Tvandermyde Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM One of my sources at the capitol has confirmed that HB-182 was signed today. I saw an email of the actions, and we were signed this afternoon. Barring a really cruel joke, we are moving on up. congrats guys & gals. That makes us 2 for 2 this week. time for a cold one and a south of the border seegar. :Drunk emoticon: Thanks for all your help in making this happen.
Bud Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM Hope its true, nothing on his webpage
Sigma Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM Thats great news. Can someone get us some confirmation. If not we have to assume that it hasnt been signed and we need to still call.2 for 2? What was the other?
abolt243 Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM AllllRiiiiight!!! Thanks for your dedication in getting this done from your side. IIRC, there was some long distance negotiation done between you and a legislator or two!! That's what it's going to take to get other changes made and a RTC bill passed. In-house-behind-the-scenes negotiations supported by grass roots pressure on the phones, faxes and e-mails as well as face to face meetings!!!! We've seen how it works and have some success. Now to move on to bigger fish!!! Congratulations and thanks on behalf of gun owners throughout this state to everyone and anyone here who made a call, sent a fax or e-mailed a lawmaker on HB182. If any of you enlisted support from other boards that you're memebers of, pass along the thanks and good news! Tim
abolt243 Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM Thats great news. Can someone get us some confirmation. If not we have to assume that it hasnt been signed and we need to still call.2 for 2? What was the other? HB3714
Tvandermyde Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM Author Posted August 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM I just got a call from the Director of DNR. He wanted to report on two things, one of them being HB-182 was signed into law today. Take it as official. I'm sure it will be on the ILGA web page tommorow after they edit it tonight. Heineken time
moparcardave Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:17 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:17 AM Wow I can actually go where I am invited and feel like I can protect myself in their home as well as mine. Now all we needis the right to walk across the street to the friends house and feel safe as we walk. Thanks to all who took the time to call and write.
Sigma Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:19 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:19 AM Thanks Abolt I didnt even know about that one.
THE KING Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:20 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:20 AM I just got a call from the Director of DNR. He wanted to report on two things, one of them being HB-182 was signed into law today. Take it as official. I'm sure it will be on the ILGA web page tommorow after they edit it tonight. Heineken time SWEET And you have a good taste for a fine brew !! Now that it has passed, all that I can say is "It's about damn time" I know that I will have to re-read HB-182, but Todd can you give us the down and dirty of what is and what is not acceptable situations for carrying a weapon for self defense purposes. Like many others, I would like to know when and where I can carry and under what circumstances !! When does it take affect ? I realize this is not a RTC Bill but it does expand our abilities and I for one would like to know the ins and outs of the legislative intent. And Thank you for your hard work, I personally appreciate it KING
Drylok Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:32 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:32 AM Todd,Do you have an email addy you would share? I have some people that would like to express their thanks to you but aren't with us here! Thank you much Todd and grats to all!
Ol'Coach Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:35 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:35 AM One of my sources at the capitol has confirmed that HB-182 was signed today. I saw an email of the actions, and we were signed this afternoon. Barring a really cruel joke, we are moving on up. congrats guys & gals. That makes us 2 for 2 this week. time for a cold one and a south of the border seegar. :Drunk emoticon: Thanks for all your help in making this happen. Todd... I wanna make sure I say this right... ...I believe that us without you, or you without us, none of what's happened since you joined this site would have happened. Am I makin' sense? Now...on to LTC!!! (Get my drift?)
Lou Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:40 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:40 AM Todd,Do you have an email addy you would share? I have some people that would like to express their thanks to you but aren't with us here! Thank you much Todd and grats to all! He has it listed on his profile.
Chris Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:41 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:41 AM Todd, thanks for the hard work on this bill which really clears up some nasty technicality that I would have hate to see any more people end up in trouble if it wasn't for this bill.
Drylok Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:42 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:42 AM Todd,Do you have an email addy you would share? I have some people that would like to express their thanks to you but aren't with us here! Thank you much Todd and grats to all! He has it listed on his profile. Ah very good sir, thank you!
Sigma Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:45 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:45 AM Im so happy I want to take advantage of this bill right now. So what is the transport procedure with this new bill. My friend lives 2 blocks away. OC at home. Put in case as I walk out the door then carry unloaded in case until I arrive on his property then I can CC?
abolt243 Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:48 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:48 AM I just got a call from the Director of DNR. He wanted to report on two things, one of them being HB-182 was signed into law today. Take it as official. I'm sure it will be on the ILGA web page tommorow after they edit it tonight. Heineken time SWEET And you have a good taste for a fine brew !! Now that it has passed, all that I can say is "It's about damn time" I know that I will have to re-read HB-182, but Todd can you give us the down and dirty of what is and what is not acceptable situations for carrying a weapon for self defense purposes. Like many others, I would like to know when and where I can carry and under what circumstances !! When does it take affect ? I realize this is not a RTC Bill but it does expand our abilities and I for one would like to know the ins and outs of the legislative intent. And Thank you for your hard work, I personally appreciate it KING King, I believe Todd is enjoying his Hieniken and seegar. Here's his latest post #8, concerning your question. We're far from RTC, but you can carry in your dwelling, your land, your fixed place of business and now in another's dwelling/land with his/her permission. Tim
drdoom Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM Great, so this means I can finally carry concealed in my own house and the land it is on (backyard, frontyard?) What about open carry?
Drylok Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:54 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:54 AM Great, so this means I can finally carry concealed in my own house and the land it is on (backyard, frontyard?) What about open carry? I believe you could already do that, this makes it so you can do that on another persons property with his permission.
abolt243 Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:55 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:55 AM Great, so this means I can finally carry concealed in my own house and the land it is on (backyard, frontyard?) What about open carry? You have always been able to carry (open or concealed) in your own home, your land or your fixed place of business. Now you can carry on your parents' land, if you have their permission.
vstar Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:56 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:56 AM Thanks for your efforts Todd...it's nice to see progress and maybe more in the future.
Tvandermyde Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:04 AM Author Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:04 AM Coach -- yes I understand, and it works. Drylock -- tvandermyd@aol.com NO e on the end of my name for email. sigma -- it sounds about right, but it doesn't have to be open. Point of contention. e worked this bill becuase of the problems with handling a firearm at a friends house with ammo close by. Hotel rooms i.e. dwellings where you are staying. Shooting on your friends farm would be a felony. I know the feelings of a lot of people about RTC. We didn't win this one on that. That was our biggest impedement. That is what the otherside argued against. Just like when unloaded enclosed in a case was codified and cleaned up, six seconds to safety came out -- fanny pack carry. Next thing you know we got three states sttorneys doing a press conferance saying they will arrest anyone doing that. Bills introduced that would get you a felony for using a soft case to transport a firearm and a whole lotta work on my end playing defense for a few internet posts and articles by some guys in oakbrook and Champaign county. Point being, what the law may allow, and what should be flaunted are two different things. I just don't want to go to veto session in October with bills introduced to repeal this and or screw it up coming right out the box. Sit back, smile and think about the S**t hitting the fan with the antis tommorow and all the laughs we will get from their handwringing. We've already seen it over Phoenix. Lets just have a nice warm feeling from the fact that they are batting pretty much zero this year. And we have a lot less work to do in six weeks at veto session. Over the next few months I'm sure things will progress as cops and people become aware of the bill and changes to the law. But along with that warm smile, cold steel goes well on my hip tonight. Gonna go visit the neighbor.
pyre400 Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:05 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:05 AM Wow, fantastic news. Thanks, this makes my day. I was expecting quinn to simply sit on this one. I guess he was listening/reading after all!
pyre400 Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:10 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:10 AM Drylock -- tvandermyd at aol dot com NO e on the end of my name for email. But along with that warm smile, cold steel goes well on my hip tonight. Gonna go visit the neighbor. Thanks Todd - enjoy! Not sure if it matters to you but you may wish to alter your post a little - just to slow down the spam.
Thirdpower Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:32 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:32 AM Most excellent. We need more news like this in Illinois.
Ol'Coach Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:44 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:44 AM Coach -- yes I understand, and it works.What's that old Bud commercial..."Love ya, man"!
Tvandermyde Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:45 AM Author Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:45 AM Pyre -- it doesn't matter. I habd out over 2000 biz cards a year with my email on them. I am pretty easy to find. I signed up onthe brady site and they haven't figured it out yet.... Thanks for the concern. But if people want to get a hold of me I try to make it easy. I won't put my cell number here, but I give it out to those that ask. and BTW I think my email is listed on the SOS lobbyist website. Just got back from the neighbors house, he thought it was cool.
ishmo Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:46 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:46 AM Sounds like a pretty good day for our side thanks to all for your hard work, especially you Todd.
Drylok Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:47 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:47 AM For clarification, is this effective immediately? Like 08/25/09 8:47pm?
Tvandermyde Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:55 AM Author Posted August 26, 2009 at 01:55 AM yup pg 24:21 Section 99. Effective date. This Act takes effect upon 22 becoming law.
GarandFan Posted August 26, 2009 at 02:14 AM Posted August 26, 2009 at 02:14 AM I saw an email of the actions, and we were signed this afternoon. Great news! I can't wait to read all about it in tomorrow's Tribune ...
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