jon70 Posted December 7, 2013 at 05:58 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 05:58 PM Did we really just pass a bill that will allow school administrator's to make a call and have anyone's foid revoked? And no legal repercussions for it as well? sb114? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il.bill Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:19 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:19 PM That is the way it looks to me http://ilga.gov/legi...p?Name=098-0600. 'School administrator' was eliminated / struck through in 8.1(d)(1), but then it is added in 8.1(d)(2) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms119 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:24 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:24 PM Well that's. A scary thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il.bill Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:24 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:24 PM Did your son or daughter 'cause a problem' for 'someone' by talking about a deer hunting experience while on school grounds? An anonymous 'school administrator' might well have you and/or your child "determined to pose a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others" and then gone are your rights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar8000 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:27 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:27 PM you got to be kidding me. So, any school admin can now file to revoke my FOID and there is not even a civil charges can be brought on them???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerxx Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:32 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:32 PM wow..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tms119 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:33 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:33 PM IF you're a well known hunter in your community or gun owner, better be careful if you ever decide to complain to the school board or principal, or deans, instructional leaders, etc.. It might come back and bite you in the butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon70 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:34 PM Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:34 PM According to the bill not even professionally. No day in court facing your accusers either. How can this possibility stand up in court? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:38 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:38 PM i hope Todd has a better take. this was already in the bill hb148 from what i was told. and i told my rep about it to. hope we can change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade13 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:38 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:38 PM I guess no more biting your poptart or pizza slice into the shape of a gun at school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon70 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:38 PM Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:38 PM How did this pass unnoticed? Why didn't we get alerted? We have shown we can make a difference or we would have a new York style carry law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colt-45 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:40 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:40 PM once they were struck out in section 1 they were removed totally. section 2 should of been edited also.hope your right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:41 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:41 PM welcome to il home of the lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT1 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:42 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:42 PM The fact that it is/was ever in any bill is flummoxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme333 Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:47 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:47 PM hope that idiot driver i yelled at in the parking lot aint a school administrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:55 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:55 PM Then FOID holders should be able to remove school admins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:58 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 06:58 PM Does sb0114 has to be signed by Jello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon70 Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:02 PM Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:02 PM I wonder if we are becoming the new Jim crow law state when it comes to firearms. More and more restrictions and fees until only the rich and political connected are actually allowed to own a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:14 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:14 PM · Hidden by Molly B., December 7, 2013 at 07:28 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., December 7, 2013 at 07:28 PM - No reason given Our Founding Fathers would have been shooting by now!!!!!! Link to comment
Googe1227 Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:17 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:17 PM This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cm.stites Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:19 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:19 PM Does sb0114 has to be signed by Jello?no its already been signed into law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:21 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:21 PM Thanks CM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:29 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:29 PM Anything else on this Molly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:31 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:31 PM Section 100. Short title. Sections 100 through 110 may be cited as the School Administrator Reporting of Mental Health Clear and Present Danger Determinations Law. Section 105. Duty of school administrator. It is the duty of the principal of a public elementary or secondary school, or his or her designee, and the chief administrative officer of a private elementary or secondary school or a public or private community college, college, or university, or his or her designee, to report to the Department of State Police when a student is determined to pose a clear and present danger to himself, herself, or to others, within 24 hours of the determination as provided in Section 6-103.3 of the Mental Health and Developmental Disabilities Code. "Clear and present danger" has the meaning as provided in paragraph (2) of the definition of "clear and present danger" in Section 1.1 of the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act. Section 110. Immunity. A principal or chief administrative officer, or the designee of a principal or chief administrative officer, making the determination and reporting under Section 105 of this Law shall not be held criminally, civilly, or professionally liable, except for willful or wanton misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:33 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:33 PM Thanks Molly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt555gs Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:33 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:33 PM This is really bad. License to take away constitutional rights with no responsibility. Just a whim. How did this get through? Gort. Klaatu barada nikto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:39 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:39 PM This was in the carry law. It is intended to reduce the chances of the young disturbed killers like the Colorado movie theater and Newtown school mass murderers from slipping through the cracks We objected to untrained school officials making this determination. However, the appeal/review process for revoked FOID cards is still the same and can't be denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsanc Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:40 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:40 PM Can anyone answer this, with the passing of sb114 how much training do I need if I am currently with the sheriff dept and have certs from the idoc . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon70 Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:41 PM Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:41 PM If you don't get your day in court facing your accusers how will you ever prove they willfully or wantonly abused that power? Bit of a catch 22 going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:44 PM Share Posted December 7, 2013 at 07:44 PM If you don't get your day in court facing your accusers how will you ever prove they willfully or wantonly abused that power? Bit of a catch 22 going on here. Where does it say someone doesn't get their day in court? WHere does it say a school administrator can revoke a FOID card. It simply says if a school official ascertains a student is a danger to themselves or others, they must report it, just like if they suspect child abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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