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Unfortunately this gun is listed in the Chicago Municipal Code. I like the gun as well but you can't possess within Chicago or Cook County. See below:

 

 

BookmarkCHAPTER 8-20

WEAPONS

 

 

8-20-010 Definitions.

 

 

Article II. Possession of Firearms

 

 

8-20-020 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-030 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-035 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-040 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-050 Firearms – Protection of minors.

 

 

8-20-060 Possession of a laser sight accessory, firearm silencer or muffler.

 

 

8-20-070 Unlawful firearm, laser sight accessory, or firearm silencer or muffler in a motor vehicle – Impoundment.

 

 

8-20-075 Possession of assault weapons.

 

 

8-20-080 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-085 High capacity magazines and certain tubular magazine extensions – Sale and possession prohibited – Exceptions.

 

 

8-20-090 Limitation on purchase of handguns.

 

 

8-20-100 Sale or transfer of firearms at gun shows prohibited.

 

 

Article III. Reserved

 

 

8-20-110 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-120 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-130 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-140 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-145 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-150 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-160 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-170 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-180 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-185 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-190 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-200 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-205 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-210 Reserved.

 

 

Article IV. Miscellaneous Provisions

 

 

8-20-220 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-230 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-240 Reserved.

 

 

8-20-250 Seizure and forfeiture of firearms, ammunition, laser sight accessories and firearm silencers and mufflers – Authority and destruction.

 

 

8-20-260 Rules and regulations.

 

 

8-20-270 Acquisition or possession prohibited by law.

 

 

8-20-280 Reporting of destruction, transfer, loss or theft of firearms.

 

 

8-20-290 Severability.

 

 

Article V. Violation of Chapter Provisions

 

 

8-20-300 Violation – Penalty.

 

 

 

 

Bookmark8-20-010 Definitions.

 

 

For purposes of this chapter the following terms shall apply:

 

 

“The Act” means the Illinois Firearm Owners Identification Card Act, 430 ILCS 65/1 et seq., as amended.

 

 

“Ammunition” means any self-contained cartridge or shotgun shell, by whatever name known, which is designed to be used or adaptable to use in a firearm; excluding however:

 

 

(1) any ammunition used exclusively for line-throwing, signaling, or safety and required or recommended by the United States Coast Guard or Interstate Commerce Commission; or

 

 

(2) any ammunition designed exclusively for use with a stud or rivet driver or other similar industrial ammunition.

 

 

“Antique firearm” has the same meaning ascribed to that term in 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(16).

 

 

“Assault weapon” means any of the following, regardless of the caliber of ammunition accepted:

 

 

(a) (1) A semiautomatic rifle that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:

 

 

(A) a folding, telescoping or detachable stock;

 

 

(B) a handgun grip;

 

 

© a forward grip;

 

 

(D) a threaded barrel;

 

 

(E) a grenade, flare or rocket launcher; or

 

 

(F) a barrel shroud.

 

 

(2) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

 

 

(3) A semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle.

 

 

(4) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machine gun.

 

 

(5) A semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:

 

 

(A) a folding, telescoping or detachable stock;

 

 

(B) a handgun grip;

 

 

© a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds;

 

 

(D) a forward grip; or

 

 

(E) a grenade, flare or rocket launcher.

 

 

(6) A semiautomatic handgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine and has one or more of the following:

 

 

(A) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the handgun grip;

 

 

(B) a threaded barrel;

 

 

© a barrel shroud; or

 

 

(D) a second handgun grip.

 

 

(7) A semiautomatic version of an automatic handgun.

 

 

(8) A semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 15 rounds.

 

 

(9) A machine gun.

 

 

(10) All of the following rifles, including any copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such weapon:

 

 

(A) All AK types, including the following:

 

 

(i) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK-74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90. NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR-47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK-47, VEPR, WASR-10, and WUM

 

 

(ii) IZHMASH Saiga AK

 

 

(iii) MAADI AK47 and ARM

 

 

(iv) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S

 

 

(v) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.

 

 

(B) All AR types, including the following:

 

 

(i) AR-10

 

 

(ii) AR-15

 

 

(iii) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine

 

 

(iv) Armalite M15-T

 

 

(v) Barrett REC7

 

 

(vi) Beretta AR-70

 

 

(vii) Bushmaster ACR

 

 

(viii) Bushmaster Carbon 15

 

 

(ix) Bushmaster MOE series

 

 

(x) Bushmaster XM15

 

 

(xi) Colt Match Target Rifles

 

 

(xii) DoubleStar AR rifles

 

 

(xiii) DPMS Tactical Rifles

 

 

(xiv) Heckler & Koch MR556

 

 

(xv) Olympic Arms

 

 

(xvi) Remington R-15 rifles

 

 

(xvii) Rock River Arms LAR-15

 

 

(xviii) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles

 

 

(xix) Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifles

 

 

(xx) Stag Arms AR rifles

 

 

(xxi) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles.

 

 

© Barrett M107A1.

 

 

(D) Barrett M82A1.

 

 

(E) Beretta CX4 Storm.

 

 

(F) Calico Liberty Series.

 

 

(G) CETME Sporter.

 

 

(H)\ Daewoo K-1. K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100. and AR 110PC.

 

 

(I) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.

 

 

(J) Feather Industries AT-9.

 

 

(K) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.

 

 

(L) Hi-Point Carbine.

 

 

(M) HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1, and HK USC.

 

 

(N) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU-16, and RFB.

 

 

(O) SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551.

 

 

(P) Springfield Armory SAR-48.

 

 

(Q) Steyr AUG.

 

 

® Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M-14/20CF.

 

 

(S) All Thompson rifles, including the following:

 

 

(i) Thompson M1SB

 

 

(ii) Thompson T1100D

 

 

(iii) Thompson T150D

 

 

(iv) Thompson T1B

 

 

(v) Thompson T1B100D

 

 

(vi) Thompson T1B50D

 

 

(vii) Thompson T1BSB

 

 

(viii) Thompson T1-C

 

 

(ix) Thompson T1D

 

 

(x) Thompson T1SB

 

 

(xi) Thompson T5

 

 

(xii) Thompson T5100D

 

 

(xiii) Thompson TM1

 

 

(xiv) Thompson TM1C.

 

 

(T) UMAREX UZI Rifle.

 

 

(U) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.

 

 

(V) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.

 

 

(W) Vector Arms UZI Type.

 

 

(X) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.

 

 

(Y) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

 

 

(11) All of the following handguns, including any copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such weapon:

 

 

(A) All AK-47 types, including the following:

 

 

(i) Centurion 39 AK handgun

 

 

(ii) Draco AK-47 handgun

 

 

(iii) HCR AK-47 handgun

 

 

(iv) IO, Inc. Hellpup AK-47 handgun

 

 

(v) Krinkov handgun

 

 

(vi) Mini Draco AK-47 handgun

 

 

(vii) Yugo Krebs Krink handgun.

 

 

(B) All AR-15 types, including the following:

 

 

(i) American Spirit AR-15 handgun

 

 

(ii) Bushmaster Carbon 15 handgun

 

 

(iii) DoubleStar Corporation AR handgun

 

 

(iv) DPMS AR-15 handgun

 

 

(v) Olympic Arms AR-15 handgun

 

 

(vi) Rock River Arms LAR 15 handgun.

 

 

© Calico Liberty handguns.

 

 

(D) PSA SA58 PKP FAL handgun.

 

 

(E) Encom MP-9 and MP-45.

 

 

(F) Heckler & Koch model SP-89 handgun.

 

 

(G) Intratec AB-10, TEC-22 Scorpion, TEC-9, and TEC-DC9.

 

 

(H) Kel-Tec PLR 16 handgun.

 

 

(I) The following MAC types:

 

 

(i) MAC-10

 

 

(ii) MAC-11

 

 

(iii) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol. MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol

 

 

(iv) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11

 

 

(v) Velocity Arms VMAC.

 

 

(J) Sig Sauer P556 handgun.

 

 

(K) Sites Spectre.

 

 

(L) All Thompson types, including the following:

 

 

(i) Thompson TA510D

 

 

(ii) Thompson TA5.

 

 

(M) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.

 

 

(12) All of the following shotguns, including any copies or duplicates thereof with the capability of any such weapon:

 

 

(A) Franchi LAW-12 and SPAS 12.

 

 

(B) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following:

 

 

(i) IZHMASH Saiga 12

 

 

(ii) IZHMASH Saiga 12S

 

 

(iii) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP-01

 

 

(iv) IZHMASH Saiga 12K

 

 

(v) IZHMASH Saiga 12K-030

 

 

(vi) IZHMASH Saiga 12K-040 Taktika.

 

 

© Streetsweeper.

 

 

(D) Striker 12.

 

 

(13) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB.

 

 

(14) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (1) through (13) can be assembled.

 

 

(15) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (1), (2), (5), (9), (10), (12), (13), or (18).

 

 

(16) A sawed-off shotgun.

 

 

(17) A short-barrel rifle.

 

 

(18) A .50 caliber rifle.

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@ Chitownshooterz.. You might want to re word your statement because it is inaccurate. I do not know what shigt you pulled this off of but I live in the south suburbs of Chicago (Cook County) and I can buy, and legally own a lot of what you have listed including the Sub 2000 that is in question. Do your homework before posting misleading information.

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@Rebel1CSA; Sorry but my post is absolutely correct. It is right out of the Chicago Municipal Code. Check it out for yourself. Use the link below and follow the instructions:

 

http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/municipalcodeofchicago?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il

 

1. Select Title 8

2. Select Chapter 8-20 Weapons

3. Select 8-20-10 Definitions

4. Read it through

5. Better Idea, read the entire Chapter through

 

Some good advice. It's a very good idea to be thoroughly familiar with and observe the Chicago and Cook County gun laws. Boasting about owning illegal weapons to strangers or new acquaintances can get a person a visit from the CAGE unit or Sheriff's Office.

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As I recall, Cook County home rule municipalities can over-ride county code. The Cook County code would apply to unincorporated areas of the county or to towns/villages that do not adopt other legislation.

Don't take my word for it though. I am not an attorney but I know of Cook County towns that do not abide by the same restrictions as the county code.

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@Rebel1CSA; Sorry but my post is absolutely correct. It is right out of the Chicago Municipal Code. Check it out for yourself. Use the link below and follow the instructions:

 

http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Illinois/chicago_il/municipalcodeofchicago?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:chicago_il

 

1. Select Title 8

2. Select Chapter 8-20 Weapons

3. Select 8-20-10 Definitions

4. Read it through

5. Better Idea, read the entire Chapter through

 

Some good advice. It's a very good idea to be thoroughly familiar with and observe the Chicago and Cook County gun laws. Boasting about owning illegal weapons to strangers or new acquaintances can get a person a visit from the CAGE unit or Sheriff's Office.

 

7) A semiautomatic version of an automatic handgun .....

 

according to your link ^ this would make all glock pistols banned because glock makes a full auto version. But how can they ban a pistol with the CCA overriding home rule?

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Hello Everyone,

Just wondering if I could legally possess and own a Keltec Sub2000 9mm rifle in Chicago. Is this considered an "assault weapon" since it has a pistol grip? I'm debating whether I want to pick up a shotgun vs. the sub2000 for home defense.

Thanks in advance!

Another option is building an ar15 pistol from a virgin lower and buy 10 round mags. Shotguns are hard to wield in tight spaces and can go through multiple walls. Im not a lawyer but Id rather have to fight a case over the definition of "pistol" vs accidentaly harming someone through a wall. I've lived in Chicago and the rules are crazy. As far as I know there are certain things people never get charged with because they would rather have the laws on the books unchallenged, ie magazine cap, assault weapon ban. Still better to cover yourself by staying within the law or at least in the grey area at the margins. Just know its unlikely you'll ever see any gun again if it's confiscated in a dgu.

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