Molly B. Posted March 5, 2011 at 12:56 PM Share Posted March 5, 2011 at 12:56 PM Women of Illinois Make Your Voice Heard! Right to Carry Bill HB148 will be Heard in House Agriculture Committee Stratton Bldg. Room 413Tues. March 8, 2011 2:00 pm Let's fill the committee room with the women of Illinois showing support for Right to Carry in Illinois! (Men are welcome too of course) When right to carry laws were being passed in other states, legislators were asked why they decided to vote in support of the law. Their response was that when the women of their state began demanding the right to protect themselves it was very difficult to look them in the eye and deny them that right. No one knows more than women how important it is to be able to protect themselves. We encourage the women of Illinois to attend the hearing and sign a witness slip in support of the bill. The U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Heller vs DC and McDonald vs Chicago is building momentum behind HB148 introduced by Rep. Brandon Phelps. Those two decisions are poised to bring the right to keep and bear arms back to Illinois. Let's send a message to Gov. Quinn that the days of Illinois women defending themselves with car keys and hair combs are over! Attend the Committee Hearing! Make your voice heard!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooch Posted March 5, 2011 at 12:58 PM Share Posted March 5, 2011 at 12:58 PM Damn I wish I could make this........I would even dress up like a woman! Please keep us posted Molly and again, thanks for all you do! Gooch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted March 5, 2011 at 03:16 PM Share Posted March 5, 2011 at 03:16 PM Mrs. Abolt and I will be there!! I'll get her a seat up front!! I'll just stand in the back and watch the show!! AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paknon2wheels Posted March 5, 2011 at 05:20 PM Share Posted March 5, 2011 at 05:20 PM I would really love to be there, but traveling to Springfield two times in three days just isn't possible. What would have been the perfect theme, would have been to have the committee hearing on March 9th and have IGOLD on March 10th. Then those of us coming from a distance could have came down on the 9th spent the night in a hotel and been there for the 10th. Or have the hearing on the 8th and IGOLD on the 9th. Errr well you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houndawg Posted March 6, 2011 at 02:36 AM Share Posted March 6, 2011 at 02:36 AM Damn I wish I could make this........I would even dress up like a woman! Please keep us posted Molly and again, thanks for all you do! Gooch I don't have the legs for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs. Federal Farmer Posted March 7, 2011 at 07:08 AM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 07:08 AM I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assistantchief Posted March 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM My wife and I are making a mini "2nd Amendment Rights Vacation" out of the committee meeting and IGOLD rally. We're coming from down south to attend both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted March 7, 2011 at 02:33 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 02:33 PM My wife and I are making a mini "2nd Amendment Rights Vacation" out of the committee meeting and IGOLD rally. We're coming from down south to attend both. Fantastic!! We need all the ladies we can get in attendance! Welcome AsstChief!! You can come too!! AB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klippr Posted March 7, 2011 at 04:03 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 04:03 PM Is an audio feed available for those of us that have jobs that we can't escape from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTripper Posted March 7, 2011 at 04:53 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 04:53 PM Can someone clarify something for me-There will be no "vote" on Tuesday, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:00 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:00 PM Can someone clarify something for me-There will be no "vote" on Tuesday, right? The vote will be to either pass it out of committee or not.....I think? If it never leaves the committee it can never be voted on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:20 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:20 PM Can someone clarify something for me-There will be no "vote" on Tuesday, right? The vote will be to either pass it out of committee or not.....I think? If it never leaves the committee it can never be voted on.If/when it can be voted on, does that happen quickly or do we play a waiting game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiburbian Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:21 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:21 PM I don't really have a doubt that it will pass out of committee. The question is will it be allowed to be voted on... That said, I am coming Tuesday and bringing a friend. I want to be there for the testimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTripper Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:39 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 05:39 PM Tons of stuff on tomorrows docket. Hope we dont get the short end of the stick http://ilga.gov/house/committees/hearing.asp?CommitteeID=922&GA=97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Gwinn Posted March 7, 2011 at 06:20 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 06:20 PM The vote tomorrow is on whether to pass it out of committee. That vote will pass it out of committee. The important thing is to make a good showing of support at the committee hearing and get powerful testimony on the record there. On the floor, Speaker Madigan probably can't keep it from coming to a vote, but he has always required a super-majority to pass it (this is his prerogative because Illinois legislative leaders are nearly all-powerful in their own Houses, and because he can argue that shall-issue right-to-carry takes power away from home-rule municipalities and therefore requires the super-majority.) That means we would need 71 votes rather than 60 to pass it in the House. The Senate's rules are different; we probably wouldn't need a super-majority there, and support is stronger there in any case, but President Cullerton can bottle the bill in a committee and never let it out, and so far he's doing that. The question is whether there's enough momentum and pressure mounting to push him to move. But we need to do the next thing that is right in front of us, and that means people like Asst.Chief and his wife are going to be important tomorrow. I'm going to try to get there, but I can't be on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vactor Posted March 7, 2011 at 11:30 PM Share Posted March 7, 2011 at 11:30 PM Women of Illinois Make Your Voice Heard! Right to Carry Bill HB148 will be Heard in House Agriculture Committee Stratton Bldg. Room 413Tues. March 8, 2011 2:00 pm Let's fill the committee room with the women of Illinois showing support for Right to Carry in Illinois! (Men are welcome too of course) When right to carry laws were being passed in other states, legislators were asked why they decided to vote in support of the law. Their response was that when the women of their state began demanding the right to protect themselves it was very difficult to look them in the eye and deny them that right. No one knows more than women how important it is to be able to protect themselves. We encourage the women of Illinois to attend the hearing and sign a witness slip in support of the bill. The U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Heller vs DC and McDonald vs Chicago is building momentum behind HB148 introduced by Rep. Brandon Phelps. Those two decisions are poised to bring the right to keep and bear arms back to Illinois. Let's send a message to Gov. Quinn that the days of Illinois women defending themselves with car keys and hair combs are over! Attend the Committee Hearing! Make your voice heard!! and let us all NOT FORGET what the ISP thinks women should do. (i am ashamed to even quote the text from their website, they should be ashamed of themselves and they have NO clue about how crime really works) "Fighting for your safety may be necessary. However, if you start out fighting you cancel any other options that might be open to you. Since many attacks on women are not sexually motivated, and are designed to degrade and humiliate, talking your way out of it may be easier. * There is documentation of assailants that left a would-be-victim alone after she told him that she was pregnant and it would kill her baby. (Some case were women that were too old to even have a baby.) * Telling an attacker that you have VD or AIDS can discourage him. * It may sound disgusting, but putting your fingers into you throat and making yourself vomit usually gets results. (This method is not often used except as a last resort.) * Use your imagination and you can think of others." courtesy of: http://www.isp.state.il.us/crime/assault.cfm#ASLTCONF concealed carry prevents aggressors from looking at EVERY person aas a potential victim and no longer are the weak subject to the whims of the strong (who, btw, only bulk up and get STRONGER in the penitentiary) cocnealed carry NOW for all non-felon illinois residents!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csbassplayer2003 Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:22 AM Share Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:22 AM All I can say is, its a good thing you folks are more optimistic than myself. I want RTC. I want politicians to stop walking over the Constitution they swore an oath to uphold, but in the current political climate, where politicians don't care what their constituents want, or what protects them and their families, I can't see it getting past Gov. Quinn. I predict it will pass in both houses, get vetoed, and then we are back to square one. The nature of the current politician is as such that a lot of them fall back on the "you are uninformed and don't know what you are talking about, so I'll do want I want, but vote for me come November...". I hope to the good Lord that I am wrong. I hope fine people have their rights restored, but for the moment my pragmatic side is in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzard Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:34 AM Share Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:34 AM All I can say is, its a good thing you folks are more optimistic than myself. I want RTC. I want politicians to stop walking over the Constitution they swore an oath to uphold, but in the current political climate, where politicians don't care what their constituents want, or what protects them and their families, I can't see it getting past Gov. Quinn. I predict it will pass in both houses, get vetoed, and then we are back to square one. The nature of the current politician is as such that a lot of them fall back on the "you are uninformed and don't know what you are talking about, so I'll do want I want, but vote for me come November...". I hope to the good Lord that I am wrong. I hope fine people have their rights restored, but for the moment my pragmatic side is in control. Welcome to the forum, csbp! And keep in mind - whenever the winds change, Quinn turns like a windsock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abolt243 Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:38 AM Share Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:38 AM I predict it will pass in both houses, get vetoed, and then we are back to square one. Vetoes are made to be overridden!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USArmyRet Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:44 AM Share Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:44 AM I will be glued to this website tomarrow for updates as they happen.............Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csbassplayer2003 Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:54 AM Share Posted March 8, 2011 at 03:54 AM I will be glued to this website tomarrow for updates as they happen.............Good luck. Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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