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Posterboy for Gov Quinn's Early Release Program: Timothy Herring Jr.

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From Second City Cop:

 

Arrest Made

Fecalhead charged. Press conference forthcoming. Updates as we have them.

 

* A man on parole for armed robbery has been charged with the fatal shootings of Chicago Police Officer Michael Flisk and former Chicago Housing Authority officer Stephen Peters in a Southeast Side alley last week.

 

Timothy Herring Jr., 19, of the 8100 block of South Manistee Avenue, was charged with first-degree murder. Prosecutors said Herring is eligible for the death penalty but they have not decided whether to seek it.

 

Herring is also charged with attempted murder and aggravated battery with a firearm stemming from an incident in June. No details were available on that case.

 

The suspect lives across the alley from where Peters parked his prized Ford Mustang GT inside his mother's garage in the 8100 block of South Burnham Avenue, sources told the Tribune.

 

 

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SEVEN WEEKS in prison for armed robbery.

 

Released after SEVEN WEEKS with a pending case for attempted murder and agg batt with a firearm?!

 

What the FOXTROT is wrong with this state's governor?

lieut89 Member

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Pathetic! What was this misunderstood youths original sentence I wonder? Even with day for a day of good behavior, this thugs sentence would have only been 3 1/2 months. I highly doubt that was the case. And the people of Chicago were duped by the Quinn attack ads against Brady about RTC and so called assault weapons being wrong and wreckless?

 

Quinn won't have to worry though, this will get swept under the rug and be forgotten before long. I mean, you would think that this would be news, but the local outlets have been mum for the most part.

Buzzard Member

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SEVEN WEEKS in prison for armed robbery.

 

Released after SEVEN WEEKS with a pending case for attempted murder and agg batt with a firearm?!

 

What the FOXTROT is wrong with this state's governor?

 

ANSWER: Liberal Democrat.

Buzzard Member

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This is a direct result of the sale of the Thomson prison. These appallingly short sentences and early paroles are intended to ease prison overcrowding and facilitate the sale. I was one of the most vocal opponents to the sale of Thomson prison, which was an election gift to Barack Obama from Dick Durbin and Pat Quinn to enable him to close Gitmo. This stuff isn't hard to figure out people.
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Here it's like Paul Harvey's, the "rest of the story". I thought I read and hear enough about Chitown but now after joining this forum, I'm getting exactly that, the rest of the story, and just when I think I've heard enough too. I'm sure that's because we don't get any Chitown news stations down here but only the Chitown suburb news out of East STL.
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They just reported on WLS radio that "Herring was released from prison after serving half of a six year sentence." This must be corrected. One of us have to get through to the station and make sure they correct that statement!
RandyP Member

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And we shouldn't have simple mandatory beheadings because?........................

 

This waste of good oxygen deserves a lifetime of free food, medical care and clothes? If you are doing these deeds as a teen, what expectations for the future?

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They just reported on WLS radio that "Herring was released from prison after serving half of a six year sentence." This must be corrected. One of us have to get through to the station and make sure they correct that statement!

 

Half my butt.

 

ADMISSION / RELEASE / DISCHARGE INFO

Admission Date: 07/22/2010

Parole Date: 09/14/2010

Projected Discharge Date: TO BE DETERMINED

Buzzard Member

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They just reported on WLS radio that "Herring was released from prison after serving half of a six year sentence." This must be corrected. One of us have to get through to the station and make sure they correct that statement!

 

Half my butt.

 

ADMISSION / RELEASE / DISCHARGE INFO

Admission Date: 07/22/2010

Parole Date: 09/14/2010

Projected Discharge Date: TO BE DETERMINED

 

Yup. I read it. This needs to be outed. And in a BIG WAY.

 

It's blood on Quinn's hands.

richp Member

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Hi,

 

Might want to slow down just a tad. Other accounts show him in custody briefly in 2010 -- the time period referenced in these last posts. But it appears this was well after his parole from the longer sentence, after serving about three years. (Still not enough of a sentence -- or time in prison -- for what he did, of course.)

 

Plenty to criticize and ask about here. How did he accumulate the good time required to chop that sentence in half, for starters. And then there is the matter of why his parole wasn't revoked when he was remanded to custody in mid 2010? And of what earthly benefit was this electronic monitoring gizmo that he was wearing?

 

This situation clearly highlights the dysfunctionality of the system. But before anyone assails the media, it would be advisable to have the complete time sequence firmly established.

 

FWIW.

 

Rich Phillips

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Hi,

 

Might want to slow down just a tad. Other accounts show him in custody briefly in 2010 -- the time period referenced in these last posts. But it appears this was well after his parole from the longer sentence, after serving about three years. (Still not enough of a sentence -- or time in prison -- for what he did, of course.)

 

Plenty to criticize and ask about here. How did he accumulate the good time required to chop that sentence in half, for starters. And then there is the matter of why his parole wasn't revoked when he was remanded to custody in mid 2010? And of what earthly benefit was this electronic monitoring gizmo that he was wearing?

 

This situation clearly highlights the dysfunctionality of the system. But before anyone assails the media, it would be advisable to have the complete time sequence firmly established.

 

FWIW.

 

Rich Phillips

It's been my understanding that "meritous good time" awards one day off the sentence for every "good" day served. It's has been that way for a long time. That is, until Gov.Quinn instituted the "MGT PUSH" program which greatly accelerated the awarding of good time to the point where weeks instead of years were being served.

 

As I said above, this was necessary to ease the strain on Illinois' corrections system due to insufficient space to house the prisoner population. This was in spite of the fact that the brand new Thomson prison was sitting empty in northwest Illinois due to lack of funding.

 

Understand, I'm not critisizing the footsoldiers in the Dept. of Corrections. The orders come down from the top and they must follow them. But I guess I must need more practice at reading the IDOC prisoner information.

Hatchet Member

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what i keep seeing...

 

Timothy Herring, Jr. was released on parole in April after a 2007 conviction for armed robbery. Herring was also sent to jail in July after testing positive for marijuana.

 

Herring was convicted of armed robbery in 2008 and sentenced to six years in prison. He had been on parole since September, according to Illinois Department of Corrections records.
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Hi Buzzard,

 

I guess I know the answers to my own questions. I'm writing out of a sense of frustration that the complete fabric of our criminal justice system is so poorly crafted and implemented.

 

You are spot on in mentioning Thomson in this context. We built this expensive facility without doing the requisite groundwork with the unions about what would happen to displaced employees. That supposedly was the original problem. Now, when crowding is such an issue and those beds could be used to good effect, state leaders don't have the intestinal fortitude to cut the budget in less critical areas and appropriate funds to open Thomson. And of course now they have the temptation to sell it to the Feds to take up some temporary slack in the budget -- while public safety suffers.

 

I know the argument about the beds at Thomson being high security, and that the system doesn't really need them. But there are lots of other options. Most practically, some of the beds in the older high security institutions could be downgraded operationally when their population was moved out. That's what the Federal system did to Marion and Leavenworth when they activated places like the ADX in Colorado.

 

If this situation doesn't generate a full discussion of the good time policies of the DOC, I don't know what will. (And the death penalty as well.) Not to mention the policies and thresholds for returning inmates to full custody for violating the conditions of their release. Of course, if a harder line were to be taken, detractors would assert that the courts and prisons don't have the capacity to handle the additional convicted/returned offenders. To accept that is to say that public safety is unacceptably low on the priority list of our elected representatives, when in fact it should be at the very top.

 

I mentioned the fabric of the system because it's more than just the penal side. The prosecutorial and probation/parole aspects of our system are equally dysfunctional. You don't have to look any farther than the short sentence he originally received. Or the fact that this guy wasn't violated back to full prison custody when he gave up a dirty urine. Or -- quite frankly -- the fact that the fellow he shot in June who refused to cooperate with the police was so fearful of retaliation (no legal way to defend himself, of course) that the opportunity was missed to get this offender off the streets before he cold-bloodedly executed two good men. (And don't get me started on the fact that Mayor Daley, Jesse Jackson and others have not yet spoken out about this tragedy, when they are so quick to jump on the case of an allegation of police misconduct or some other lesser supposed malfeasance when those involved are in political favor.)

 

Gotta stop. Color me frustrated and outraged.

 

Rich Phillips

RandyP Member

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Call me a dumb old fart, but does anyone else recoil slack-jawed at the very notion of a 16 year old 'kid' being in prison serving a 6 year sentence because they are in fact already an armed robber? What the fergoogly is going on in this so-called 'society' that breeds such a level of scum? And now the same useless mope takes human lives so he doesn't get charged with yet more robbery!

 

To sound just like my great-grandparents for a minute -lol- when I went to grammar and high chool you got into trouble for bringing gum.

 

As good old Paul Harvey always chanted "It is NOT one world."

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Thanks Rich for such a thorough summary of our situation here in Illinois. You included a few bits of information that I didn't know, such as the union hang-up with opening the facility, but as you say - that's hardly a reason to have kept it closed all this time.

 

I get so mad whenever the subject comes up. Letting this guy loose with nothing but an ankle monitor is a perfect example of what Gov. Quinn and Dick Durbin think is a viable solution to Illinois' prison overcrowding. They are perfectly willing to release violent criminals from prison and yet deny honest citizens the right to defend themselves. They can't have it both ways.

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"...the John Howard Association, a prison reform group, said excluding gun offenders

from early release programs will further overcrowd Illinois' prisons."

 

Daley, Weis: No early release for gun criminals

 

by Tony Arnold

Nov. 30, 2010

wbez.org

 

Chicago's mayor and top cop are calling for a change to the way some prisoners are released early in Illinois. That comes after a 19-year-old parolee was arrested for killing a Chicago police technician and a housing authority officer.

 

Mayor Richard Daley says anyone serving jail time for committing a gun crime should not qualify for early release programs. "The use of a gun is very serious in a crime and society has to take that much more serious," he said.

 

Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis agrees. "I think if you use a weapon, it should be a mandatory sentence," Weis said. "It's insane that people are getting out early after they've tried to kill someone."

 

Daley and Weis were reacting to the recent arrest of Timothy Herring Jr. He was out on parole after serving half of a six-year prison sentence for armed robbery. Herring was denied bond by a Cook County judge Tuesday

 

Meantime, the head of the John Howard Association, a prison reform group, said excluding gun offenders from early release programs will further overcrowd Illinois' prisons.

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i knew this was coming... i knew they would blame the gun...

 

what about the people stabbed to death like the recent woman and 3 children stabbed to death.. yea they will let that ** go but not if he used a gun... what about people that drown, how come they have banned beaches yet...

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Mayor Richard Daley says anyone serving jail time for committing a gun crime should not qualify for early release programs. "The use of a gun is very serious in a crime and society has to take that much more serious," he said.

 

Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis agrees. "I think if you use a weapon, it should be a mandatory sentence," Weis said. "It's insane that people are getting out early after they've tried to kill someone."

 

 

Daley blaming the gun again. How about this? All violent criminals should not be released from jail? Illinois wouldn't have the level of crime it has if the criminals actually stayed in jail. But they get out quickly to simply commit more crimes.

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Edit: was commenting on the "half of a six year term" - but I did more research and his custody date was 2007. That means he was in jail for 3 years already before parole. The 6 year sentence he received in 2010 was after already serving half of it (assuming the judge included that as time served, which they always do).
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Mayor Richard Daley says anyone serving jail time for committing a gun crime should not qualify for early release programs. "The use of a gun is very serious in a crime and society has to take that much more serious," he said.

 

Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis agrees. "I think if you use a weapon, it should be a mandatory sentence," Weis said. "It's insane that people are getting out early after they've tried to kill someone."

 

 

Daley blaming the gun again. How about this? All violent criminals should not be released from jail? Illinois wouldn't have the level of crime it has if the criminals actually stayed in jail. But they get out quickly to simply commit more crimes.

Well, as long as we let them get away with it, they will continue to deny our right to self-protection. We need to tell these dumb-azz politicians that we are fed up with their denials, and we intend to protect ourselves even if it means breaking the law. How many laws do the politicians break and nothing is ever done?

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