C0untZer0 Posted May 6, 2013 at 12:47 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 12:47 PM http://www.suntimes....ce-workers.html Looks like a move to appease the union. I cannot believe the corruption in Chicago, it just permeates every aspect of Chicago and the public gets screwed. The CTA is so unsafe, but they're going to get rid of security personnel and to create more union jobs. Ugh... .
BobPistol Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:02 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:02 PM Oh no, the CTA has this huge budget deficit...time to raise the fares again! (this time instead of every 2-years, this is now an annual event)
C0untZer0 Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:26 PM Author Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:26 PM I love it when liberal agendas collide. On the one hand they have "public" transportation, without it cities would be like LA - a bunch of highways packed with individuals driving their own vehicles and inefficiently heating up the planet with green house gasses - public transportation which is a function which probably wouldn't happen without government sponsorship. On the other hand, the liberal's are so cozy with unions that the public transportation systems become an expensive (and unsafe) mess that fewer and fewer people will utilize. It becomes a transportation subsidy for people too poor to afford their own vehicle. So all the half-empty buses and trains don't help reduce green house gasses one bit.
Molly B. Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:33 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:33 PM Reducing the security on CTA really increases the need for the right to carry. It will be even harder for them to argue against carry on public transportation .
C0untZer0 Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:45 PM Author Posted May 6, 2013 at 01:45 PM They're lying to the public about decreasing "security" "CTA officials say the move will make stations safer by putting security responsibilities in the hands of workers trained especially to do the CTA work." Bob Kelly - Union President is saying security will be heightened. .
Livewire18 Posted May 6, 2013 at 02:11 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 02:11 PM Just think, when a shall issue concealed carry law passes the CTA will be VERY safe because the thugs will finally be out gunned!
vezpa Posted May 6, 2013 at 03:40 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 03:40 PM Reducing the security on CTA really increases the need for the right to carry. It will be even harder for them to argue against carry on public transportation . When opportunity knocks, use it against them Molly............................. .
BobPistol Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:07 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:07 PM Cronies don't protect non-cronies. A perfect argument to carry on the CTA.
Danielm60660 Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:19 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:19 PM There was never any security on the CTA. All of that was smoke and mirrors. This will probably be a break even deal from a safety aspect.
Indigo Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:27 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:27 PM And just how many of those CTA customer service employees that they move to "security" positions will be 5'2" tall females who weigh 250 pounds with asthma? I don't mean to be sexist, but if you look at the typical CTA customer service person, that's the profile. Many of the Securitas personnel fit that profile too, though..........
BackForward Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:32 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:32 PM Their argument is instead of having private security guards as well as the customer service people, they are getting rid of the guards and hiring new people that will be dual security and costumer service to save taxpayers $$. If that's the actual agenda, it might not be a bad idea, as all those current costumer service people do now is just sit on their fat ***** watching tv in the booth and ignoring people when you try to ask them a question.
richp Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:52 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 04:52 PM Hi, Oh yeah, those convereted ticket-takers will be every bit as qualified and prepared to deal with crime on the platforms. I'm sure the gangbangers are shaking in their boots this very moment at the thought. Once again the politicians show how little regard they have for the citizenry. FWIW. Rich Phillips
C0untZer0 Posted May 6, 2013 at 05:06 PM Author Posted May 6, 2013 at 05:06 PM Next time Deb Mell's amendment comes up I hope someone grills her on it: "Are you aware that the CTA got rid of over 450 trained security personnel and replaced them with CTA employees who have no security experience and have only done administrative tasks?" "Are you aware that security guards that were working the CTA stations and lines are licensed through the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation and required to take 20 hours of security training?, and an additional 16 hours of CTA-specific training?" Are you aware that the CTA exempted the replacement 'security' guards from the 20 hours of regulatory training mandated by Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation?" Are you aware that security guards undergo background checks and the CTA replacements would not undergo those same background checks?" "Isn't it a little hypocritical to reduce security on an already un-safe public transportation system in Chicago, putting Chicago citizens at risk, and then on top of that, denying them the basic human right of self-preservation?"
GAS3987 Posted May 6, 2013 at 05:22 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 05:22 PM I caught some of that on the TV this morning but was only half watching the news. So they are removing nearly non existent security. Good. Makes me more excited to come to the city and use public transit. Not.
tom28 Posted May 6, 2013 at 09:24 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 09:24 PM So the CTA is removing security guards and hiring ex cons what could possibly go wrong.....
VVelox Posted May 6, 2013 at 11:28 PM Posted May 6, 2013 at 11:28 PM I keep hearing it commented on here that this will reduce security. This is completely laughable as the Securitas is completely useless. Securitas should be fired and replaced with no one.
Indigo Posted May 7, 2013 at 01:22 AM Posted May 7, 2013 at 01:22 AM Securitas provided guards for the Chicago Public Library for years. Some of their personnel were.......adequate.
Chicago Guy 77 Posted May 7, 2013 at 02:57 AM Posted May 7, 2013 at 02:57 AM I know people who work for Securitas, I heard they are keeping the K-9 unit but getting rid of the others works. The people I know that work for them are regular unarmed guards, CTA is letting go all unarmed Securitas personal. From what I know of.
Burtonrider10022 Posted May 7, 2013 at 06:02 AM Posted May 7, 2013 at 06:02 AM Unarmed guards are useless. I used to work in [lower] management at a regional security company and I can tell you very accurately that the thugs in the City barely listen to ARMED guards. Our unarmed staff was consistently ignored by even mothers/women/teens in the City. The gang bangers know damn well that the unarmed guard isn't going to interfere with an armed robbery.
C0untZer0 Posted May 7, 2013 at 01:31 PM Author Posted May 7, 2013 at 01:31 PM Security guards and police for that matter are part of the lie that Chicago politicians foist off on the public. The politicians want people to believe that their safety is dependent on government and the alternative where ordinary citizens just take care of their own safety, results in a VERY UNSAFE society for everyone. The security guard are props. A man was beat to death on the green line, a man stabbed in the chest on the red line, a woman raped at an Edgewater bus stop - I could research it and make a long list of tragedies. The police did not prevent these things from happening, CTA security did not prevent these things from happening. But Chicago government keeps pushing the lie that they keep Chicago citizens safe. Is security lousy under the current system? Yes. But the argument that since it is so so bad already it can't get any worse misses the point. When this measure comes up for debate again, I hope that our pro-rights politicians point out that Chicago puts people at risk every day by running a public transportation system that has been proven to have inadequate security, a system which effectively disarms law abiding citizens but has historically been proven to do nothing to disarm criminals. And rather than take this issue seriously, the Chicago politicians acquiesced to a union money grab of security funding.
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