thomas198500 Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:14 PM Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:14 PM I just moved and changed my DL, went online and did change of address with ISP, now am waiting for new card to be approved and mailed. Can I use my FOID with old address that does not match my DL in the meantime?
armadroid Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:31 PM Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:31 PM for ammo yes, for purchase depends...
anonymous too Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:41 PM Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:41 PM Should be fine. As long as one ID was current, sold guns at one of the more strict FFL's for 8 yrs that way. I just moved again too. 2 years ago one could obtain a FOID before a new DL, but that's changed along with the SoS office being even more strict with acceptable ID and proof of address. Your address for your DL and vehicle registrations can be changed very easily online. No registering or anything like the ISP's site and they send you conformation to your new address. I've got some CDL changes to do and need to get a birth certificate and new DOT physical before I can do that.
thomas198500 Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:42 PM Author Posted September 10, 2015 at 08:42 PM I just had a thought....I bet I can't use it as when I did address change on ISP site it put my status back to under review while address change is processed. Anyone know if that take another 30 days?
Rem870 Posted September 10, 2015 at 10:26 PM Posted September 10, 2015 at 10:26 PM I called ISP and was told I could still be in possession but couldn't purchase firearms.
Rem870 Posted September 10, 2015 at 10:28 PM Posted September 10, 2015 at 10:28 PM Also it took probably 5-6 weeks for my foid and 8 weeks for CCL.
thomas198500 Posted September 11, 2015 at 12:30 AM Author Posted September 11, 2015 at 12:30 AM I put my number in the foid check on the ISP website and it came back valid. Does that mean it should work?
kster Posted September 11, 2015 at 01:59 AM Posted September 11, 2015 at 01:59 AM once your new FOID is processed (not mailed), your old FOID # is invalidated and will not pass the FOID check on the ISP website. i know cause i was going to buy a gun but the CCW application was already processing when i wanted to purchase and the FOID check came back "could not validate"
thomas198500 Posted September 11, 2015 at 02:08 AM Author Posted September 11, 2015 at 02:08 AM Ahhh, ok so there will the few days when it's being mailed after approval again. If I were to use it right now it would come back ok though?
anonymous too Posted September 11, 2015 at 04:46 PM Posted September 11, 2015 at 04:46 PM Forgot about the new system. That's messed up for just an adress change. Wasn't like that before. One suddenly shouldn't be suddently unable to purchase a firearm for a few days or possibly longer if the post office messes up.
thomas198500 Posted September 11, 2015 at 06:29 PM Author Posted September 11, 2015 at 06:29 PM Ya I agree, it took over 2 weeks to get my original in the mail after approved. However, now we are attempting to apply logical thinking to the FOID system...
anonymous too Posted September 11, 2015 at 08:47 PM Posted September 11, 2015 at 08:47 PM I'm thinking about not even changing mine. Already changed my DL address online, but will get a new DL in a few weeks.
RoadyRunner Posted September 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM Posted September 11, 2015 at 10:29 PM You are legally required to change your FOID and CCL address within a certain timeframe of changing your address. You risk both being invalidated if you change your DL address and neglect changing these. The ISP periodically ping the two databases off each other - so its not a risk I would take.
Glock23 Posted September 11, 2015 at 10:56 PM Posted September 11, 2015 at 10:56 PM I'm thinking about not even changing mine. Already changed my DL address online, but will get a new DL in a few weeks. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/11/3046bc3fb65697f300928d3d875f9cae.jpg
anonymous too Posted September 12, 2015 at 07:11 PM Posted September 12, 2015 at 07:11 PM The above is from the CCL act. Here's the FOID act. I don't see any requirement and no requirement is mentioned on the ISP's website. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1657&ChapterID=39 The only thing in the FOID act is if one moves after an application has been sent. (a-15) If an applicant applying for a Firearm Owner's Identification Card moves from the residence address named in the application, he or she shall immediately notify in a form and manner prescribed by the Department of State Police of that change of address.
thomas198500 Posted September 15, 2015 at 02:15 PM Author Posted September 15, 2015 at 02:15 PM So, Rural King happens to have the gun I want to purchase on sale right now. The ISP site says my card is valid when I run it through the firearm transfer check. Can I go purchase this gun at Rural King with my old address FOID and new address DL? If so, what address do I put down on the form?
anonymous too Posted September 15, 2015 at 05:36 PM Posted September 15, 2015 at 05:36 PM One always could. Just tell them when you hand them your ID's that the DL is your current address and that's the one you use. The ATF only cares that you have an ID with a current address.
Glock23 Posted September 15, 2015 at 05:46 PM Posted September 15, 2015 at 05:46 PM ^^ This ^^ The address on my FOID has been incorrect since 2012.
thomas198500 Posted September 15, 2015 at 06:21 PM Author Posted September 15, 2015 at 06:21 PM Good deal. I am going shopping after work then!
anonymous too Posted September 22, 2015 at 01:39 AM Posted September 22, 2015 at 01:39 AM So there was absolutely no problem with your FOID having the wrong address when making your purchase, correct?
kwc Posted September 22, 2015 at 02:05 AM Posted September 22, 2015 at 02:05 AM (edited) Here's the FOID act. I don't see any requirement and no requirement is mentioned on the ISP's website. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1657&ChapterID=39 The only thing in the FOID act is if one moves after an application has been sent. Some of you are making me really nervous. You might want to read the FOID Act again. Section 13.2 of the Act requires a FOID holder to notify the ISP of a change in his or her address. "It is the obligation of the holder of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card to notify the Department of State Police of any address change since the issuance of the Firearm Owner's Identification Card. Whenever any person moves from the residence address named on his or her card, the person shall within 21 calendar days thereafter notify in a form and manner prescribed by the Department of his or her old and new residence addresses and the card number held by him or her. " Unless otherwise specified in the Act, according to Section 14(e), the default sentence for a violation of the FOID Act is a Class A Misdemeanor, and I believe this (likely) applies here: (e) Except as provided by Section 6.1 of this Act, any other violation of this Act is a Class A misdemeanor. I haven't personally heard of anyone being prosecuted for this, and doubt ISP would pursue a Misdemeanor A for failing to update an address. Nevertheless, the requirement to do so is undeniably clear. Edited September 22, 2015 at 02:18 AM by kwc
anonymous too Posted September 22, 2015 at 03:21 PM Posted September 22, 2015 at 03:21 PM Didn't read far enough down in the 13.2 paragraph. The ISP's website says this: How do I change my name or address on the FOID Card? FOID card holders may request a name or address change to their FOID card by completing the request through the ISP website at www.isp.state.il.us. and clicking on the "FIREARM SERVICES" button under Agency Features, then under FOID card, click Enter. Once registered, you will select "NAME/ADDRESS CHANGE." Your Illinois Driver's License or State Identification Card must match the name and address on your FOID card. You will receive a new card with the modified information. You will retain your current FOID card number and expiration date. You may also request a name/address change by calling 217/782-7980 for the call-in alternative application.The fee for the name or address change is $5. Saying one "may request" to saying "must match" is kind of confusing, but then it's the ISP. Where in the act does it say your FOID must match your DL? In their old system, one could just submit an address change, no registration, no fee just like the Sec. of State allows one to do with their DL and registrations. Only CDL holders must obtain a corrected DL in a specified time frame.
kwc Posted September 22, 2015 at 03:36 PM Posted September 22, 2015 at 03:36 PM (edited) Where in the act does it say your FOID must match your DL? I don't believe the FOID Act explicitly states that. However, when you update your address online, AFAIK the web-based system imposes this restriction. Edited September 22, 2015 at 03:36 PM by kwc
anonymous too Posted October 7, 2015 at 07:31 PM Posted October 7, 2015 at 07:31 PM There are several threads on this issue now. In some instances it sounds like the ISP is making things up depending on who you get on the phone. All I can say is the ISP's system sucks. All they do is make things more complicated and make things up out of the blue it seems. The law says you're only required to "request" an address change. It used to be free and simple. How can the Sec. of state do basically the same thing with millions of DL's and registrations in a much simplier way? It boggles the mind.
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