speedbump Posted December 11, 2016 at 08:23 AM Share Posted December 11, 2016 at 08:23 AM There is a prerequisite of Rifleman I, but this is a very comprehensive course (see description). There aren't many like it in the U.S. Most classes fill up 6-8 months in advance: http://www.valorridge.com/products/neighborhood-defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dx54r Posted December 11, 2016 at 11:16 AM Share Posted December 11, 2016 at 11:16 AM "Disclaimer: Valor Ridge does NOT recommend internal modifications to guns. Leave the internals of the gun the way they came from the factory. If you choose to modify your guns, you assume the liability of the weapon operating incorrectly. As such, you alone will be responsible in the event of catastrophic failure of the gun, including damage to the weapon and resulting property damage." Makes one wonder what kinds of abominations people have brought to the class only to have fall apart and sent back home in pieces. It certainly looks like it is a fun class and would be an interesting topic to learn about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLockedandLoaded Posted December 11, 2016 at 12:38 PM Share Posted December 11, 2016 at 12:38 PM I would love to take this and Rifleman 1, ut I feel like I would need to go buy a complete BCM or DD rifle first. I don't think Reid would approve of my homebuilt ARs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted December 11, 2016 at 05:14 PM Author Share Posted December 11, 2016 at 05:14 PM DX, whatever your mind can conjure ... has been attempted. gLocked, as long as it's safe ... and it works ... it's fine. Home built ARs go down nearly every class. Last month's victim was a just broken in Sig with an aftermarket Geiselle trigger. Sad to see. Simple, reliable, minimalist stuff works a very high percentage of the time, and with the protocols in place give ARs reliability factors equal to AKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gLockedandLoaded Posted December 12, 2016 at 08:10 PM Share Posted December 12, 2016 at 08:10 PM DX, whatever your mind can conjure ... has been attempted. gLocked, as long as it's safe ... and it works ... it's fine. Home built ARs go down nearly every class. Last month's victim was a just broken in Sig with an aftermarket Geiselle trigger. Sad to see. Simple, reliable, minimalist stuff works a very high percentage of the time, and with the protocols in place give ARs reliability factors equal to AKs. I've read a lot about gas blocks coming loose. I know my 18" build has a clamp on style, so it may not make it through heavy use (which isn't really its purpose). I would probably just use my 16" with a standard mid-length BCM upper. At least the gas block is pinned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted December 13, 2016 at 02:14 PM Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 at 02:14 PM As long as the clamp screws on your 18" are Loctited in place, it should hold up fine. The stoppage clearance drills are pretty revealing on loose parts. Just bring a spare rifle if you have it and you'll have no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted December 13, 2016 at 08:15 PM Share Posted December 13, 2016 at 08:15 PM Any certs from other instructors recognized in lieu of Rifleman I? I've attended quite a few Defensive Edge courses, and while my willingness to train is still as eager as when I started, my finances aren't. If not, that's fine. Your rodeo, your rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted December 13, 2016 at 11:52 PM Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 at 11:52 PM It's Reid's rodeo, he's strict about the prerequisite. We have a ton of military and LE guys come through, and they're pretty unanimous that even Rifleman I is a game changer, and far more comprehensive than any of the previous training they've had. Feel free to check Google Reviews for specifics. One of the best investments is the Small Arms Course, which is Pistolcraft I and Rifleman I back to back. It allows both weapon systems to get intensive range time, and cuts down on multiple trips. Because of the physical layout of the range, we can split the class in two groups to nearly double the curriculum content, and minimize down time. Plus, a lot of students feel Reid's classroom lectures are pretty much worth the class cost even though there is less than two hours of that per day. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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