flw Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:04 AM Share Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:04 AM I took the class but cannot remember what the instructor said to the following; After a self defense shooting you then called 911, how am I legally or practically suppose to secure my gun without keeping it on my person? i.e. Outside of my vehicle and in public space or store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:12 AM Share Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:12 AM If you were out and about and carrying, put it in your holster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:21 AM Share Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:21 AM You shouldn't give up your firearm until the scene is secured by more people with guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom28 Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:41 AM Share Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:41 AM Scan and access. Once the treat is over, holster weapon. Wait till police arrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom28 Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:57 AM Share Posted October 4, 2015 at 12:57 AM Once the police do arrive. Tell them you are the victim and point out the perp if they are still there or tell then the direction the went. Point out any evidence , eg gun , knife, crowbar etc, if necessary. Tell them if there are any witnesses and point then out. Now it's time to exercise your right to remain silent. Tell them you plan to fully cooperate and give a statement after you have spoken to a lawyer. Now call your lawyer away from any police presence. Make sure they can't hear you. You could tell them your chest hurts and wish to be transported to a hospital. Now you'll have time to calm down to collect your thoughts. In my case I'll be calling CCWsafe Emergency line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted October 5, 2015 at 12:53 AM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 12:53 AM I was also told that it's best to complain about dizziness and chest pain and ask for ambulance in order to gather your thoughts, call attorney, and it takes a couple of sleep cycles to clearly remember in detail what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Posted October 5, 2015 at 01:06 AM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 01:06 AM I was also told that it's best to complain about dizziness and chest pain and ask for ambulance in order to gather your thoughts, call attorney, and it takes a couple of sleep cycles to clearly remember in detail what happenedAyoob says the ambulance trick is a bad idea. Lying plus wasting resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windermere Posted October 5, 2015 at 01:32 AM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 01:32 AM I was also told that it's best to complain about dizziness and chest pain and ask for ambulance in order to gather your thoughts, call attorney, and it takes a couple of sleep cycles to clearly remember in detail what happenedAyoob says the ambulance trick is a bad idea. Lying plus wasting resources.Interesting but, I was told this by multiple officers. It's not lying... You're just respectfully declining to talk at this point. As far as physical symptoms you will definitely not feel normal after a high stress situation like a shooting. And I think not giving a statement when you're taken to the police station and asking to speak to a lawyer will piss off officers... But every situation is going to have a ton of variables... Maybe the police will be on your side maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flw Posted October 5, 2015 at 06:44 AM Author Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 06:44 AM My concern on re-holstering is the newer cop (or new copys in ear shot) that says out loud, "you have a gun". Then the transference of the gun to evidence with no new holes in me. This may indeed be the best generic way but want to be sure as all situations have some differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted October 5, 2015 at 09:10 AM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 09:10 AM Here's a little insight : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShawn Posted October 5, 2015 at 09:40 AM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 09:40 AM Definitely don't give "too much" info - even if asked. One of the popular ones I hear a lot about is "number of shots fired". I've heard many discuss (I think Masaad too) how you DO NOT discuss, when inevitably asked by responding officers, how many shots were fired, even how many shots YOU fired, because in a situation like that you may THINK you know, but you likey wont be accurate. Of course if you even mistakenly give inaccurate information, that's going to look VERY bad on you! (If you "lie" about one thing... who says anything else you say is true! Even if you're not lying intentionally!) You cover the utmost basic things that the responding officer(s) will need to know, and let them know (like Masaad says) that they will have your cooperation (within 24 hours) after you've spoken to "council". I think that's one of the mistakes GZ made, talking to the police so much, like they were his "friend". Although, if I recall correctly they were actually still "on his side" (didn't and weren't going to arrest him since they felt it WAS s/d) and the only reason he got rang through the wringer was due to the "media trial" (read: "national outcry" for his arrest). I could be wrong about that, but you surely never want to say too much, especially before you've had an opportunity to speak to council first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted October 5, 2015 at 10:54 AM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 10:54 AM Asking for an ambulance or a medical evaluation at a hospital isn't an attempt to lie IMO. I don't believe there are many of us out there who can self diagnose a state of shock or panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted October 5, 2015 at 01:52 PM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 01:52 PM Three phone calls to make after a DGU:1. 911. Besides reporting the shooting ask for paramedics for the BG even if he's dead.2. Your lawyer or any legal aid service you subscribe or belong to.3. Immediate family member (wife/husband, parent, sibling). Remind them not to talk to anyone (cops, news, friends, neighbors, etc) and to not let the cops into your house without a warrant. Tell them to keep their FOID/CCL and photo ID on them so if the cops come to your house they are legally in possession of any firearms you may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitdog69 Posted October 5, 2015 at 07:02 PM Share Posted October 5, 2015 at 07:02 PM RUN!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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