Does Securities and Exchange Commission v. Jarkesy give us a 2A windfall?

[Tvandermyde]

today the Court heard arguments in Securities and Exchange Commission v. Jarkesy comments reported by CNN have me thinking another non-2A case is gonna reap benefits If you like this content please copy and past the link to your social media. If you want to support the litigation work I am involved in you can donate to Second Amendment Defense and Education Coalition (SADEC): https://www.sadec.org/donate

 

 

 

[davel501]

It sure would be something if they ruled that only courts can be courts. It would hit everything, even those red light tickets. 

 

Administrative courts have always struck me as odd. 

[Tango7]

On 11/29/2023 at 10:42 PM, davel501 said:

It sure would be something if they ruled that only courts can be courts. It would hit everything, even those red light tickets. 

 

Administrative courts have always struck me as odd. 

I had to face a "charge" in a local version of those once. The attorney DBA "judge" was completely astounded when I pled nolo contendere. 

 

[Tvandermyde]

 

[mab22]

On 11/29/2023 at 10:42 PM, davel501 said:

It sure would be something if they ruled that only courts can be courts. It would hit everything, even those red light tickets. 

 

Administrative courts have always struck me as odd. 

 

One of the key phrases he mentions is "Civil matter" vs "Criminal matter", as it is now a "Civil matter" means you may as well go to some third world country like Afghanistan and ask for your case to be heard there as you have about an equal chance, meaning all your rights appear to go out the window.

"Criminal matters", you would want to keep in the US as at least have some rights.

 

The red light and speed camera laws are really an abomination and abuse of the administrative system. The so called administrative judges should be forced to recuse as they are HIRED, not elected by the body that is trying to enforce the law. They are not even appointed, or supervised by this thing called "the courts".

BUT if we did get a positive ruling you can bet your behind that they will treat it like Heller, NYSRPA, Centano.,etc.

 

I bet the IRS would not like this either!

 

[starwatcher]

If SCOTUS rules broadly and lower courts and states respect that ruling (hahah) how much you want to bet those red flag, order of protection cases will be handled openly like other court cases instead of like divorce/family/juvie court cases.

 

Imagine making that decision, do you want to fight that red flag and have something searchable against your name or just take it discretely.

 

That could really torpedo someone's job, housing, and prospective relationships searches.

[mab22]

On 12/1/2023 at 9:13 AM, starwatcher said:

If SCOTUS rules broadly and lower courts and states respect that ruling (hahah) how much you want to bet those red flag, order of protection cases will be handled openly like other court cases instead of like divorce/family/juvie court cases.

 

Imagine making that decision, do you want to fight that red flag and have something searchable against your name or just take it discretely.

 

That could really torpedo someone's job, housing, and prospective relationships searches.

 

They would have to be charged and convicted of something for that to occur wouldn't they?

 

Not just that teacher Buttsore that didn't like that you took your kid to the gun range, and now you have a clear and present danger "check mark" on your "file" and you didn't even get to go to court. But the local news now has you in the paper because the popo showed up at your house in full SWAT mode demanding you hand over your FOID card and ANY firearms you own?

Then you can consider going to court?

 

There are a few threads in the forums regarding the CPD mess and violations.

Imagine being drunk and saying something stupid to an officer 5 years ago, you were not charged, arrested, booked, convicted, not even a ticket or a court date, and you get denied for FOID as a CPD. Now you need to hire a lawyer to even find out what was filed against you or what you did/said.