Arch1GLK Posted January 14, 2009 at 01:59 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 01:59 PM OK Folks,First its Obama from Land of Lincoln, then its Blago, Burris, etc..But now Bobby Rush (racist) is going to put all of us in my State at the forefront of the gun issue. Its definitely time to be heard!If I have to go door to door to hand out FOID applications, I will do it to put a STOP to this madness.
Arch1GLK Posted January 14, 2009 at 02:00 PM Author Posted January 14, 2009 at 02:00 PM OK Folks,First its Obama from Land of Lincoln, then its Blago, Burris, etc..But now Bobby Rush (racist) is going to put all of us in my State at the forefront of the gun issue. Its definitely time to be heard!If I have to go door to door to hand out FOID applications, I will do it to put a STOP to this madness. Forgot the info for all to see.http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=...mp;pageId=86039
Slappy Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:01 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:01 PM What I love is that all my liberal friends were like "Obama is not going to take away your guns. Congress wont be pushing for that and if they did, it would be years from now anyway" What utter BS. With a Democrat house and senate, this crap is going is going to happen fast and furious and our supporters can't do a thing really. We just don't have the votes to hold it down. Our lobbyists better get to work now! This really sucks.
tech141 Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:16 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:16 PM No way in heck will that trash get passed through the process. Keep an eye on it though. If ANYONE co-sponsors it, they will have committed political suicide. Might be fun to see....
Slappy Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:18 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:18 PM No way in heck will that trash get passed through the process. Keep an eye on it though. If ANYONE co-sponsors it, they will have committed political suicide. Might be fun to see.... You would assume they would be committing suicide but here we are with a democrat house, senate and president...
MARKHOLSTRUM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:30 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:30 PM what was I screaming about back during the heller case???? REGISTRATION...I knew in my gut it was coming and now look at what they are doing to heller and look at what they are trying here. Its just a matter of whether or not the american ppl will bend over and take this.....I imagine they will because we always do. Just remember 1000 to 1 phone calls against the bailout and they did it anyway....democracy in action indeed.
Buzzard Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:40 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:40 PM No way in heck will that trash get passed through the process. Keep an eye on it though. If ANYONE co-sponsors it, they will have committed political suicide. Might be fun to see.... You would assume they would be committing suicide but here we are with a democrat house, senate and president...Thank you Slappy, as I said several time before, it's the 'perfect storm' that's building. And we better be getting in people's faces and warning them of what's coming due to this last election. People said "Don't worry." and "They wouldn't dare." Well - the democrats are drunk on the Obama Kool-aide and guess what they'll be drinking at the inauguration. Already they want to repeal the 22nd amendment?? This is only the start, mark my words.
Arch1GLK Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:46 PM Author Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:46 PM LOOK NOW!All the guy said was " I have a gun". Hey, maybe he was just transporting it to his "Gunsmith". Unfreakin real!!!! Perfect Storm??Where's my house for sale sign at?
Arch1GLK Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:47 PM Author Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:47 PM http://www.nbcchicago.com/traffic_autos/tr...s-Searched.html keep forgetting.
Slappy Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:53 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 03:53 PM Thank you Slappy, as I said several time before, it's the 'perfect storm' that's building. And we better be getting in people's faces and warning them of what's coming due to this last election. People said "Don't worry." and "They wouldn't dare." Well - the democrats are drunk on the Obama Kool-aide and guess what they'll be drinking at the inauguration. Already they want to repeal the 22nd amendment?? This is only the start, mark my words. Yeah, people have to realize that we are currently out of power. We are the minority in government right now. Gun banning will NOT be political suicide for most our opposition.
TTIN Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:18 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:18 PM And the real b!tch will be that no handguns will be grandfathered.You will have to have that stupid license to posses ANY handgun.
Buzzard Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:26 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:26 PM And the real b!tch will be that no handguns will be grandfathered. You will have to have that stupid license to posses ANY handgun.This is what the Obama zombies have handed us. They put Chicago in power. No good can possibly come from it.
Federal Farmer Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:41 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:41 PM Rush proposed this in 2007 as well. It garnered these 16 co-sponsors back then. We need to whip this in the bud. Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 7/12/2007 Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 9/26/2007 Rep Davis, Danny K. [iL-7] - 7/19/2007 Rep Emanuel, Rahm [iL-5] - 7/26/2007 Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 9/5/2007 Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [iL-4] - 7/19/2007 Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 7/26/2007 Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [iL-2] - 7/26/2007 Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 7/26/2007 Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 11/5/2007 Rep Lee, Barbara [CA-9] - 7/12/2007 Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 7/19/2007 Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 7/19/2007 Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 7/26/2007 Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 7/19/2007 Rep Wynn, Albert Russell [MD-4] - 9/5/2007
MARKHOLSTRUM Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:59 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 04:59 PM And the real b!tch will be that no handguns will be grandfathered.You will have to have that stupid license to posses ANY handgun. I dont know about you guys but I'm going to live free or die trying....granted I dont have a family(anymore) to worry about leaving behind.....if these guys want to push it there is a whole swarm of guys like me that wont lay over to these new nazi/commie/tree-hugger green shirts....whatever you want to call them.
lockman Posted January 14, 2009 at 07:19 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 07:19 PM And the real b!tch will be that no handguns will be grandfathered.You will have to have that stupid license to posses ANY handgun. I dont know about you guys but I'm going to live free or die trying....granted I dont have a family(anymore) to worry about leaving behind.....if these guys want to push it there is a whole swarm of guys like me that wont lay over to these new nazi/commie/tree-hugger green shirts....whatever you want to call them. Under such circumstances that this tyranny may arise it would be every mans (womans) duty to aboish it. And I will just leave it at that.
BigJim Posted January 14, 2009 at 09:19 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 09:19 PM I ain't registering or turning in any of my guns or ammo.
Buzzard Posted January 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM One thing for sure, if America's gun owners were ignorant to Illinois' hatred towards firearms, they are certainly aware of it now. And if they voted for Obama, I hope the brainless ******** may now awaken from their catatonic state.
Mac Posted January 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM Well how many times have the ppl been told of such if the current politicians get elecdted? Do they have to keep on being told that these ppl are nuts. What gets me is the fact that they forget to tell the truth on everything yet ppl believe they speak the truth when they say that the gun issue is ok, we don't want your guns. B.S. Bobby Rush is the biggest racist in Illinois. He is the first one to use that word anytime it is in print or the news. Roland Burris was not held up on his appointment because he is black. Roland Burris was held up because his paperwork was not in order. Any, Any, Any time a Representative of this state breathes the word RACIST,, He needs to be removed from office. To me the word RACIST means the sant as ******. But you know as well as I that that word cdan't be used any longer. So as far as I am concerned Bobby Rush is a RACIST ****** that should be sent to Ethiopia. There he can play his racist **** and on body CARES> Mac
Slappy Posted January 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM Rush proposed this in 2007 as well. It garnered these 16 co-sponsors back then. We need to whip this in the bud. Rep Clarke, Yvette D. [NY-11] - 7/12/2007 Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] - 9/26/2007 Rep Davis, Danny K. [iL-7] - 7/19/2007 Rep Emanuel, Rahm [iL-5] - 7/26/2007 Rep Fattah, Chaka [PA-2] - 9/5/2007 Rep Gutierrez, Luis V. [iL-4] - 7/19/2007 Rep Hastings, Alcee L. [FL-23] - 7/26/2007 Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [iL-2] - 7/26/2007 Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] - 7/26/2007 Rep Larson, John B. [CT-1] - 11/5/2007 Rep Lee, Barbara [CA-9] - 7/12/2007 Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] - 7/19/2007 Rep Stark, Fortney Pete [CA-13] - 7/19/2007 Rep Thompson, Bennie G. [MS-2] - 7/26/2007 Rep Towns, Edolphus [NY-10] - 7/19/2007 Rep Wynn, Albert Russell [MD-4] - 9/5/2007 Anyone else notice that 25% of the sponsors are from IL?
BShawn Posted January 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM Posted January 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM Anyone else notice that 25% of the sponsors are from IL? I'm surprised it isn't more!
Slappy Posted January 17, 2009 at 03:31 AM Posted January 17, 2009 at 03:31 AM Well how many times have the ppl been told of such if the current politicians get elecdted? Do they have to keep on being told that these ppl are nuts. What gets me is the fact that they forget to tell the truth on everything yet ppl believe they speak the truth when they say that the gun issue is ok, we don't want your guns. B.S. Bobby Rush is the biggest racist in Illinois. He is the first one to use that word anytime it is in print or the news. Roland Burris was not held up on his appointment because he is black. Roland Burris was held up because his paperwork was not in order. Any, Any, Any time a Representative of this state breathes the word RACIST,, He needs to be removed from office. To me the word RACIST means the sant as ******. But you know as well as I that that word cdan't be used any longer. So as far as I am concerned Bobby Rush is a RACIST ****** that should be sent to Ethiopia. There he can play his racist **** and on body CARES> Mac Bobby Rush is the only person to ever beat obama in a race. What does that tell you about Obama's home district?
BShawn Posted January 18, 2009 at 03:50 AM Posted January 18, 2009 at 03:50 AM And the real b!tch will be that no handguns will be grandfathered.You will have to have that stupid license to posses ANY handgun. I dont know about you guys but I'm going to live free or die trying....granted I dont have a family(anymore) to worry about leaving behind.....if these guys want to push it there is a whole swarm of guys like me that wont lay over to these new nazi/commie/tree-hugger green shirts....whatever you want to call them. And the real b!tch will be that no handguns will be grandfathered.You will have to have that stupid license to posses ANY handgun. I dont know about you guys but I'm going to live free or die trying....granted I dont have a family(anymore) to worry about leaving behind.....if these guys want to push it there is a whole swarm of guys like me that wont lay over to these new nazi/commie/tree-hugger green shirts....whatever you want to call them. Under such circumstances that this tyranny may arise it would be every mans (womans) duty to aboish it. And I will just leave it at that. :Drunk emoticon: I ain't registering or turning in any of my guns or ammo. Amen!
Slappy Posted January 18, 2009 at 05:01 AM Posted January 18, 2009 at 05:01 AM I ain't registering or turning in any of my guns or ammo. I don't think that is something you should advertise in a public forum. We definitely shouldn't condone illegal activity here! Just sayin... :Drunk emoticon:
Hossua Posted January 18, 2009 at 05:46 AM Posted January 18, 2009 at 05:46 AM I ain't registering or turning in any of my guns or ammo. I don't think that is something you should advertise in a public forum. We definitely shouldn't condone illegal activity here! Just sayin... :Drunk emoticon:There is no law that says you have to turn in your legally owned firearms. If this bill does pass (and I don't think it will) it will be an unenforceable law, no one will follow it.This bill not only infringes the second, it also spreads out into the 4th.
BShawn Posted January 18, 2009 at 05:57 AM Posted January 18, 2009 at 05:57 AM I ain't registering or turning in any of my guns or ammo. I don't think that is something you should advertise in a public forum. We definitely shouldn't condone illegal activity here! Just sayin... :Drunk emoticon:There is no law that says you have to turn in your legally owned firearms. If this bill does pass (and I don't think it will) it will be an unenforceable law, no one will follow it.This bill not only infringes the second, it also spreads out into the 4th.I could not have said it better myself!
hotpig27 Posted January 18, 2009 at 06:28 PM Posted January 18, 2009 at 06:28 PM It well be interesting to see what happens. How will it be Political suicide if these critters go with the flow and vote for major anti gun legislation? They have the party wrapped up and the support of many gun owners. I know, what are you talking about hotpig? Obama struck a deal with Americas hunters. He promised to leave their shotguns alone in exchange for their votes. He was upfront with them and said he would pass a permanent AWB and other common sense gun laws. You can go to any gun forum and see how many gun owners voted for him. They are ashamed that they voted for him and will deny that they did. But they are very transparent and become enraged if you call him Hussein. They also will try to convince themselves and you that Obama has more important things to do than anti gun legislation. Obama said unlike McCain he could multitask. Unless people speak up we are in big trouble.
Slappy Posted January 18, 2009 at 07:12 PM Posted January 18, 2009 at 07:12 PM There is no law that says you have to turn in your legally owned firearms. If this bill does pass (and I don't think it will) it will be an unenforceable law, no one will follow it.This bill not only infringes the second, it also spreads out into the 4th. If it passes, it will be an interesting test case...
Bitter Posted January 18, 2009 at 07:16 PM Posted January 18, 2009 at 07:16 PM Obama has more important things to do than gun control? I always though that argument was laughable at best, I mean how busy do you have to be to throw your signature down, particularly for something you believe so deeply in. I'm sure he would cut his daily basketball game 20 seconds short to sign anti-gun legislation. Congress most certainly doesn't have anything better to do, else we wouldn't be seeing this so early. As for no one following the law if it was passed, if you are a hunter or if you are in a carry state, you would be pretty much forced to follow the law, unless you didn't care about the jail time and the loss of your weapons. Even if you didn't register, the federal governement could get legal warrants to search just by looking through state records and see that you have a FOID, or had a carry permit. We have also seen that IL does have some records of what specific firearms people own, eventhough there is no formal registration. This information could be used to get a warrant, and because the serach is reasonable in the face of a violation of federal law, it would not be a violation of the 4th Amendment.
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