hear. I'd say Todd has had more substantive dealings with him on a different level and was looking for his take. Frankly, I was pleasantly surprised how well Roeser spoke of him.

 

I put more faith in actual votes and for the most part he has been pretty much what I'd like to see as my senator. I can remember only one anti-gun vote he cast a few years back for a magazine ban {I believe it was SB1007} but the bill died in the House.

 

There was the Obama ad fiasco too.

We had a long exchange about that one.