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This is simple.... :lips sealed:

 

here is what we need to do, get the public records of his firearm ownership and his expired registration info (should be public record or find enough info to go ahead with the following plan).

 

then take the info to the DA and tell him to start a case against this guy.....when the DA refuses go to a judge to file a complaint against the DA, when the judge refuses (which from what I understand he is forbidden from turning down a complaint against the DA) go to the grand jury and burn the DA and the judge...then have the grand jury issue the search warrants to burn this guy.

 

there is a process to follow here if you know what your doing and you can get alot of corrupt ppl if you understand the processes (im not the most informed on this but a good lawyer would know the ins and outs of doing this).

 

you may want to go to the grand jury first to get the search warrant so you can get the evidence on this guy.

 

the way I understand it you can pretty much force all these guys into a corner if your good AND make it stick.

 

We are citizens not slaves and were tired of the double standard.

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This is simple.... :lips sealed:

 

here is what we need to do, get the public records of his firearm ownership and his expired registration info (should be public record or find enough info to go ahead with the following plan).

 

Got a mouse in your pocket?? Go for it!! Contact those folks, whom I'm sure will listen to a "downstater" and go to war against the father in law of the Governor. That'll go over well in the Chicago machine.

 

then take the info to the DA and tell him to start a case against this guy.....when the DA refuses go to a judge to file a complaint against the DA, when the judge refuses (which from what I understand he is forbidden from turning down a complaint against the DA) go to the grand jury and burn the DA and the judge...then have the grand jury issue the search warrants to burn this guy.

 

there is a process to follow here if you know what your doing and you can get alot of corrupt ppl if you understand the processes (im not the most informed on this but a good lawyer would know the ins and outs of doing this).

 

Oh, now I see, you expect everyone else to do this 'cause you're not the most informed. And, who do you propose pay for the "good lawyer"??

 

you may want to go to the grand jury first to get the search warrant so you can get the evidence on this guy.

 

I believe judges issue search warrants.

the way I understand it you can pretty much force all these guys into a corner if your good AND make it stick.

 

We are citizens not slaves and were tired of the double standard.

 

Then quit daydreaming up all these conspiracy theories, and legal angles for everyone else to do and actually take action. You contated Rep Reis or Senator Jones or Congressman Simkus lately?? I didn't think so.[/color]

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I believe judges issue search warrants.

 

I believe grand juries can do this as well......it would really take someone on the ground up there to be able to get this done.

 

 

And, who do you propose pay for the "good lawyer"??

 

every once in a while lawyers do take things like this on just to buck the establishment......

 

 

You contated Rep Reis or Senator Jones or Congressman Simkus lately??

 

I have talked to both of these guys before....Reis "helped" out the farmers with the property tax problem by reclassifying their land but if you read the fine print it makes the farms essentially owned by the state if they choose to take it.

 

Shimkus has ZERO interest in getting the border fence built or giving ANY oversight into the SPP project to make the president follow the constitution.

 

writing, emailing, calling reps good but until we put the fear of the people back in these politicians they are not going to give us our freedoms back....plus it would feel pretty good to see one of these elitist jerks get treated like the rest of us.

 

 

Then quit daydreaming up all these conspiracy theories, and legal angles

 

I have read about this attack plan being successfully carried out in the most corrupt county in TX and it put some officials in a wringer really good. So its not a daydream, granted IL law may vary slightly but its probobly doable.

 

I really didnt mean to be disrespectful I was just trying to throw some ideas out there to see if we might be able to make an example out of this guy....

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Ald. Richard Mell got a City Council committee to approve a change to a Chicago law on his behalf Wednesday, but argued it would benefit thousands of other city residents who, like him, simply failed to renew their gun licenses.

 

"It was probably good I didn't [renew], because there are an awful lot of other citizens" who had the same problem, Mell (33rd) said after the Police and Fire Committee approved an amendment to the gun registration ordinance. The change would allow those whose registration lapsed to renew at a slightly higher fee.

 

Re-registration of the guns would have to occur within 4 months of passage of the ordinance by the full City Council, which could come as soon as next Wednesday.

 

Mell, a hunter and gun collector, sought the change after he forgot to renew his registrations and was told he could not do so because the deadline had passed.

 

The alderman said Wednesday he was "inundated" with calls from "law-abiding citizens" in the same predicament. Former Illinois Atty. General Roland Burris called him to say he was storing a gun in Decatur because he forgot to renew his registration, Mell said. The engraved shotgun was given to Burris by Illinois State Police when Burris left office, the alderman added.

 

Committee Chairman Ald. Isaac Carothers (29th), meanwhile, said he expected another amendment to be drafted that would allow retired police officers to register newly purchased handguns. Federal law allow allows retired officers to carry concealed weapons, but city ordinance allows them to only re-register their old service revolvers, not new weapons.

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Ald. Richard Mell got a City Council committee to approve a change to a Chicago law on his behalf Wednesday, but argued it would benefit thousands of other city residents who, like him, simply failed to renew their gun licenses.

 

They're so damned full of it--we're supposed to believe that "thousands" of Chicago residents attempted to register guns between May 1, 2007 and April 1, 2008, and their registration application was rejected solely because they were too late? I have to call BS on that one.

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This is simple.... :shocked:

 

here is what we need to do, get the public records of his firearm ownership and his expired registration info (should be public record or find enough info to go ahead with the following plan).

 

then take the info to the DA and tell him to start a case against this guy.....when the DA refuses go to a judge to file a complaint against the DA, when the judge refuses (which from what I understand he is forbidden from turning down a complaint against the DA) go to the grand jury and burn the DA and the judge...then have the grand jury issue the search warrants to burn this guy.

 

there is a process to follow here if you know what your doing and you can get alot of corrupt ppl if you understand the processes (im not the most informed on this but a good lawyer would know the ins and outs of doing this).

 

you may want to go to the grand jury first to get the search warrant so you can get the evidence on this guy.

 

the way I understand it you can pretty much force all these guys into a corner if your good AND make it stick.

 

We are citizens not slaves and were tired of the double standard.

I believe that what you would want to get a is a "writ of mandamus" against the DA if he won't do his job, probably the same thing against the judge, I'd expect, if he wouldn't do his.

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Ald. Richard Mell got a City Council committee to approve a change to a Chicago law on his behalf Wednesday, but argued it would benefit thousands of other city residents who, like him, simply failed to renew their gun licenses.

 

They're so damned full of it--we're supposed to believe that "thousands" of Chicago residents attempted to register guns between May 1, 2007 and April 1, 2008, and their registration application was rejected solely because they were too late? I have to call BS on that one.

 

Re-registration of the guns would have to occur within 4 months of passage of the ordinance by the full City Council, which could come as soon as next Wednesday.

 

It seems like they are going to allow a 4 month window to register after the ordinance has passed.

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It seems like they are going to allow a 4 month window to register after the ordinance has passed.

 

Actually, according to this story, the committee-approved version is much more inclusive than Mell's (excerpt follows):

 

It would have applied, only to gun owners who attempted to re-register their guns between May 1, 2007 and April 1, 2008 only to be rejected on grounds the registrations had lapsed.

 

The ordinance approved today quadruples the amnesty period. If approved by the full Council, it would apply to everybody who "possesses a firearm that was at one time validly registered to that person in the city of Chicago."

 

So not only is the window four months long instead of just one, but they're not just talking about guns that someone tried to register between May 1, 2007 and April 1, 2008 (and the registration turned down for being too late), but any guns that had ever been registered.

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Now,all of a sudden,they're worried about the "law-abiding citizen".I wonder who they think they're kidding. :shocked:

 

IL, more so CROOK county IL, more so CHICAGO, IL make me freaking :lol:

 

WE really DO NOT matter! It's all about them, $$$, power, who you know, who knows you, and it's insanely corrupt :laugh:

 

Anyone that cannot see what is going on in this situation must be living under a rock!!! It is VERY obvious this would be done PURELY for Mell :laugh: Seriously, I wonder how many people "forgot" to register their weapons within the same time period that Mell did!!! Out of those how many people would use this initiative to register them... Of course I've heard the "well, we wanna get a grip on the number of weapons in the city" again you would have to be DEAF DUMB AND BLIND to believe that (nothing against deaf or blind people) if they really wanted to "get a grip on how many weapons were in the city" there would not be a date restriction for this either that so happens to conveniently be the period of time that Mell needs so he can re-register, what about people that failed to re-register BEFORE THAT! But oh no they could not do that because then from what I understand that would "lift the handgun ban" in effect... I think either the pro or anti side will be against this move, but is there anything that can really be done... I doubt it :laugh: seeing as how corrupt they are ;) They will just do it, because they can :laugh:

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War on Guns has a suggestion that appeals to me.

 

If I were an Illinois gun owner, I would be pressing organizations claiming to represent me to file a freedom of information demand for copies of all correspondence from Chicago gun owners who told the city they were in the same predicament as Richard Mell. Conveniently I notice he mentioned he was called, so perhaps phone logs could be included at as well. You could do it in a way to protect their identities, and use it to validate that the city has been "inundated" and the new law will benefit "thousands."

 

heck, I'd think a quick audit of police records for how many have not renewed during the designated time period ought to give a good quick 'n dirty snapshot, once you factor in people who moved or died--but then again, maybe not, because who in their right mind would play along with this evil game?

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when the ordinance passes, I will make an attempt to register my pistol for the heck of it.

 

I'll post up what happens.

I still don't really understand what you hope to gain by doing that. It's your choice, of course--I'm just puzzled about the motivation.

 

to draw attention to the double-standard, and curiosity to see if my registration goes through.

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Supposedly, live video will be available for Wednesday's 10 AM city council meeting (during which the vote on the ordinance is expected to be taken).

 

Anyone watching this? Willing to report what goes down?

 

Just started but I only can for about 10 minutes.

 

I'd forgotten all about it until Garand posted the reminder. I got a few minutes, and then the video feed crashed, and I can't get it back. Anyone else still getting it?

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Supposedly, live video will be available for Wednesday's 10 AM city council meeting (during which the vote on the ordinance is expected to be taken).

 

Anyone watching this? Willing to report what goes down?

 

Just started but I only can for about 10 minutes.

 

I'd forgotten all about it until Garand posted the reminder. I got a few minutes, and then the video feed crashed, and I can't get it back. Anyone else still getting it?

 

I can still get it.

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