lockman

I think that was a realistic projection only if the fee was reasonable, training not requiring a couple days of your life, and the transportation restrictions making many urban dwellers legally overburdened to exercise the privilege. All speculation, but I believe the numbers would be tripled by now at $50 and 4 hrs. And double again if the out of state permits were not effectively banned in practice.

There's a simple way to test your theory. Go to the mall when it's closed. Kick down the door and walk around inside. When you're arrested, tell them it's a public right-of-way because they routinely let the public in. If you beat the trespass charges, then your interpretation is correct. I might leave the gun at home for this experiment, though. I though he said not the buildings?

Sometimes you don't realize all the extra words that you use as time fillers when speaking, "You know". I have become used to it in speech, but it still looks awkward on paper or in this case PDF.

The rules they post are just fine. But the provisions prohibiting handguns do not apply to licensees unless they post the official signage and only to the extent allowed under state law.

Is reciprocity the proper term or did NV update their recognition?

The Heller case I believe stated that regulation or prohibitions on concealed firearms is presumptively lawful. They never directly addressed it specifically, only in the context of both being prohibited at the same time.

Do I take that as the NRA will not support an open carry case? Since concealed carry can be regulated or prohibited etirely in public, doesn't that leave open carry as the only other means in states where concealed carry restrictions prohibit otherwise lawful gun owners from public carry?

Any IL resident denied a permit but has a FOID card willing to be a test case to get open carry in Il? That is what we need now for a forward moving case.

This in itself should be wise advice to all, Attorneys do not play attorneys on the internet so any internet legal advice is suspect on its face.

You will have to find out from someone if the parking lot is a posted location under title 18. If it is not posted you will be fine in your vehicle. I have no doubt the building will be posted in accordance with title 18.

License received today 3/4/14. Postmarked 2/28/14 Applied & paid 12/18/13 with prints. App # 36 Location Elgin License # Irrelevant

Not quite, more like a state granted privilege. Lot's more to work on.

It has been approved on the list, I am sure IC will send you the id# for it with the package.

The 24th amendment is a symptom of our current way of thinking. Just pass something to correct a problem that the solution is already available but ignored. In principle a poll tax is a prior restraint if not a operational ban on the free exercise of a right, just like license fees to keep or bear arms.

If SCOTUS allows it then the door is open to re-institute the poll tax.

Yes, and a gangbanger openly carrying on his porch is so dangerous but twenty bangers concealing fifty guns on the same porch is so much more in tune with the public safety! Chicago, Chicago it's my kind of town. NOT.

One over-riding theme present in Chicago's response is " As Chicago has demonstrated", "Chicago has abundantly justified", "Chicago has already demonstrated", "Chicago has shown", and "Chicago has previously established". Where are the cites? what has Chicago demonstrated beyond the claim they have already demonstrated something? The few cites the reference with the above prefaces are meaningless in that context or already argued and dismissed by the 7th! :slap:

This just shows that even the legal minds representing the city are totally out of touch with reality. Their powers of observation and reasoning are non-existent. They are living in a cartoon world created by their employers warped ideals.

For once I don't know what to say, I am almost speechless!

Someone pinch me!

I keep getting a message to contact the site administrator to update the talkapak plugin.

I would think not, as this is a motion to dismiss and the trial court judge has denied the motion so one step closer to a trial.

Any weapons that employs an explosive upon the target and probably can kill or injure people in close proximity when the target is struck is certainly ripe for proper limitations and safeguards.

Gura probably writes them for the common man because he knows in the 2A community we read them, digest them and spit them back out as ammunition against our foes. We get enough horse crap out of Chicago to fertilize all the farms south of I-88, so the simple approach is refreshing.