HB0867 CRIM CD&CD CORR-AGG BATTERY

[45superman]

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the offense of aggravated battery with a firearm is also committed if the firearm is discharged on school grounds at a person known to be a student and causes injury to that student. Provides for enhanced penalties for carrying or possessing firearms or other dangerous weapons in a conveyance owned, leased, or contracted by a public transportation agency or on a public way within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public transportation facility. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that it is an aggravating factor in sentencing that the defendant committed an offense while the defendant or the victim was in a train, bus, or other vehicle used for public transportation.

 

 

http://ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp...mp;SessionID=76

[abolt243]

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the offense of aggravated battery with a firearm is also committed if the firearm is discharged on school grounds at a person known to be a student and causes injury to that student. Provides for enhanced penalties for carrying or possessing firearms or other dangerous weapons in a conveyance owned, leased, or contracted by a public transportation agency or on a public way within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public transportation facility. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that it is an aggravating factor in sentencing that the defendant committed an offense while the defendant or the victim was in a train, bus, or other vehicle used for public transportation.

 

http://ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp...mp;SessionID=76

 

I really have no objection to this bill and the penalties it provides for. But, we know that it's just another warm, fuzzy, feel good law that will get bargained away when the criminal gets his wrist slapped and turned loose less than 24 hours after he's arrested with a smoking gun in his hand!

 

T

[Silver Guardian]

This sounds like their creating an insurance policy in case concealed carry is ever allowed in Chicago, given the Public Transportation part of it.

[ilphil]

Thanks for covering by back on this one 45...hadn't had time to go over the last of my group in detail yet.

[ilphil]

Thanks for covering by back on this one 45...hadn't had time to go over the last of my group in detail yet.

[45superman]

Thanks for covering by back on this one 45...hadn't had time to go over the last of my group in detail yet.

 

No problem--actually, someone else pointed it out. I wasn't even keeping track of who was watching what. As long as we catch 'em all, I don't care who finds 'em first.

[Chiburbian]

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the offense of aggravated battery with a firearm is also committed if the firearm is discharged on school grounds at a person known to be a student and causes injury to that student. Provides for enhanced penalties for carrying or possessing firearms or other dangerous weapons in a conveyance owned, leased, or contracted by a public transportation agency or on a public way within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public transportation facility. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that it is an aggravating factor in sentencing that the defendant committed an offense while the defendant or the victim was in a train, bus, or other vehicle used for public transportation.

 

http://ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp...mp;SessionID=76

 

I really have no objection to this bill and the penalties it provides for. But, we know that it's just another warm, fuzzy, feel good law that will get bargained away when the criminal gets his wrist slapped and turned loose less than 24 hours after he's arrested with a smoking gun in his hand!

 

T

 

I don't like it because it creates penalties for people who either cannot afford to dive or simply choose to take public transportation.

 

If you can carry legally, just not anywhere you need or want to go, what's the point?

[Molly B.]

Provides for enhanced penalties for carrying or possessing firearms or other dangerous weapons in a conveyance owned, leased, or contracted by a public transportation agency or on a public way within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public transportation facility.

 

I have big problems with this part. What if you're driving by or walking by a bus stop?

 

Molly B.

[Buzzard]

Provides for enhanced penalties for carrying or possessing firearms or other dangerous weapons in a conveyance owned, leased, or contracted by a public transportation agency or on a public way within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public transportation facility.

 

I have big problems with this part. What if you're driving by or walking by a bus stop?

 

Molly B.

Definitely! That's almost a quarter mile distance. A bus stop could be a block away from a simple traffic stop and you're busted. Overkill, overkill.

[moparcardave]

Synopsis As Introduced

Amends the Criminal Code of 1961. Provides that the offense of aggravated battery with a firearm is also committed if the firearm is discharged on school grounds at a person known to be a student and causes injury to that student. Provides for enhanced penalties for carrying or possessing firearms or other dangerous weapons in a conveyance owned, leased, or contracted by a public transportation agency or on a public way within 1,000 feet of the real property comprising a public transportation facility. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections. Provides that it is an aggravating factor in sentencing that the defendant committed an offense while the defendant or the victim was in a train, bus, or other vehicle used for public transportation.

 

http://ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp...mp;SessionID=76

 

I really have no objection to this bill and the penalties it provides for. But, we know that it's just another warm, fuzzy, feel good law that will get bargained away when the criminal gets his wrist slapped and turned loose less than 24 hours after he's arrested with a smoking gun in his hand!

 

T

 

I don't like it because it creates penalties for people who either cannot afford to dive or simply choose to take public transportation.

 

If you can carry legally, just not anywhere you need or want to go, what's the point?

 

Funny how the liberals like Obama say one thing applies people who obey the law, and if you are a gangster, gang banger, then it's because of their terrible childhood.

 

"Most people like the idea of a politician who votes for individual rights, but the fact that Obama could do so and still maintain the respect of law enforcement shows his political skills. Obama voted against a proposal to criminalize contact with a gang for any convicts on probation or out on bail. In 2001, Obama opposed making gang activity eligible for the death penalty. "There's a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color.... I think it's problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing." In 1999, Obama opposed mandatory adult prosecution for youth who discharge a firearm nea a school, declaring, "There is really no proof or indication that automatic transfers and increased penalties and adult penalties for juvenile offenses have, in fact, proven to be more effective in reducing juvenile crime or cutting back on recidivism."

Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.146 Oct 30, 2007