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Then I thank the gods I don't have any.

What about 80% completed lowers with no serial number one wonders?

I realize that AR lowers fall under the provisions of this new act. For an unassembled lower however there is no caliber designation as the same lower could be made into a pistol or rifle in .223, .300 Blackout, .458 Socom or even .410 shotgun. In fact until it is attached to a suitable upper assembly it “could” be either a rifle or a pistol. If an owner were to try to register a bare lower, how should they answer the questions regarding Rifle/pistol/shotgun and caliber/gauge? Or is there an “N/A” option for those items?

I guess I 'could' always just epoxy the adapters into the mag base? But I'll wait till I see the magazine police are hanging out at the suburban ranges.

My highest capacity carry handgun has a 12 round magazine, so no worries ever there, I do have a CZ SP-01 Tactical - strictly a range gun - that has 17 round mags into which I've installed 2 round cutoff adapters.

Low-cost hi db rated non-electric muffs and low-cost hi db rated plugs...... always. Unbeatable hearing protection at a super-affordable price.

I'm satisfied with my three 'low tech' Amazon Blink cameras. Front and rear doors of the house and across the yard at the garage entry door. Battery life is quite good and options for free or pay subscriptions.

And THAT is why that Ice Cream franchise sells all those different flavors. IMHO we are living in the 'Golden Age' of handguns. I'm 74, been shooting for over 60 years, and marvel at the plethora of 'good' choices for reliable, safe firearms there are at ALL budget levels. I reckon we can thank the era of the "polymer wonders" as the genesis of this Golden Age. I well remember when low cost/affordable meant Saturday Night Special crapola, Not anymore....IMHO.

Thanks for the info. I thought it was something different, but still kudos to Sig for the offer. I would have no issue owning one.

IMHO Sig resolved the issue with the recall. The BEST safety for EVERY firearm lies between the ears of the shooter. I have a few different handguns in my carry rotation, all with one in the chamber, most with no external safety. Cuz when the feces hits the rotary ventilator I may well need it to fire now, not after I do some manipulation I could fumble. Caveat, I am NOT in the Israeli armed forces, nor do I train at the high level they do. I'm a geezer with arthritis and will never carry in any condition other than one in the pipe.

The ATF notice simply puts 'recreational' users on notice. I'm personally more Libertarian than anything else and have a Hoosier brother -(Constitutional Carry State) who chuckles every time I mention the 3-day waiting period, permit classes and renewals, FOID cards and other 'nonsense' gun laws in Illinois. I further would have NO problem were the US a "Constitutional Stoner" country. This whole Rights depend on your Geography situation is a mess.

I 'think' that what I wrote is that anyone who SMOKES pot is an unlawful user as defined by Federal law. I could of course be mistaken. I don't see where I included your choice of scenario? My comment would therefore suggest regular/frequent users of the stuff.... at least that was my intent. Again, what anyone else does is of NO concern or interest to me. If I was an occasional user of the stuff I couldn't sign the 4473 stating I didn't.

Based on FEDERAL law, and the 4473 IS a Federal form afterall, anyone who smokes pot IS an "unlawful user of". Doesn't say anything about 'Am I high right now'. To be clear I have no horse in this race, merely expressing my interpretation of the forms intent. Life is a series of choices and consequences.

Until such time - if ever - that wacky weed becomes Federally legal? I think I'll continue to stick to the occasional beer and not have any concerns over perjury on a Federal 4473 form. Ask anyone, I'm goofy enough as it is without adding any strange chemicals to my chubby bod.😉

Kinda related - just picked up a couple 15 round MagBlocks for my CZ 75 SP-01 Tactical. With USPS shipping = $17.25. The only handgun I own with over 15 round capacity. I've spent a whole lot more for a whole lot less in my time - LOL - so even when this latest idiotic infringement gets thrown out, it's not like I'm out any big bucks or had to give up a pistol.

You always have the option of selling it to an out-of-State FFL, transferring it to them through your local FFL? Or would your local FFL buy your handgun if you offered it with only a 10 round mag? I'm 'presuming' you are looking to sell off your pistol soon rather than keeping it under the new "bans"?

I buy enough stuff online to know that when anything I've ordered has the misforune of coming via USPS I can ignore any tracking data obtained from them and just wait for the thing to arrive when it arrives. lol

I wonder out loud how many small town mom-n-pop shoppes in Illinois - regardless of products sold - have closed over the past 5 years. MY primary frame of reference is that of the many storefronts and strip malls in my neighborhood in a major city (Chicago). In that brief 5 year period I've seen a number of places change operations 2-3 times, some still remain empty. I suspect many small retail businesses have a tough time surviving in an Online/Amazon/Big Box Store marketplace. Gun emporiums included. Illinois has been a very unfriendly place for small business for a MIGHTY long time. New legislation has not improved that reality.

Now that I'm 70 I have witnessed the closure of jevery mom-n-pop store of my 'yoot'. I no longer recgnize the store fronts in my neighborhood, and in truth until I choose to learn Spanish I can't even read most of the window signs to be certain what goods they are offering to those who can. Such is the nature of the changing face of America and small business I reckon. I frequently read on this and other gun forums posts by folks who visit the brick&mortar places to fondle guns and then leave to buy them online elsewhere. Can't exactly help that brick&mortar joint thrive? I'm 'guilty' of doing a LOT of my shopping on Amazon Prime for the cost savings and shopping convenience their Same-1- 2 Day free delivery offers. Most of MY clothes come from that world famous fashion house - Walmart. Same goes for a lot of things around my house. I expect that many small-town stores of all merchandise across America will fade into history and/or be replaced by others. These new legislative actions DO put a new financial burden on all gun businesses. Those successful enough to bear that burden will continue, those for whom that investment is a make or break situation? Won't.

Saying 'far-fetched conspiracy' is kinda redundant.. isn't it? Akin to saying "crooked politician". - lol

I wonder out loud of any of the 'franchise' type gun shops like Point Blank will seize the opportunity to establish strategically placed 'rural' stores around the State? I freely admit that I don't know enough about demographics and required market share to determine if such an idea is financially sound.

"When all the FFL's close, there will be zero legal way for Illinois residents to get a gun. " That IS technically true, but it also presumes that all the large gun shoppes and big box stores that already comply with the new laws, or will soon, will suddenly decide they hate getting all that new business and close shop too? Anything possible, but not everything is probable. A decade or so ago I'd have staked everything I owned that in my lifetime Illinois would never allow concealed carry to exist. It only took 4 years for the courts to intervene and prove me wrong.

I was thinking that the list of towns mentioned in this thread that are experiencing small shop closures would be a valid Geography category for an Illinois Jeopardy game. If you can say within 50 miles where any of them are in this State? You win a prize. So says this city-clicker mope anyway.

On a semi-related note, much bigger companies have their own issues: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/these-retailers-have-announced-store-closures-in-2019.html And perhaps directly related to this topic, how many mom-n-pop shops have had to close their doors because of increasing lost profit from gun sales due to people shopping online and just needing an FFL for transfers?

OK, one last few feet down the rabbit hole. Believe what you like but NO I have NEVER gone 70 in a 35, 90 in a 55 nor 105 in a 70 speed zone. If I had I would consider myself an irresponsible reckless a-hole of a driver. IMHO so would anyone else with even half a brain..... and so does the law.... and I thank the gods for that small favor. And with that I sign off this wandering off topic thread for good. Those who wish to try to defend reckless, irresponsible behavior of any kind won't understand or benefit from any further discourse from the lowly likes of me.