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#1 mauserme

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:12 PM

Illinois Carry is pleased to present the 2012 General Election Survey Update.

This update, which follows the same format and methodology as the 2012 Primary Election Survey, is still a work in progress and, as with the prior survey, is intended to provide information to interested voters rather than as an endorsement of any particular candidate.

Survey results that had been included as part of the Primary Survey are included here generally without change. This new effort reduces the number of entries by eliminating candidates that did not progress past the primary election, but also includes several write-in candidates, candidates that were formerly associated with a party but are now running as an independent, and candidates appointed to fill vacancies. In some cases these candidates will be new to the list.

New survey responses are now included for:

House

Rita Mayfield (D60)
Jack Burleson (R60)
Jeff Thirtyacre (D64)
Donald Jensen (R76)
Pat Fee (R84)
Jennifer Groves-Allison (D91)
Ryan Stookey (R114)


Senate

Tom Cullerton (D23)
Jim O’Donnell (R28)
Don Castella (R30)
Steve Stadelman (D34)
Gary Forby (D59)


Notes about a few of the candidates are in order:

> Rita Mayfield (H60) is “working on this issue” and will vote her district. She indicates that “undecided” is not the best answer to describe her position but I have included it as such for lack of a more defined answer. She was a previous "No" vote on HB148.

> Gregg Bedell (H15) answered neither the initial nor updated survey. In the initial survey, however, I included a link to an old campaign site indicating that he was very much opposed to Right to Carry. In fairness to the candidate I draw equal attention to his new website which states that he will support concealed carry, leaving to the voters in his district the job of discerning his intentions.

> Senator Noland (S22) expressed qualified support for Right to Carry with mention made of a ballistic registry. I continue to indicate this as a "technical" yes though, in practice, it may prove to be a no.


Notes and Abbeviations

Status indicates if the candidate is new (as previously defined) or incumbent in the strictest sense (ie the same person running for the same office in the same district). In cases where the candidate is incumbent in a district/office that differs from that being sought, the current office is indicated in the form H23 to indicate 23rd House District, etc. New to this Column is the /Ret indicator to indicate a previously filed candidate who has since left office. An appointment to that office, when known, will immediately follow.

District indicates the district in which the candidate is campaigning which may differ from their current district.

Web Sites are included in the data and are clickable. Phone numbers and email addresses have also been recorded but are not displayed as some include personal contact information.

2008 NRA indicates the grade assigned by the NRA based on their 2008 survey. Their current survey is underway and Todd promises to share the result when available.

Support RTC? - RTC means Right to Carry, of course, and this column indicates the candidate's answer to the survey question merged with the actual vote if the candidate was a House member when the HB148 vote was taken. This merging of data occurs in both House and Senate spread sheets as some representatives are now running for Senate. In addition to obvious entries in this column, NA is used to indicate that contact was successful but the answer given did not answer the question, and XXXX indicates that the candidate is no longer active.

Lines in bold show those candidates who are Illinois Carry members.


As always, accuracy is of paramount importance and all candidates are invited to contact me if they believe a correction is in order.

Those wishing to link to the survey may do so as long as Illinois Carry is attributed as the source of the information.




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EDITED TO ADD:

While Illinois Carry does not endorse any candidate for office, we do value our sister groups' opinions in this matter. This post has been edited to provide a link to the NRA Polical Victory Fund Grades and Endorsements page for the 2012 Elections, as well as the Illinois State Rifle Association 2012 Firearm Owners' Voter Guide. On the NRA site use patience as the data loads on your first click, then click the tabs to view national, state and local races.

NRA Political Victory Fund Grades and Endorsements

ISRA 2012 Firearm Owners' Voter Guide


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Edited by mauserme, 02 November 2012 - 04:06 PM.

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#2 mauserme

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:13 PM

2012 General Election House Candidates


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApKXRqVgygdsdG1iVExJcGxQRWNYNU1KSWVkVV9ZaFE&output=html


Edited by mauserme, 05 August 2012 - 01:16 PM.

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#3 mauserme

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 01:13 PM

2012 General Election Senate Candidates


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0ApKXRqVgygdsdEdyaGlva2NvdjlMMV9NSlkwQW5aZGc&output=html





*Glenn Farkas (S9) expressed general support for may issue Right to Carry, but with a strong emphasis on training and mental health screening. While possibly not representing the exact support we would hope for, his opponent is firmly in opposition.



*Senator Noland (S22) expressed qualified support for Right to Carry with mention made of a ballistic registry. I continue to indicate this as a "technical" yes though, in practice, it may prove to be a no.


*While Mr. Stover (S54) indicated his support for Right to Carry in conversation, he has since made statements on his website that seem potentially inconsistent with our understanding of the right. He also apparently skipped an opportunity to confirm his support for this issue in the Project Vote Smart questionnaire . See discussion beginning with Post #27.


Edited by mauserme, 03 November 2012 - 07:17 AM.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:51 PM

the bad news for me is neither candidate in the 59th house district is for RTC. The republican challenger Mr. Sidney Mathis is at least a B+ by the NRA but he doesn't help RTC get passed unless he changes his stance.

The GOOD news is that on the Senate side in the 30th I have a clear choice to support Don Castella. the bad news is that the 30th is one of those Polygonal districts crafted to basically insure a Democratic and in this case anti gun candidate wins.

http://www.elections...11SenDist30.pdf

Still, I will be out there voting and doing everything I can to see some real change in this state. I encourage all of you reading this, even those with districts like mine where victory for an RTC candidate looks slim to get out there and vote.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:31 PM

Just an FYI - Received a flyer from Marcus Evans...the replacement for Colvin in House 33.......says he supports HB5831 - Gun registration....

#6 mauserme

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:11 PM

I'd like to note a correction for the House R-58th seat. Lauren Turelli stepped down in June and Republican chieftains then selected her campaign manager, Mark Shaw, to run. Turelli's opponent in the primary, Mark Neerhoff, lost by just a few hundred votes (and won Highland Park) but was not even asked if he wished to be considered as Turelli's replacement. Mark Shaw's position is unknown to me.

Here's the backstory on the Republican insider move:
http://illinoisrevie...ers-choice.html


Thanks. When I started this project I thought the primary would be the hard part. I never anticipated all the shifting around before the general election.

The database has been corrected and I'll try to track down contact information for Mr. Shaw.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 08:19 AM

The Senate data has been updated to reflect support for Right to Carry from Sandy Johnson (S43).
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:22 AM

I really appreciate your efforts with the list, mauserme!
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#9 mauserme

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:46 AM

Well you know, its exciting for me to be able to add another candidate's support to the database as I just did with Andy Manar in the 48th Senate District.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

The Senate data is updated again to show Pat Sullivan's support in the 46th District.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:49 PM

Tom Cross and Linda Holmes for me (both have "A" ratings)....I've written both on multiple occasions to thank them for their work, ask for their continued support and to offer my continued support for them as well.

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#12 mauserme

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 08:41 AM

I added a column to each database today reflecting the grades assigned by the NRA in the 2012 Primary Election. A "Q" after the letter indicates that the grade was assigned solely based on the candidates response to their questionnaire.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:56 PM

Mauserme, the two Democrats running in our House & Senate districts have announced endorsements by the Brady PAC.
House D-58 Scott Drury
Senate D-29 Julie Morrison

Front and center on Morrison's site is a statement opposing RTC, and her Brady PAC endorsement:
http://juliemorrison...tatesenate.com/

A newspaper quote from Morrison saying she opposes concealed carry (linked to her website):
http://deerfield.sun...ndorsement.html


*** Edited to include links from the candidates themselves.

Edited by RECarry, 16 August 2012 - 02:56 PM.

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#14 mauserme

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:25 AM

As useful as I think this information is, I haven't included any third party assessments of the candidates in our survey. There's too much room for misinterpretation of a candidate's position.

Looking at the survey it's obvious that NRA grades are included, but I've not included their endorsements. Every indication of support for. or opposition to, Right to Carry in our survey comes from the direct action of the candidate - either an answer to the survey by the candidate or authorized representative (eg a campaign manager in just a few cases), the candidates HB0148 vote when appropriate, or in a couple cases their clearly stated intention to work against Right to Carry on their web site. Even in cases where a candidate implies Second Amendment support on their website, I have not included this in the survey unless confirmed by conversation, written or oral, with the campaign.

I think its best to leave the Brady endorsements and similar information to posts within this thread, and keep the actual survey as purely objective as I can.


And yes, I find the information on Mr. Shaw's web site very interesting as well. I hope to be able to include a survey response at some point.



Edited to clarify that Ms. Morrison has been included as a "No" in the Senate date base since 1/23/2012 based on the unequivocal opposition stated on her web site. Mr. Drury's addition to the House data base remains pending.

Edited by mauserme, 22 August 2012 - 10:47 AM.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:27 AM

Well I'll be a monkeys uncle. I've crossed paths with Mr. Shaw's firm. I'll give him a call.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 01:01 PM

The "Status" column nows includes an /Exp indicator to reflect today's expulsion of a House member.

Edited by mauserme, 17 August 2012 - 01:02 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:43 AM

Though it appears Derrick Smith will remain on the ballot in the 10th House District, the 10th District Unity Party was created to slate Lance Tyson as his opponent.

Mr. Tyson's name and web site have been added to the data base.
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Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:31 PM

Mauserme, With the outstanding job you do with all things political were RTC is concerned " THANK YOU !!! " When Springfield is in session ,I know you will always have the dope we need to stay on top of our goal. again thank you .
May I suggest that after the election , some one with more talent than me could make a map of the state with the districts laid out and color coded for pro or anti RTC elected officials and list their names. I think it would be eye opening for us to see exactly where our supporters and our foes have drawn the lines. And a few surprises where the lines fall may offer the chance to change some people's minds around the edges of a district
Again, Thank You

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:00 AM

You know, if you volunteer for that project people will start posting wonderful things about you too :rolleyes:

I hear you're a very talented person...
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 06:09 PM

The Senate data now includes Jennifer Bertino-Tarrant's support for Right to Carry in the 49th District.

Thanks to jfd287 for his help with this.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:10 PM

Candidate Danny Stover IL Senate District 54

Renew and conclude the debate on reasonable and limited “conceal and carry” in Illinois for those who qualify. Individuals at high security risk should have that option. Give Chicago an opt-out if they refuse to participate. Illinois is the only state in the nation without any form of “conceal and carry”. Some states simply issue permits or licenses. There are some who should not be allowed, there are many who would benefit the state and their own personal security. There should be required training and other qualifications. Correctional officers, retired police, persons at demonstrated security risk, and others should be considered in this debate. Issues that need to be addressed include selection of the issuing agent or authority, the “shall issue” versus “may issue” debate (I favor shall issue), reciprocity, restricted areas (such as government property, schools, sporting events, bars, hospitals, churches, mass transit/public transportation, and businesses or zones that want to opt out.) All of these issues and more must be debated and addressed when crafting a new law.


Am I the only one confused by the mixed message here? I think we should consider an added note on this candidate. His stance would still leave Mary Shepard a defenseless victim.

And this was listed on his page at votesmart.org:


Indicate which principles you support (if any) regarding guns.
X a) Reauthorize the ban on the sale or transfer of semi-automatic guns, except those used for hunting.
X Maintain and strengthen the current level of enforcement of existing federal restrictions on the purchase and possession of guns.

Edited by Molly B., 20 September 2012 - 08:41 AM.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:39 AM

I spoke to Mr Stover on 12/20/2011. He did mention qualification at the time (which seemed in line with HB148), but his position may have "evolved" a bit since then.

Let me see if I can get clarification from him.



Edited to note that Project Vote Smart does not show a check next the question:

e) Allow citizens to carry concealed guns.

Edited by mauserme, 20 September 2012 - 09:41 AM.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:25 AM

Contact has been sent to Mr. Stover. I'll update when I hear back from him.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

Since Mr. Stover has not responded to my request for clarification, I have added a footnote to the Senate candidate list. It reads:

"While Mr. Stover (S54) indicated his support for Right to Carry in conversation, he has since made statements on his website that seem potentially inconsistent with our understanding of the right. He also apparently skipped an opportunity to confirm his support for this issue in the Project Vote Smart questionnaire . See discussion beginning with Post #27.:

This should not be taken as the final word. If Mr. Stover wishes to provided additional details I have provided him my email address and mobile telephone number with the assurance that our desire is accuracy, not assumtion..



I am posting the full text of the statement on his web site so, if changed, comparison will be possible.

Conceal and Carry

Renew and conclude the debate on reasonable and limited “conceal and carry” in Illinois for those who qualify. Individuals at high security risk should have that option. Give Chicago an opt-out if they refuse to participate. Illinois is the only state in the nation without any form of “conceal and carry”. Some states simply issue permits or licenses. There are some who should not be allowed, there are many who would benefit the state and their own personal security. There should be required training and other qualifications. Correctional officers, retired police, persons at demonstrated security risk, and others should be considered in this debate. Issues that need to be addressed include selection of the issuing agent or authority, the “shall issue” versus “may issue” debate (I favor shall issue), reciprocity, restricted areas (such as government property, schools, sporting events, bars, hospitals, churches, mass transit/public transportation, and businesses or zones that want to opt out.) All of these issues and more must be debated and addressed when crafting a new law.


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Posted 02 November 2012 - 10:49 AM

With the reappearance of our election survey today, I am happy to add the following candidates as recent additions to the Illinois House and Senate races.

While I'm unable to specifically state sufficient reason to footnote any of these candidates' answers other than Glenn Farkas in the 9th Senate District (see Post #3), some of these later candidates seemed to have a "heightened awareness" of issues, such as training requirements and mental health screening, that did not arise in my contacts with the earlier candidates. I have included notes below where appropriate.

House

Paul Minervino (H14)

Eric Joseph Lieberman (H18) - Support

Ricardo Fernandez (H35) - Support

Bob Shelstrom (H36) - Support

Dee Beaubien (H52) - Support with emphasis on training

Curt Renz - (H53)

Richard Rudd - (H54)

Thomas Bokin Jr - (H90)

Michael Langendorf (H104)

Daniel P. Polites (H108) - Support

Dale E. Dorch (H117) - Support

Christopher McCann (H117) - Support



Senate

Glenn Farkas (S9) - Supports may issue with emphasis on training & mental health screening

Edgar Montalvo (S19) - Support

Cary Collins (S22) - Support

David R. Page (S27) - Undecided with an emphasis on "safeguards" for any bill he might support (difficult to judge as I spoke to the campaign manager rather than the candidate)

Joseph C. "Tuck" Marshall (S40) - Support

Michael J. Bigler (S58)


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Edited by mauserme, 02 November 2012 - 06:07 PM.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 09:00 AM

I just corrected a typo in Christopher McCann's (H117) web site address.

If you've been trying to find him, please click the link now provided in the database above.

Appologies to the candidate...



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Edited by mauserme, 03 November 2012 - 09:07 AM.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:03 PM

Is it possible to see a list I can understand?

#28 mauserme

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

What can I help you with?

If you post (or PM me) your districts I'll be happy to list just your candidates.
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Link to ILGA House Audio/Video..........Link to ILGA Senate Audio/Video ..........Link to Livestream Blueroom Events Page

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis

#29 C0untZer0

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:37 PM

I'm impressed that you can embed a spreadsheet with a scrollbar right into a post.

That's pretty cool
‘Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive...those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.‘
- C. S. Lewis

#30 mauserme

    Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 06:53 PM

You should thank pyre400 for that. He's the man when it comes to cool.
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Link to ILGA House Audio/Video..........Link to ILGA Senate Audio/Video ..........Link to Livestream Blueroom Events Page

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Lewis